Saw this on Facebook. Good for those that live near Victoria Point in Brisbane. Seems like there's still a fair bit left in the fridge at time the photo was taken.
Mod: This video shows the 3L milk bottles being sold for $0.49 at a Sydney store
Woolworths Select Lite Milk 2L for 50c, 3L for 49c at Selected Woolworths Stores (QLD/NSW, Others?)
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What the??? I never used profanities??
It was a variant of the F word, but spelt "FAR" then a "K" after it.
How is that profanity?Man, political correctness has gone crazy at OzBargain.
Next thing you know "Dang" sounds too much like "Damn" and all hell breaks loose ;).
oh, and @Newdad….
Of course they are forced to. The duopoly held by the big two force them to sell in their market. They can't exactly set up a milk shop and try to compete at every shopping centre.
Regardless of how you spelt it, what other word were you trying to convey but the profanity?
omg. So stone me and protect the innocents from my pretend swearing!
This world is going to shit.
[@UFO](/comment/372709 way to4/redir):
Way to overreact, dude. All they did was mask your poorly disguised swearing.
Let them toss it out. They'll realise then they need to order less. Then they will pay the farmers a decent price because they are losing market share
I mean yes support local farmers, but wasting food is the issue on the other side of the spectrum. Someone buy them and donate it to homeless food drives, or better still ask the managers to do it.
Use by date on the Milk in the picture is 26 May so guessing reduced to clear as they can't sell it after today
You beat me to it. Don't worry, cheap laxative in a few days.
Ummm, besides all the debate about the ethics of buying this milk. If you zoom in, the milk expires today. So even though its 75% off, its pretty much past its expiry/BB date.
50C for 2 litres of water? no thanks
Cheaper than bottled water.
Cows milk is for baby cows.
No other animal drinks infant milk (either of it's own species or that of another) in adulthood.Drink rice, almond or soy milk to wet your weet bix.
No other animal drinks infant milk (either of it's own species or that of another) in adulthood.
No other animal has developed calculators, oven crust pizzas or apostrophes. What's your point?
Point is dairy farmers rape cows and crush male calves, just so you can have white water on your breakfast.
Love the fact people say they "Love animals" yet buy products that harm them.
what a stupidly ignorant and moronic statement. you really have no clue how the dairy industry works apart from some sh!t you've glanced at on the internet without any sort of research into the background of that crap.
Really? What part have I got wrong?
They manually inseminate cows to get them pregnant (without consent, therefore rape)
When a calf is born, after 2 days they are removed and fed cheap formula, while the mother produces milk for you instead.
Male calves are killed, as they are of no use - look up Bobby Calves.I think it's you who is the ignorant one, clearly no grasp of reality. Or not wanting to hear the truth.
dairy farmers rape cows
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You, Sir, are the reason why marijuana shouldn't be legalised.
If sticking your arm inside a cow's vagina and injecting bull semen isn't rape, then tell me what is?
If forcefully sterilising domesticated dogs and cats isn't sexual assault, please tell me what is.
Point is dairy farmers rape cows and crush male calves
my father-in-law is a 3rd generation dairy farmer (well until 6 years ago). I've milked his herd, looked after it, given them inoculations, watched them give birth, helped wean calves, moved bulls into pasture, etc.
you do know that cows (animals) do have breeding cycles? just like women (animals). and that when a boy cow (actually called a bull) really loves a girl cow (called a cow) they get very close and after about 9 months a calf is born.
It is uncommon to manually inseminate dairy cows. manual insemination is usually done for selective breeding.
after a calf is born it is kept with the cow. usually for 6-9 months until it is "independent". the calves are usually kept until 12 months and then the bulls are sold to market (unless one or two show amazing traits for future breeding). The heifers are usually kept to breed once they reach at least 2 years of age.
@phunkyfeelone: >If sticking your arm inside a cow's vagina and injecting bull semen isn't rape, then tell me what is?
is (profanity) considered a profanity?
edit: wow, it is.
You refer to small family dairies.
I'm referring to mass-production dairies that produce commercial milk.A little research on your behalf would go a looooong way.
@phunkyfeelone: I know. I was testing "the V word" myself. I think we are adult enough to use a word found in the dictionary.
@phunkyfeelone: even mass-production dairies don't use wide spread artificial insemination. certainly on a small scale or where bulls have failed to impregnate cows repeatedly.
Dude, give it up already. You lost any credibility you might have had about animal products when you post (and therefore tacitly endorse) deals from McDonalds
Read this if you want to understand the real story as to why the dairy farmers are in the bind they're in at the moment. Not the waleed ali tv week glossy magazine version (and i'm as surprised as anyone that news.com.au have a real news story on their website instead of kardashian dribble)
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/any-support-i…
Waleed Aly is the biggest attention-seeking wh—e on national TV. That chap has given himself some sort of an intangible entitlement to have a voice in anything and everything. He really needs to stop interfering in every single issue that arises in the public realm and needs to stop pushing his own agendas across to everyone and respect the fact that not everyone does (nor will) support his views all the time, rather than attacking anyone who puts forward a view that is opposite to his perspective.
Why? How opinions are usually very intelligent. Also, it's kind of hours job as well.
Or do you have a problem with it cause he's brown?
@brentsbits
Serious?
Waleed is very much the poster boy for the regressive left wing crowd and the likes of Fairfax and Guardian.Watch him interview people with opposing views as him and it'll be obvious that he is super arrogant and rude against them. He just wants to mock people on live TV and not give them a right of reply to his loaded questions.
The hallmark of a respectable presenter is that they engage opposing views in a civilised manner.
Dude look at the expiry date
Farmers who can't produce milk at a competitive cost should shut their farms - sell the real estate for millions (Kiama) or switch to beef production (Rump steak retailing for $20kg).
Sick of taxpayers footing the bill for moron farmers who have no clue how to run a business.
No they're quite clever. When they're making money, they keep it, when they're losing money, you pay them - it's an awesome business model with tax benefits only Google & Apple can dream of.
I really don't understand the predicament. So if the processors pay 37 cents now, is the cost of production really 42-45 cents per litre? If costs are more likely 25 cents per litre (equipment, plant, feed) then put 12 cents for labour and wages. Take an average herd size of 120 and the average amount produced per cow (30 litres) each day then per week you would have raw labour income of .12 x 30 x 120 = $432 per day. I feel we are being manipulated by our farmers into subsiding them their lifestyles on the farm as long as they are earning take home of $45,000 to cover a mortgage (much cheaper on country but now even rural land is becoming more premium) and basic necessities I don't see why most are complaining. On a 120 herd farm you may have to employ two workers full time but that is entirely doable with net farm labour income of over $160,000 (what you would earn if you were making a margin of 12 cents per litre on milk). I'm not professing a grand amount of knowledge on the subject but there does seem to be sweeping generalisations on the 'cost of production' and imagine that each farmer's scenario is different. If you just have a hobby farm with 10-20 cows you probably shouldn't be solely reliant on milk income in the first place… I hope the $1 milk remains, I thought Coles and the like were making loss on milk and bread etc. as these were loss-leading items in supermarkets in any case. If anyone is gouging it's the processors but they have always been the ones in control (apart from local coops). Keep buying the $1 milk!
This is an interesting article and efficient farmers should be not paying more than $16 per 100 kilos of milk produced (ie. 16 cents a litre for feed). Considering feed makes up 50-60 percent of non-labour costs I believe more realistic estimates would be non-labour 25 cents with 12 cents for labour holds up (not 42 cents for non-labour production and nothing for wages as some farmers would have you believe). Of course in times of drought and unfavourable conditions farmers want a buffer… But is it up to the government to provide more than assistance/relief packages? Farms should not be state owned, however more should be done to prevent foreign ownership as well. http://www.extension.umn.edu/agriculture/dairy/feed-and-nutr…
Everyone's struggling to get by. Just be thankful you aren't in Sydney paying exorbitant rents while dealing with horrible state government controlled councils destroying roads and parks building stupid light rails.
Sorry I just the calc converted pounds to kilos wrong. In that case 10% of cost of milk is going towards grain which farmer's have to bear. It does seem a bit unsustainable, maybe the processors should do more to help out (or supermarkets) in helping pay supply of grain.
There's almost no viable scenario where a farmer could milk 120 cows and hire two staff - the economics just aren't there to support it. Also, the article you linked to has very little relevance to the Australian dairy industry. Yes, there are cows but cattle in Minnesota live within feedlot barns rather than pasture, and the US government subsidises the price of milk to give their farmers a competitive advantaged in the global dairy export market.
Source: grew up on a Victorian dairy farm
I hope they are donating all the milk past its SELL BY date (not used by). Plenty of hungry tummies in Australia.
Buying branded milk will not guarantee the farmers a better return, there are too many sticky fingers along the way.
The only way to fix this whole thing is for the govt to step in and set a minimum gate price for dairy products.It's a classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If the Government steps in and implements minimum pricing, processors and retailers will cry out that costs are no longer unsustainable and will inevitably pass this cost onto consumers.
If the Government doesn't step in (and I don't think they should), the farmers will be the only ones to whinge about this issue.
From what I understand, farmers are adults. As such, the Government shouldn't act as Mummy and Daddy here. The farmers created this mess by letting massive conglomerates boss them around (ie. seeking themselves out).
They created the mess. They should clean it up.
If the farmers cannot deal with the free dairy market in Australia, perhaps they should reconsider their career choices and choose a more viable alternative to make a living.
""processors and retailers will cry out that costs are no longer unsustainable and will inevitably pass this cost onto consumers.""
If that is what needs to happen to keep our (Australian owned) dairy operators in a worthwhile business then no problem. I for one would not mind paying more but only if the sticky fingers of the retailers and processors are kept out of the honey pot.
I personally know of a retired dairy farmer and their working life would have to be one of the lowest paid for the hours they work. It is time for this to stop and enable them the right to a proper return for their product and labour.On the other side of all this… apparently a lot of our milk is exported and our low exchange rate is killing their market there too, so it is not all about what you see on the supermarket shelves.
Definitely time for the govt to step in… but not with a typical Labor type policy (please!!).
It's less that buying those specific brands will do the farmers more good, in the immediate sense.
It's more that people not buying the dollar milk tells the supermarkets that the public won't support a business model that doesn't allow people to earn a living from what they do.
If people talk with their wallets long enough and show that they are willing to pay more if it means a fair go etc. then eventually the dollar milk will start to cost them too much in wastage and they will have to re-evaluate the suppliers they do business with, causing the suppliers to change their business practices which will then follow on to the farmers.
That's the theory anyway. I hope it works.
The Checkout did a video on supermarket milk a couple of years ago. Seems relevant now… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIOvRO8k7uI
Haha if we really wanted to help the farmers out we'd just continue with our normal milk buying patterns.
Buying branded Australian farmers milk will create demand, that demand isn't sustainable. Oversupply will occur and then we'll have the same problem again.No one bought cars when the automotive industry was on its way down, no one buys shares when a company is declining to its death.
by buying milk, you're not helping farmers be cost efficient. Businesses need to adapt to cost efficiencySo your argument is that not buying a person's product helps their business.
What kind of logic is that?just like any business, they have to find some cost efficiency somewhere. If you're not making enough profit to sustain your business, off you go
Public outcry isn't going to help them.
+how does buying Australian farmers milk brands help them? They're not getting any more for $$ per litre
In fact we're just lining the profits of the middlemanThat's being a bit obtuse.
The problem with what's going on is the prevalence of dollar milk etc. that puts price pressure on the milk buyers which in turn (with their duopoly and market control) means that they can just say they are paying less for the milk from the farmers. Less than it costs to produce.
By not purchasing the store brand milk, it's not about creating demand for other brands, it's about the public showing that they won't support business practices that are unfair on the farmers. Apparently a factory was built specially for handling the dollar milk processing and even though it could be easily repurposed it will still be wasted money on their part.
If the public shows it won't support those practices by specficially boycotting the products that are a causative factor for the problem, it indicates that the public is willing to pay a higher price if it means a fair go for farmers. It's not a matter of paying twice as much or whatever, it's about the farmers being able to earn a living. It's a protesting action to get a message across, rather than a specific market driven action to drive a particular supplier out of business (which we know isn't going to happen).
I took coco1458's comment to mean that people should continue buying supermarket branded milk, and that switching to Paul's, Pura, etc isn't going to help their businesses.
That doesn't makes sense to me.
I'm not 100% sure that what I said is the case but I'm pretty sure that's the theory behind it and hopefully that makes more sense.
coco 1458 "" Businesses need to adapt to cost efficiency ""
How would you suggest that to a dairy farmer? Get cows with more teats?
Seriously … I believe the govt needs to step into this because leaving the status quo to sort itself out will only result in the loss of another resource. One that has suffered for far too long.
Let the market decides, not the gov which normally makes an even worse mess.
It's over supply, so unless you and others drink a lot more, the problem stays the same!
The only way is to reduce production one way or the other. Same as current world crude oil suplyLearn some economics not good will thinking, you sound like Green or maybe ALP
And what's wrong with sounding like the greens? Having a social conscience?
Or should we be like the LNP, tripling the deficit and then giving tax cuts to those who don't need them at the expense of those who do?
Besides, stepping in and belong out companies is right up the LNPs alley.
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No-one's forcing the farmers to sell to Coles and Woolies. They have lots of other options such as selling direct to the public, exporting it, selling via small independent retailers, selling it to manufacturers for cheese, yoghurt, icecream etc, switching to a crop or even getting out of farming altogether.
If you still want to give a charitable donation to dairy farmers, that's your prerogative. However, there's more efficient ways of doing it than buying brand name milk where the supermarket, transport company, processor etc all take a cut of the retail price premium.