Gaming PC Suggestions - Non OC

Apologies for the long post

Primary purpose:
Gaming with skype at same time. Want to be able to play all the top games on decent settings. Only have one 1080p monitor at the moment but will upgrade to 2 monitors in the near future. Does not need to be 4k compatible. Some games include: Black Ops III, The Division, CS GO, New Hitman, The Witcher 3, Overwatch, WoW, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Mass Effect Andromeda. Steam in home streaming.

Budget:
Preferred: $circa 1900 Maximum: $circa 2000

Monitor(s):
Currently have a cheapy Samsung SyncMaster BX2450 Will be upgrading to two new monitors in the near future.

OS required?:
No

Peripherals required:
Everything other than OS and peripherals

Re-using parts?
Just monitor, logitech gaming keyboard and G502 or G300 logitech mouse depending on games

Overclocking?
Short story. Not required anymore. You guys have talked me out of it

Aesthetics/preferences?
Don't need any special lights, windows, colours, etc. Would like a hot swappable sata port at the top like some people have. Easy to install parts and run cables neatly. Or I can utilise steam in home streaming for compatible games. Can easily fit GPU current and possible next one due soon

Extra Information:

I have already done a build for you guys to play around with.

NB i've been recommended by a friend that the ASUS and MSI mobo's are better since their BIOS is more robust so that is why both builds feature ASUS mobo.

Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB as these are the most recommended. Toshiba 2TB HDD

The GPU and Case is a placeholder of max budget until the new GPUs come out if I go with the new ones.

Would prefer to source from umart or MSY if the price differential isnt too great.

What else can I include to help tailor make the most appropriate build? Lastly thanks for taking the time to help out.

OC Build:
N/A

NON OC BUILD:
PCPartPicker part list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/LXydNG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/LXydNG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($312.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($165.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($98.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($126.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card ($475.00 @ IJK)
Case: Thermaltake Chaser A71 ATX Full Tower Case ($199.00 @ Umart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1602.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-11 22:21 AEST+1000

Comments

  • +1

    Overclocking used to good. Nowadays it is overrated. I would use the extra saved by going down the non-K i5 route and spend it on better graphics, or better LCD panels. If you don't already own 120hz panels… it's worth checking out!

    In the days of yore when any Intel processor could be OC'ed, it was worth the effort of OCing because you didn't have to buy any special motherboards or processors to do it — all you did was just tweak the BIOS and made sure you had proper cooling.

    Now, you need pay extra for a i5- or i7-K unlocked processor and a motherboard with the right Z1 chipset to OC, both of which represents an extra $80~100 in HW costs.

    Basically, Overclocking got nerfed by Intel…. Intel saw an opportunity to make more money by making sure that overclockers would buy the expensive top end chips and not the cheaper ones and making them run faster.

    You can't go wrong with better graphics cards. Remember, if you want nicer looking games, and better, more displays with 120hz and massive DPI resolutions, or if you want to try Virtual Reality headsets in the future, it all boils down to the GPU. Spend the extra on a better GPU or upgrade your displays.

    • Thanks, fixed my OP. What do you think now.

    • Overclocking used to good. Nowadays it is overrated.

      ^This…sooo much this! :)

      The real world performance benefits of overclocking have become so eroded that it's basically just marketing, misconception & e-peen for overclockers now! :'(

      • +1

        Thank you for helping me make up my mind, while I would love to tinker, I believe I won't have the time and as you said no great performance benefits.

  • You appear to have 2x cpu coolers under your "OC" build. I haven't done the maths but if $2024 is accurate then it'd become $1700 vs $1900 instead.

    Some games benefit quite a lot from OCing. witcher 3 and gta5 come to mind where you can get +10fps (i.e. 40-50 to 50-60 which is significant) going from stock 3.9 to 4.5ghz without any voltage increase at all. The majority of games, however, would see <5% FPS benefit.

    Putting $200 extra into your GPU would get you something like +20% FPS across the board and IMO much more worthwhile. Though if you've got money then why not both? :D

    • I don't have more lol. So I went with non oc. Fixed my OP. What do you think now.

      ps. Thanks for pointing out the two coolers.

      • No worries!

        One suggestion - from what I've read, Sapphire are the brand to go with for the r9 390.

        One sort-of suggestion: If you still want to consider OCing down the road, see if you can get a mobo that supports unofficial/BCLK OCing. Unfortunately if you do find one I think you need to stick with old bios versions because newer ones seem to be locking BCLK OCing down so that's the downside.

        All the best with the build :D

        • Thank you :)

  • Why not get a 3TB hard drive its $129

    • If I can get it down cheap enough then hell yea!

  • Are you assembleing yourself? If not pccg builds are pretty good and reasonable

    price.https://www.pccasegear.com/category/1411/systems

    If not let the parts parade begin

    Edit: if you have an old case that fits your parts dont buy a new one, sure it looks cool but waste of cash. Also you dont need the 390 you could buy mid range unless you want ultra everything… New gpu are planned for release this year, maybe buy mid range now then mid range in 2 years time?

    • I am planning on doing a self build with help from friends as I have never built before :)
      No case and no gpu to be reused as this is my first desktop for ages(been using laptop)

      Yea i wasn't going to invest in a GPU yet, that was a $500 placeholder till the new ones are announced. I was going to use onboard for now, or borrow one haha.

      But other than that does the build seem ok? I always think of going back to OC build but the $200 saving can be better used in monitor purchase, gpu or on the wife haha. I don't think the CPU will suffer for quite a while.

      • Build is fine.

        It's probably a good idea to buy everything from one shop. Easier to return or refund and replace items when you have everything in one receipt. The shop can also see that you've bought most of your components from them and they will be obliged to give you better after sales service.

        • so basically msy vs umart, who as I understand only offer manufacturers warranty lol. But I do agree with you. Ill pick the cheapest one. I have been recommended to go for a "cheaper" ssd and bump it up to 500gb, so was looking at OCZ Trion instead.

      • That seems fine, also check local metal scrap yard you might find a nice case for cheap, not so much scrap value in cases.

        If it was me I would buy a 200-300 buck gpu now and in 2-3 years buy another of round same value. You dont want to be buying brand new tech, high prices, new bugs issues and design flaws. Better to be middle pack.

        • Perfect thanks for that. I am worried about the i5 CPU not being able to handle Quantum Break, but i think the i7 requirements for ultra is a bit inflated.

        • @moman: im not sure about that game tbh but id save the extra and get the i5, but its your baby at the end of the day if you wanted to splash the cash im sure you would find the value your seeking.

          Ps. I did get an i5 only months ago haha.

        • @Slippery Fish:

          Yea you are right. I actually decided against it before i read your post. Ive actually been concentrating on finding an ATX mobo for around $200 most of the day. I'm pretty sure the ASUS is the best as the MSI seems very similar to me.

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