Pizza Hut Driver Witnessed Crashing into Parked Car - Pizza Hut Uninterested

Whilst visiting family, a St Marys Pizza Hut delivery driver backed out of a neighbouring property and into my stationery parked vehicle. He sped off without stopping, drawing the attention of three eyewitnesses who came and reported this to the house I was visiting.

After establishing via the neighbour whose driveway he was exiting, that the Blue Pulsar in question belonged to a Pizza Hut delivery driver who had just delivered pizza to the house, I called the store and told them that one of its drivers was just witnessed colliding with a stationery vehicle and fleeing the scene, and was asked to come to the shop to report the accident.

Long story short, after getting to the store and seeing an exact match for the car eyewitnesses described, complete with damage to the rear-left panel and a smearing of my car paint on it, the Not-A-Manager's-A$$hole in charge queried his driver, who denied it, and basically said there is nothing I can do. He elaborated that drivers were contractors, not employees and that despite the damage to both vehicles, the order sheet which put the driver at the scene of the accident and the accounts of three independent eyewitnesses, that it was my word against his and not Pizza Hut's responsibility.

I insisted that police were called and they attended a couple hours later, and despite telling the driver that it was pretty obvious he had done it given the physical evidence (and that any formal statements they could obtain from the witnesses would be pretty damning evidence if required in court) he stuck to his guns despite admitting the car was not insured and eventually refused to co-operate further with police until he could speak with legal aid. Clearly, we're dealing with a fine upstanding citizen here of strong moral fibre.

Police said given the likelihood he was driver, they could get him to provide details which I could provide to my insurer so they could fit the bill, although if I wanted to hold him accountable, they'd first need to speak with the witnesses (whose details I provided) after which time he'd be hit with a number of infringements including failure to stop and exchange details after an accident. Anyhow, I understand pursuing the matter will not be the police's highest priority and a week later, I'm waiting to hear what happens next. But it is now, my highest priority. I've got a thing for natural justice and refuse to stand idly by and let this grub who's been caught red handed weasel out of responsibility and potentially continue fleeing further accidents.

Pizza Hut have thus far failed to respond to my correspondence. I've already wasted hours of my life dealing with this fat, cowardly grub and his employer who refuses to entertain any discussion since "he's just a contractor". In the meantime, I'm left with a vehicle with a couple thousand dollars damage and which will require time and inconvenience to be repaired, presumably at my expense.

If anyone has any suggestions on how to compel an outcome out of police, the driver or Pizza Hut, I'd love to hear them. Extra points for creativity…

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      • Can't believe how many people are justifying the actions of someone who committed a hit and run. Would you be saying the same thing if he mowed over a person?

        • -1

          apples and pears. Of course I wouldn't say the same if someone died. That would be criminal. This was a minor civil incident.

          I don't think The manager or the driver deserve to lose their job for not apologising or owning up when it is clear the op can find redress from their insurance company without them having to admit anything.

          It's all about keeping things in perspective.

        • I didn't justify anything - quit with the hysterics and strawman arguments.

        • +3

          @meumax: I think the driver should lose their job, not for causing the accident but rather for lieing about it when there was obvious evidence.

        • +2

          @meumax:

          You don't think the driver should lose their job? F me. Accident aside, he committed a crime driving away from the scene of an accident. And it's not like it's a low speed insignificant scrape.

          So what happens in 6 months if the insurance company says "sorry, we can't prove the culpability of the other driver" so OPs premiums go up by 100s?
          Or are you expecting that the insurance company just "does the right thing to do" too?

          Driver committed a crime. Needs to be fired.
          If the manager willingly employed someone, with the specific intention of using them as a delivery driver, without insurance he also needs to be fired.

        • +3

          @sagiballs:
          If the driver didn't lie about it - he should not lose his job - accidents happen.

          If the driver purposely lies and denies it - he should lose his job.

        • +2

          @sagiballs:

          he committed a crime driving away from the scene of an accident.

          Driver committed a crime.

          no crime has been committed. the offence of "not give particulars to other driver" is a driving offence in nsw, and neither a serious driving offence or a criminal offence.

          the driving offence is

          Road Rule 287 (1)&(2)(a), Not give particulars to other driver, Fine level 5, Fine $319, Demerit points 3.

        • +2

          @sagiballs:
          Let me rephrase. Most people would not voluntarily incriminate themselves if the result is loss of their job. I am merely pointing out that the driver is acting rationally given their available options.

          I therefore believe OP anger is irrational. The root cause of anger is unrealistic expectations. If you go through life expecting the most virtuous of behaviour from your fellow humans you're going to be a pretty angry and frustrated person.

          You can't control how other people act but you can control how you react and respond to them. In this case I believe the OP had an unrealistic expectation that these people would grovel at his feet and beg for forgiveness. He got angry when they didn't. But that was his choice to be angry.

          I am saying by understanding the motivation of the other parties to lie about the incident the OP would not feel so angry if he understood this.

        • +2

          @meumax:

          So to summarise: when someone throws you under the bus, don't get angry because you can only expect people to act in their own self interests.

          No thanks.

          I would definitely get angry. There is a large difference between getting angry and wantonly destroying the shop. Or physically abusing people.

          Good luck to you in life if you just roll over because you think you understand others' motivations

        • @sagiballs:

          when someone throws you under the bus,

          that would be assault and a crime. if that happened to op, than it would be understandable to get angry.

          what allegedly happen to op is nothing more than an accident. op has insurance. so let them do their job and chase the other driver. wanting the other driver's head on spike (sacked) is an overreaction.

        • +1

          @meumax:

          Everyone understands the motivation, it doesn't mean one should let it go.

          I'm afraid in Australian society, I certainly have an expectation if someone rams into my car by their fault, that the art fault party is responsible to get my car back to its original state, whether I have insurance or not. Whether or not this expectation is often achieved is another matter.

          Please don't dumb the incident down and say it's 'an accident'. Accidents happen, but you still need to suffer the consequences of it. OP obviously has, and so should the driver.

        • +2

          @Deridas:

          I understand you expect justice. What I'm saying is if you expect a "just world" (it's actually a concept, look it up some time it's fascistic reading) where bad guys always lose, karma gets those who get away with evil deeds, bad things never happen to good people then you're going to experience outrage and anger on a daily basis when your unrealistic expectations are not met.

          I say, why get angry over things you can't control? OP already can have a fully repaired car courtesy of insurance. What good does it do to obsess over trying to achieve their ideal of justice when it is unrealistic to expect that in the first place? All it is doing is giving OP mental stress and anger.

        • +1

          @meumax:

          Well said, understanding takes the heat out of anger - understanding of the others position and the cancer anger is, both. But some need to know the pain of being angry (enough) before understanding can be really employed.

  • +1

    Fight those battles you can, changes those things you can. Accept the rest.
    The Pizza place owner doesn't loose sleep or money, the driver doesn't seem to loose sleep, possible some money in fines, but given our strange 'justice' system I doubt he is really made to pay, the police have moved on to bigger fish and mainly all that silly paperwork associate with it.

    The only one paying with loss of sleep is you.

    Been there done that got the t-shirt and too many sleepless nights worrying about those idiots myself.
    Learn to let it go.

    • +4

      *lose

      /end spelling police

    • +2

      It isn't easy for some people to learn this. You should respect OP for being one of the rare types of people left who don't take the easy way out.

  • +1

    contact pizza huts head office

  • +10

    Better Call Saul

    • Charlies Angels … even better. :-)

  • +7

    I'm just here for the OP's vocabulary. Pretty solid writing right here.

    • +1

      Let's face facts here though, OzBargainers in general have set the overall literacy bar pretty low…

      • I don't really blame them if they don't want to spend some effort crafting their replies. I appreciate that the OP does though.

        • +2

          Just remember, verbose does not necessarily mean well crafted.

  • If pizza hut actually fire him.. you know.. he might actually get a better (any?) job after that. Do you really think he deserves that satisfaction and happiness?

  • +6

    Have you ever considered that your pompous attitude could be hindering your progress, as could your personal insults? I am also keen on people accepting personal responsibility, but if someone was calling me names "this fat, cowardly grub" I wouldn't be inclined to help them either. Did you go off on a rant when you confronted them in the pizza shop? Honestly?

  • Im suprised that you havent gone all hulk like….

    I would.

  • Im in a similar situation, a taxi driver ran into the back of me at a set of red lights and refuses to do anything. I believe the next steps are;

    1) write a letter of demand with a deadline for him to comply
    2) if he does not comply, take him to court. You can also demand compensation for legal fees and possibly loss of inconvenience, and chances are you will be compensated, for at least legal fees.

    Keep us updated!

  • +1
  • +4

    I really don't see why you are getting Pizza Hart involved at all. Someone hit your car, you got 3 witnesses. Make your statement, put your insurance claim in with all the details, and let the process work like it's supposed to.

    It's between you, your insurance company and the driver. Then police and courts as required. Employer shouldn't really matter - he wasn't driving a company car.

  • +1

    When the policemen were taking statements, they should have an audio recording at the very least.

    If and when the fault can be assigned to the driver, you would have further recourse to consider. It is unlikely that you would able to pin anything against the manager as he is only acting on behalf of the company and the information that the "contractor" has provided him.

    Here is what you can do:
    1. Failure to stop as already mentioned.
    2. Dangerous driving. You'll need to engage a public prosecutor.
    3. Knowingly providing false testimony to the police. This would require the audio recording.
    4. Investigate the nature of the employment of said "contractor". Chances are, this is sham "contracting" which the employer will be cop a big fine. I can almost bet that the driver does not meet the criteria to be a contractor and is considered an employee according to fairwork and ATO.

    If the driver breaks and changes his story, you can start piling on the manager. If the manager was allegedly informed by the driver that he, the driver, caused the damage, then the manager would can be charged with perjury. Perjury is a very serious offence. Very serious.

    All this will cost you money but assuming you're in the right (we don't know) and your lawyer is worth his salt, you can have the magistrate assign your legal cost to the other party.

    • +1

      LOL.

      You want to spend thousands of dollars in the hope that a pizza delivery driver can cough up the money to pay your legal costs?? He can just as easily declare bankruptcy and it's all over for you.

      • I never said it was a good idea. In fact, I'm on board that it is an outrageously stupid idea.

        On the other hand, you get to see latrines full of sh*t hitting the fan. Who is to say that isn't worth it?

        waiting with stale popcorn

  • +6

    Don't worry mate, the at-fault driver will definitely get his comeuppance. From the testimony you have given, there is more than enough evidence to place the driver at fault and the police should slap him with a "failure to provide details at a scene of an accident" fine.

    You have comprehensive insurance and because of the evidence you have, you won't need to pay the excess. And trust me, the insurance company won't be forking out any money for this. They have a team of lawyers which they'll use to extract all the repair costs + any admin fees from the at-fault driver.

    There's really not much left for you to do other than to leave it to the insurance and police.

  • All you need is an address for the responsible party and hand it to your insurer.

  • -5

    Did you order salty tears?

  • +2

    I work at pizza hut, and I think you are doing the right thing. If you give the store a ring and get the owners number and have a chat to them? I'm sure he/she wouldn't be too pleased with having a driver doing things like this. I know I wouldn't be being a manager and all.

  • The Pizza hut manager implying they have no responsibility for the damages because they are "a contractor" is completely false. My view is that if Pizza Hut have approved the contractor to work on behalf of them (which they have), then Pizza Hut should be held accountable for the damage incurred. Afterwards, Pizzahut will obviously make a claim against the contractor, but that is between Pizza hut and the contractor, not you. I think you have more than enough evidence to support your position and have done all you can so far.

    • +2

      Just so you know, your view is wrong. It's well established that you're only potentially liable for the acts/omissions of an employee (vicarious liability) - not a contractor.

      • +3

        I would go so far as to argue that he is actually an employee and the arrangement as a contractor is not lawful. Therefore Pizza Hut is responsible for their actions. Obviously it would take some effort to have FWA declare as such.

        • I would go so far as to argue that he is actually an employee

          Well that's literally what you'd have to do if you took Pizza Hut to court.

  • +5

    You crack me up Captn Ahab!

    You have a solution (insurance) but you have this fantasy about the driver and the CEO of Pizza Hut coming around and admitting fault and giving you a foot rub.

    You complain about your time being wasted but you obviously have too much time on your hands.

    My advice would be to hand this on to your insurance company and pat yourself on the back for having the proper insurance.

    Then smile and move on with your life and forget about your white whale!

    • +1

      Lol Ahab, like in Moby Dick :D

  • +2

    I would write a very careful formal letter to head office asking for formal confirmation that Pizza Hut delivery cars do not require third party damage or publc indemnity insurance proof. That would be quite a big admission and position of leverage. The law has the concept of 'agents' and that contractor was Pizza Hut's agent for which they hold basic responsibilities. I would first try to get in writing what they think they are and are not.

  • +2

    Good on you man! It's going to be a shit ton of work going about it the way you are, but if you want to do it, I certainly won't stop you. Hopefully you can deliver a swift legal nutshot to this bastard. A bonus would be an expose on Pizza Hut's apparent willingness to hire uninsured drivers.

  • +1

    Don't Pizza Hut drivers pay insurance per delivery when you use your own car? We had to pay 25c per delivery at Domino's. If they do pay insurance then Pizza Hut will foot the bill.

  • +1

    Probably lied about not being insured.

    Does Pizza Hut require their drivers to be?

    Can't you report it to your insurer and let them find out if he's insured. Then make a claim if he is? Not sure

    A contractor Can be deemed an employee but this matter is probably too small to find that out in the courts, many case law for compensation to contractors or liability for contractors . If the worker works regular hours, works for no one else, wears uniform etc it can mean employee. The manager probably knows he will be liable

    I think you're dealing with a bunch of liars

    • +1

      Probably lied about not being insured. Does Pizza Hut require their drivers to be?

      Very good points.

    • A contractor Can be deemed an employee but this matter is probably too small to find that out in the courts, many case law for compensation to contractors or liability for contractors . If the worker works regular hours, works for no one else, wears uniform etc it can mean employee.

      fyi. auspost have possibly one of the largest network of delivery drivers working as "contractors". there are a few guys from potts hill depot that have been working more than six, seven years for the same pcbu. one of them worked for one pcbu for more than ten years. this guy got sacked for taken a two day holiday after working every day for ten years. these guys work five days a week with regular hours (0400 to late arvo). they all drive vans with startrack deco (auspost owned brand) and wear hi-vis polo shirts (sometimes caps) with auspost logo on the front.

      auspost call them "contractors" so that they can't access the same benefits that auspost employees do. they also deny liability for any wrongdoings that may happen while the contractors delivers auspost mail articles.

      • +1

        you are right, its all a balancing exercise determined by the court. the substance of the relationship. employers everywhere call their workers contractors. they are contractors until the court finds that they aren't.

        but it depends on the facts. against the worker would be if the drivers supply their own vehicle, if aus post does not prevents them from working for others, if the pay is an hourly rate and the employer pays for the expenses, if auspost doesn't dictate how they are to complete the work. just which side the scales tip.

        has aus post been taken to court to find out?

        not sure your context of pcbu and denying liability for wrongdoing during deliveries,they cant deny liability for safety laws if the drivers get injured or die at work, they are liable for workers, not employees.

        • These things never get to court. FWO only action official complaints - which you have to pay to file. You also risk getting yourself named in a judgement/media, which I'm sure will be good for future prospects.

          How it works is that a worker calls FWO and mentions it to employer, that worker maybe gets backpaid and then gets no further work. Then the next guy is screwed as before.

  • +1

    I tried to skip to the part where it said long story short. Didn't help

  • +3

    Wow dude this really sucks!

    They need to make it mandatory to have insurance to register a car.
    What an absolute joke this country is.

    Surely if they brought in a law where insurance is mandatory and if you dont have it no doubt they would be more than happy to find people without insurance!!

    Maybe head to facebook and make a public post on their page?
    Social medi always gets things moving and while your at it send us a link here so we can share it!!

    I would think that pizza hut would have some sort of public liability and they are just saying that the drivers a contractors.
    I would call the head office and get more information because it sounds like you are really getting messed around by the manager of this store.

    Care to name and shame as well so we can avoid this store?

    • But… it is mandatory to have insurance to register a car. Atleast it is in NSW.

      What am I missing here?

      http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/offences-penalt…

      • +1

        But… it is mandatory to have insurance to register a car. Atleast it is in NSW.

        ctp yes. tpp no.

        • so if u need CTP doesnt that mean the insurance should cover the damage to OP's car?

        • @Hirolol:

          Whooah is referring to compulsory third party which only covers people, not property. Comprehensive third party is what covers ops car and third partys car.

      • oh im in vic.
        not sure

  • If you are insured, tell your insurer, tell them Yesterday. Your premiums will NOT go up. They will pay for your repairs and they will pursue the responsible party for the cost so they are not out of pocket either, they are very good at this. You risk this if you do not tell them immediately after the accident, do it now.

    If you just want the driver held accountable and the damage repaired ignore Pizza Hut. The only reason to bring them into it is to kick up a stink and somehow get more than the cost of repairs.

    It's worth noting that even some third party insurances cover this, you often don't even need 'comprehensive' insurance, as long as you can identify the responsible party, you have to pay nothing.

  • Seems like your Facebook post was deleted again.

  • +3

    Put a fake pizza order for 100 pizzas.

  • call the soprano? :)

  • The amount of times this has happened to me. Just keep pursuing it.

    • +4

      You might be better off just making your own pizza…just food for thought! ;)

      • +1

        Hahaha nice comment.

  • +1

    You should get free pizza for life and the driver should be made to be your butler, for say a year
    It's no wonder he ran, what do think pizza the hut, beagle boys and the rest pay their (slave labour) I mean contractors
    They use the 'contactors' car and fuel, then tell them to step on it.
    How much debt would you have to be in to take a job like that.

    No wonder people jump off bridges

  • As much as you might like it to be otherwise, it has nothing to do with Pizza Hut.

  • As a previous Driver at Pizza Hut, I can assure you the company has zero liability in this case. During on-boarding there is paperwork you must sign which clears Pizza Hut of this type of thing, they do however offer insurance which protects your existing insurance policy because your personal car is being used for work purposes, this doesn't apply in the ops case because the offender had no policy to protect. Furthermore in the 4 odd years I was a driver I never once heard of any drivers being employed as contractors. It was also was prerequisite that you used your personal vehicle for deliveries, there was no mention that you must be insured, though any logical person who has to drive for their income would take at least take out third party.

    • That's interesting, I don't know how PH can get away with letting this slip through the cracks…any contracting gigs I've ever had required an insurance certificate of currency as part of the requisite documentation…not that any of them have involved pizza. ;)

      • +1

        Things may have changed recently, I worked there a while ago now. But it certainly never used to be.

  • I was a contractor driver for pizza hut in 2003.
    There was never a guarantee of how much money you would make,all the risk was put on you, half my time was spent waiting for an order. I would be lucky to make $60 in a night which had to cover the petrol (which was cheaper back then) then have to keep money aside for tax and spend time submitting it every quarter.

    It was definitely not a lucrative position to be in

    The only perk was a free pizza at the end of the night.

    • -1

      I would be lucky to make $60 in a night which had to cover the petrol (which was cheaper back then)

      how much did you drive per night. we get 500km out of $50 at $1 per litre. that's to drive a 2t vehicle for a week.

  • +2

    Past incident with Pizza Hut driver and Pizza Hut ended up paying the claimant. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/pizza-hut-delivered-dent-car-f…

    • Unforuntately, the story in your abcnews link is from the USA ("- Terri Finley, Iowa City, Ia."). Our Australian state laws may or may not be same. Though the lawyer's advice is very applicable:
      "…
      Terfehr said Pizza Hut drivers aren’t independent contractors; they work for either a franchise or the corporation, depending on the restaurant. They are, however, required to have their own insurance and it must meet the requirements of their state. If an accident occurs while on duty, the driver’s own insurer is supposed to handle the claim, but Pizza Hut has excess insurance as back-up in case there’s a problem. Those accidents are handled on a case-by-case basis.

      Paul J. Molinaro, an attorney with Fransen & Molinaro LLP in California, says it’s important for accident victims to get a police report listing the delivery driver’s name, address and insurance company and to document the scene with lots of photos, including shots of the restaurant logo on the car, pizzas on the front seat and anything else that shows that the driver was working. It’s easy to do this at the scene with a smartphone.

      Molinaro says that even with smaller cases like this, consumers shouldn’t try to contact a company over the phone. It’s better to put your claim in writing, with copies of the police report and repair estimates and a demand for a set amount of money by a certain date. The letter should be sent to the corporation’s registered agent, the corporation itself and the local franchise, by certified mail.
      "

      • Try the Aussie version, doesn't taste as sweet.

        https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200809041546…

        • why Aussie version refers to Michigan? and the OP from South Florida?

        • @meanozbgnr:

          I thought that was because someone from the US answered. But given that the OP is asking other questions about American Airlines you are almost certainly right. I put in a search for Australian results on Google and it came up with au.answers.yahoo.com. I should have checked more closely.

  • -1

    Hi UncleRico. Best not to rely on Pizza Hut's HQ as they have absolutely no power to fire a franchisor's employee. I know this from personal experience with my own complaint with "Pizza Capers" and dealing with their HQ. "Re: Complaint-Jerrabomberra Pizza Capers: Food poison + deceptive conduct + overcharging + incomplete recipe ingredients" [Pizza Capers HQ - Request #62387].

    To make a long story short. Even with the full cooperation and support of HQ they have no power to fire the employee. Only the franchisor (owner) can discipline his employees.

    I did everything I could within the Pizza Capers internal complaints process. I telephoned Pizza Capers HQ who put me through to the HQ Customer service officer (the highest complaints person), they sent the Regional Manager to investigate by personally meeting the franchise owner+duty manager.

    Like the OP, I kept physical evidence. Was credible and clearly stated my desired outcome (ie. dismissal and/or correction). The Customer service officer + her contract lawyers believed me. The Regional Manager believed me. The duty manager believed me.

    The problem was the Franchise Owner played super hardball. Franchisor told the regional manager + HQ to bugger off, that management and discipline of his personal employees was his business and would not fire the employees in question.

    HQ + regional manager could only halt employees until they completed the online food and safety training. I guess the HQ lawyers looked over the contracts and couldn't find a breach of contract, otherwise they'd have leverage to apply contractual penalties (eg. financial, boot the franchise, etc).

    For the OP's situation that would mean somehow Pizza Hut HQ lawyers figure how a motor vehicle accident is a breach of contract. That's unlikely to be explicitly written in the franchise contract.

  • +2

    Am I the only one who wants to slash all his tyres? And not just one either because that can be changed with a spare. I mean all four tyres because that will need a tow truck.

    I think that's the justice you are looking for here. I'm pretty sure that's what Batman would do.

    • +5

      The OPs tyres? No, you're not the only one.

    • +1

      Follow his car when he is delivering.
      When that car is parked for a delivery….

  • Like as if Pizza Hut cares.

    Most employers would not hire employees (or contractors) who exhibit a bad character or morally bad behaviour, similar to a 'hit and run' with personal possessions.

    But Pizza Hut is too big and multi national to think anything will happen or they need to be concerned about!

    Follow up the police. Send an email to the company's formal contact address, as per their dispute process.
    And best of luck.

  • +1

    It blows my mind that Pizza Hut didn't fire him…

    • Maybe they did. If they are professional they would never disclose it to the OP. I would expect though they would need to wait for the Police finding. Imagine if anybody could walk in off the street, tell a story and get someone fired.

  • If the driver admitted the car was uninsured, why did the police not book him for drive whilst uninsured? Penalty in NSW is $637 for drive whilst uninsured…

    I would have thought he would be booked for that, otherwise the police could have sat around the corner waiting for him to drive again.

    • Not true. In fact this is the 2nd time I've been told this. How many people are driving around thinking their CTP protects against vehicle damage.

    • OP means the other party is uninsured for third party property.
      The penalty (you quoted) is for unregistered vehicle for over 21 days. Hence car also becomes unsinsured on compulsory third party,

  • -6
    1. OP in this universe does not cost or put others at disadvantage nor has he done anything wrong
    2. Pursuing this matter is his right, and by choice.
    3. How people value their time is different to each other
    4. Doing something and provided you get anything or learnt something from it is never a waste of time
    5. Choosing to not do anything is also your option and your right and of course those who did wrong are always hoping the world is full of "nice" people
    6. But the responsibility on the consequence whether in the short/long term and whether doing/not-doing anything is for each individual to accept and bear.
    7. Not being meaningful, not supporting the OP but spending time to type, argue him, and not answering the topic's question and objective is actually wasting your time.
    8. Being better is a pursuit and a right. Getting down and staying down, adapting with the system is fine too.
    9. But remember the pursuit and how much blood spilled for that system to be put in the first place. Without constant improvement and awareness…. you're dead.
    10. At least somebody is putting up themselves for the rest of us to ultimately just enjoy our fortunate lives and watch TVs/Monitors when everything is fine and dandy later…

    Show some kind appreciation and support maybe :)

  • +1

    If he is a contractor, it is none of Pizza Hut business.

    He can do whatever he wants and get the job done anyway he likes, unless their code of conduct is included in the contract which seems to be unlikely but even in that case Pizza Hut could only unlawfully terminate the contract and would be liable to pay out the remaining of the contract plus the damage caused to the contractor and still would not pay for your car damage.

    It is like you ask Adidas for reimbursements because Luis Suarez bites! or you want NAB to pay out your lost share value because one of their account holders shuts the business and flees to Indonesia with shareholders money!

    If you do not want to leave it for your insurer, the best option is to chase that person up, go to the police and follow their instructions, maybe take him to court with your evidences and witnesses and police report.

    BY the way, I would not buy pizza from them, some places not very customer friendly (I guess they are mainly franchisee and don't care) also not very clean (I got sick each time I tried their pizza)

    • +4

      Most pizza delivery drivers hired as independent contractors are indeed ruled as employees (at least on tax super purpose). Read this and Domino $32m verdict for "contractor"'s delivery accident.

      You can pursue yourself or easier though insurance company. Can go after Pizza Hut.

      File a hit and run with police. Police will assess if there is enough evidence for charge,

  • -6

    People are way to precious about their cars.
    I haven't read most of this rant but here are my thoughts.
    You tried negotiate but failed.
    This kid driving this car could probably but only dream of buying a new car like you did.
    Suck it in, man-up, stop whinging to strangers on the internet and move on.
    If it makes you feel better, order Dominoes next time.
    Cheers

    • Whats the bet your car is worth less than 5k lol

      • Nope, i'm a Dr and i drive a BMW less than a year old. I also remember what it was like when i was poor and had to minimum wage work.
        Do you?

        • I'm 17 and paid minimum wage so yes, yes I do.

  • Not sure what you expect pizza hut or the assistant manager to do.
    It is a Police matter they are not police.
    But calling the Assistant manager the nasty names you did because he didn't bend over for you, to me makes you a greater villain than the driver.

  • +1

    'how to compel an outcome out of police', pretty sure that's considered naughty.

    • Only if it's an outcome of your desire!

  • I note someone has posted this thread on Pizza Hut's wall and they've responded that they're aware of this and dealing with all concerned parties in regards to it.

  • +2

    Any updates?

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