Part of masters 30% off lighting sale. Should be bright!
Halogen Floodlights 1000w Work Lamp $24.49 @ Masters
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Yes led would be nice, but none anywhere near this brightness or price that I could see.
Yes these things get bloody hot, searingly, and will heat a room if closed. As such I can also imagine them chewing a serious amount of electricity. Might be good for someone who rarely uses it but if you used it all the time I would recommend LED
As such I can also imagine them chewing a serious amount of electricity.
You mean like 1000W or 10c per hour based on ~25c kWh.
Yes these things get bloody hot, searingly, and will heat a room if closed
Which is often useful for drying paint especially when it's colder.
Might be good for someone who rarely uses it but if you used it all the time I would recommend LED
Why? If you use it all the time often the halogen will be better as it's better at reproducing colour and offers great light distribution whereas the LED has poor reproduction of colour and not that great a light distribution. People that use these all the time don't have to worry so much about power as they don't pay for it and the running costs are around 10c per hour which is absolutely nothing compared to the cost of an hours labour.
At the 38.50 that @jaj024 quoted below, I would be buying those very time:
You don't have to worry about heat, working in a hot environment or burning yourself on it moving the light
The bulbs last a lot longer, and so the extra cost will pay for itself in time, not to mention that halogen bulbs don't like to be bumped when hot increasing the chance that the bulb won't see out its usual life in a work situation
Some people actually think efficiency is a virtue, and therefore would want something that uses less power regardless of who is paying for it
This isn't an IPS monitor and people aren't painting murals, so I doubt colour reproduction is at the top of anyone's list, and I find the halogen lights overly warm anyway. Having said that there's 1000 uses for light so I am not presuming I am going to cover all bases
I don't see why you would assume that the light distribution of the LED would be poorer, if it's well made it will be fine
You don't have to worry about heat, working in a hot environment or burning yourself on it moving the light
Are you a baby? No so why are you worried about burning yourself when moving the light. Sheesh.
The bulbs last a lot longer, and so the extra cost will pay for itself in time, not to mention that halogen bulbs don't like to be bumped when hot increasing the chance that the bulb won't see out its usual life in a work situation
The LED units don't have "bulbs" and they are prone to early failure which requires complete replacement of the whole unit or just the side.
Some people actually think efficiency is a virtue, and therefore would want something that uses less power regardless of who is paying for it
This is an absurd argument, how long is the LED going to last compared to the Halogen? What extra energy goes into making the Halogen? Is the heat given off the Halogen usable? I have a 20 year old Halogen unit here that still works, the LED units won't be working in 5 years time.
This isn't an IPS monitor and people aren't painting murals, so I doubt colour reproduction is at the top of anyone's list, and I find the halogen lights overly warm anyway. Having said that there's 1000 uses for light so I am not presuming I am going to cover all bases
If you're painting colour reproduction is important.
I don't see why you would assume that the light distribution of the LED would be poorer, if it's well made it will be fine
The light distribution is rubbish on these LED units. It has nothing to do with how it's made, look at the photo to see how the light distribution works.
You mean like 1000W or 10c per hour based on ~25c kWh.
Excuse me, 1000w x 1h = 1 kwh, thus costs you 25c if it's charged at 25c/ kwh.
@Maverick-au: firstly, I am not bringing myself down to the level of someone who calls people names. On top of that, your narrow view means that you are relegatimg everyone in the world who's had an accident while working to an idiot or a baby. Why do we bother with OH&S? Because it works, telling people they are babies doesn't. Why have ABS on your car?
Secondly there are so many assumptions you are making. The LED unit is rated at 30000hrs. In my experience with halogen lamps I have had one blow after as little as 60hrs. Again you are assuming the LED is not well made and prone to some other failure, which we just don't know, and it's a generally accepted fact that of the commonly used lights today LED lasts the longest by far. The light distribution is again another assumption, I would prefer to hear from someone who owned it than from someone who looked at a pic online and then made some hypothesis. And it would have everything to do with how it's made, people could make it however they wanted. And if you are painting single colours you just need to see what you are doing, you already picked your colour and had it mixed at the shop, unless you are some painter who mixes on the fly or painting murals.
On top of that, your narrow view means that you are relegatimg everyone in the world who's had an accident while working to an idiot or a baby. Why do we bother with OH&S? Because it works, telling people they are babies doesn't. Why have ABS on your car?
If you touch something that is hot you are going to get burnt. OH&S is over the top in this country and the reason why everything here is so expensive like road works. ABS has nothing to do with idiots burning themselves on a hot light.
The LED unit is rated at 30000hrs.
Sure it is and it will never last that long.
In my experience with halogen lamps I have had one blow after as little as 60hrs.
Wow, a poorly fitted halogen lamp will fail early. Again if idiots fit things incorrectly they will fail. I've had LED's fail after a few hours use, does this mean all LED's fail after a few hours?
Again you are assuming the LED is not well made and prone to some other failure, which we just don't know, and it's a generally accepted fact that of the commonly used lights today LED lasts the longest by far.
Actually halogen downlights have been proven to last the longest, LED lights suffer from many issues including poor construction, heat buildup, electronics issues, dimmer issues etc all causing early failures. LEDs can last longer but there are so many factors that can affect this.
The light distribution is again another assumption, I would prefer to hear from someone who owned it than from someone who looked at a pic online and then made some hypothesis. And it would have everything to do with how it's made, people could make it however they wanted.
I have the same style fittings for another use and the light spread is poor and so is the light output so they're sitting in the garage. These are not suitable for painting.
And if you are painting single colours you just need to see what you are doing, you already picked your colour and had it mixed at the shop, unless you are some painter who mixes on the fly or painting murals.
And how do you see where you have already painted when you're applying the second coat? With the LED light it's not powerful enough and it's hard to pick up the difference between fresh paint and existing paint because of it's poor CRI and low output. But by all means make your life difficult and choose a light that is poorly suited to the purpose.
Your comparison of a mismatched LED and a halogen worklight that is at least ten times more powerful and suited to the task is utterly pointless and misleading. Especially when it's something that many people will only use in the tens of hours each year.
@Maverick-au: nearly everything you have said assumes that this light is poorly made, people are idiots, or compares this light to your general experience. Stick to the facts, and you have very littleleft to say.
@Maverick-au: nearly everything you have said assumes that this light is poorly made, people are idiots, or compares this light to your general experience. Stick to the facts, and you have very littleleft to say.
I have stuck to the facts, you should try it as well. It's also a fact that if someone touches a hot halogen light despite there being a guard in place they are an idiot.
You are comparing a 20W LED to a 500W Halogen, they are not comparable.
Light output
20W LED = 800-1200 Lumens
500W Halogen = 10000+ LumensCRI
20W LED = 70-80 CRI
500W Halogen = 90-98 CRIBulb replacement
20W LED = Not possible
500W Halogen = $2
LED Version $38.50 similar to bunnings selling for $69 https://www.masters.com.au/product/101605851/cdb-goldair-tra…
only problem is the masters unit colour temp is 4500k - the bunnings is around 6000K.
Better tint any ways 6000k is way to cool for any thing other then in a torch. Also the LED version is no where near as powerful 2400 lumen total the halogen should be about 16000 lumen total!
For a comparable amount of light you would need around 60-100 watt LED cob depending on efficiency…
Huh, these always used to be $29 at Bunnings. Now they're $39. Don't know if this is a much of a bargain…
do they have the led versions like Bunnings …. 1000w halogen might be an issue on a summers evening but great in winter.