New Car - Doubts on Driveaway price and Trade-in value

Hello fellow OZBs

I am in the market for a new car and thought of using the current Financial year sale that gives extra warranty, price cut etc.

I haven’t bought a brand new car till now. My current one is a Corolla Sport bought 3 years ago when it was 1.5 years old and I paid around $15.5K for it (35,000KM). It drives well and has absolutely no problem at all. Recently I started having sciatica pain problem (nerve compression due to long sitting positon at office and some by birth ‘manufacturing problem’ :) ) and this is kind of killing me. I was thinking if I could switch to a SUV to get a higher sitting and more natural chair like position than the cramped bucket seat.

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I am looking for a medium car (30-35K max) and so far short listed (since the pain started , I drive around 5-6K max/year)

1) Honda HRV

2) Suzuki Vitara Turbo (small but ideal for city. In line with Corolla)

3) Kia Sportage (my son wants this :) )

4) Subaru Forrester ( AWD, nice to have but $$$$)

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I want to sell my current Corolla and buy new one. I was looking at the carsales.com.au and found the DriveAway price. This is where my confusion is

1) I saw on OZB posts that we can haggle down 10-20% price. Is it on the manufactures recommended price? Or can I bargain (yes, we are OZBs) still 10% on the carsales.com.au price, which is said as ‘On Special’?

2) Suzuki Vitara Turbo seems a good option with currently promoted 29,990 driveaway. Has anybody bought one recently? Can you please give some comments on this? Can I still bargain on this and what would be the best price I can offer (I heard new models are like buy-if-u-want. User ‘Spackbase’, where r u mate? Help me…). Or I can wait until the year-end if that will help me as I don’t drive much nowadays and will roll with Corolla until then.

3) Is trade-in a good option? Or sell to 3rd party used-car agents? Private seller option is hard as can do it only on Sat/Sun.

4) Any other suggestions on the list of car. And suggestions on negotiating the price please.

5) Anyone suffer from sciatica pain? How do you get around it while driving? Used cushions, lumber support, went for Chiro, stretching etc but without much success.

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As always - A big Thank U

Comments

  • +3

    1) I saw on OZB posts that we can haggle down 10-20% price. Is it on the manufactures recommended price? Or can I bargain (yes, we are OZBs) still 10% on the carsales.com.au price, which is said as ‘On Special’?

    Some RRPs are highly inflated, some aren't. Have to be aware that RRP doesn't necessarily mean the current sale price. Sale price could be easy 20% off RRP, if not more in some cases. Best bet is normally to take the cheapest advertised price on Carsales as your benchmark for a negotiated price. That dealer will have chopped out any possible profit, to get your attention on Carsales (lets face it, most people search price: high to low)

    2) Suzuki Vitara Turbo seems a good option with currently promoted 29,990 driveaway. Has anybody bought one recently? Can you please give some comments on this? Can I still bargain on this and what would be the best price I can offer (I heard new models are like buy-if-u-want. User ‘Spackbase’, where r u mate? Help me…). Or I can wait until the year-end if that will help me as I don’t drive much nowadays and will roll with Corolla until then.

    Oh hai!
    On the $29,990 price (for white, $475 more for silver/black/grey, $995 more for red/orange/ivory/turquoise), there's probably about $1500 left to work with. Suzuki has a sale starting Monday, bonuses from that will help you achieve that sort of discount. Obviously I'm biased, but I do love the car. If you don't need an SUV any bigger than that, I don't know what areas the Vitara wouldn't win against the competition in it's price range.

    3) Is trade-in a good option? Or sell to 3rd party used-car agents? Private seller option is hard as can do it only on Sat/Sun.

    Private sell is always the best option for your money. Get a trade-in quote from the dealer, advertise it privately for $500-$1000 more, it'll be gone by the end of the weekend. And the extra money will be a big help. Some dealers might even let you have a loan car while you wait for the new car (if you have to wait)

    4) Any other suggestions on the list of car. And suggestions on negotiating the price please.

    Know what car you want before you negotiate. Don't still be looking at other options if you want the dealer to take you seriously. If they know you've narrowed it down to that 1 car, they know you're serious, and that they can earn your business. They know that you're not going to turn around and say 'well I still need to look at Car 'Y' ", you're there to buy a car if the price is right.
    Another thing that can help with negotiation. It's ruthless but we have no way of proving otherwise a lot of the time… Say you've been offered 'X' deal on the car from another dealer, ask if they can match it or slightly better it, as you're the closer dealer and I want to buy from you. Just don't be stupid with the price, we'll call your bluff if it's an absolute negative!

    • Thanks mate. That was a fantastic piece of advice. I am also kind of biased towards Vitara. I test drove the non-turbo and was waiting for the Turbo to hit the market. I will wait for Monday and see what sale offers. Cheers mate.

      • Sale on the Turbo is just $400 towards accessories, of which the dealer has to cover half.

  • +3

    I used to have sciatic pain from sitting in an office. the simple and cheap answer (for me , I don't know the full extent of your medical/physical condition) was to start using the stairs at work, doing yoga for half an hour daily(just infront of the tv), stretching. I've never had the pain since and now am very physically active (swim 3 times a week, cycle 2 or 3 times).

    I found correcting the problem itself was better than trying to live with it.

    • Thanks. I gave a try with Yoga stretching and some cushions but didn't help much. Even went for Osteopathy. Recently bought a cushions from ALDI (2 weeks ago) and it seems good. I can see some improvement while sitting in the office.

    • Had a similar problem years ago, worked out for me it was from sitting on my wallet in the back pocket. Started carrying it in my side pocket and after a few months pain was gone.

  • Go the HR-V, this car is beautiful.

    You will pick up girls with it.

    • +1

      Thanks…

      lol…. 41 now. Not sure girls would still be interested :) HR-V VTi-L is the best bet in that HRV series. The CVT seems a bit sluggish though and vitara excels there/

  • It's the driveaway price minus 20%
    If they say no walk away
    They normally insult you try to make you feel bad tell you your crazy ask how you came with that figure we would be losing money etc.
    Then go to next dealer offer 18% off driveaway then walkaway
    Eventually you will get someone who bites and won't let you.
    They will tell you everything they can to get you to pay more. Don't let them get to you,
    Your the one with the money.
    The Japanese financial year ends in 31 March
    Sell the car privately and get your own finance for new car, the dealer will make money off you here.
    The company I work for has a fleet of Corollas and several us have bad backs, after driving them, I think these cars are designed for smaller Japanese ladies. I use a foam cushion off eBay I think the hardness of the seat and the vibration has something to do with lower back injuries.

    • It's the driveaway price minus 20%

      Jees I wish we made that sort of profit on every new car sold at advertised price!

      • It's obviously not minus 20% on all cars, you said yourself it can be, but you need to start somewhere, to try to find the figure.

        • +2

          The problem behind that, is its like the other guy trying to buy private seller cars for $500 over trade-in price. Without being within a reasonable ballpark to begin negotiations, you'll get laughed out of the establishment. There won't be a counter-offer if you're too far away. Negotiation won't begin, it will just stop.

          Some examples:
          1) over Christmas, Holden Colorado was about $36,990 drive away, free auto. Around that sorta price anyway. There was about $600-$700 profit in the car. Couldn't even throw in a tow bar. 20% discount would be less than $30k. You'd just get laughed at!

          2) around the same time, Holden Cruze was advertised at $19,990 drive away. This actually represented a loss for the dealership. We were eating further into it just to throw in floor mats. You really think we'd look seriously at an offer of $16k? Not on your life lol

          3) earlier I posted about margin in the Suzuki Vitara Turbo being around $2k. That's 10%. Certainly not 20%

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