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AmEx Offer: Spend $500 or More, Get $70 Back @ Malaysia Airlines

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MALAYSIA AIRLINES

Spend $500 or more, get $70 back
a.) Register by saving the offer to Card and spend $500 or more, in one or more transactions, via phone or online at malaysiaairlines.com by 10/4/16 to receive one $70 credit. Limited to the first 20,000 Cards to register.

b) manual link:

https://offerenroll.americanexpress.com/enroll/EnrollmentSit…

OFFER TERMS
Offer only applies to spend on this Card. It does not apply to spend on any supplementary Cards on this account or any other American Express Cards you might hold.

Card Members must register by saving this offer to this Card and spend $500 or more on their registered Card via phone or online at malaysiaairlines.com, in one or more transactions, between 1/3/16 and 10/4/16 to receive one $70 credit.

Participation is limited to the first 20,000 Cards to register, and the offer is limited to one credit per registered Card.

Purchases made through online aggregators or a third party such as PayPal or other retailers are excluded.

Offer valid via phone or online only at malaysiaairlines.com

AUD transactions and flights departing from AU only.

Codeshare flights are excluded.

Credit is not redeemable for cash or other payment form.

Credit is normally issued within 5 business days of the eligible spend; however, depending on the merchant, it could take up to 90
days from the end date of the campaign to appear in your account.

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  • Beware of MA's 3 month refund policy in case of cancellation. And it is not mentioned in its T&C.

    • +7

      MH should be like a taxi. Payment on successful completion of your trip. Or they might have to send out a search party for your refund.

      Jokes aside, MH gives no leeway with cancellations and refunds in my experience, so be careful. My flight was rescheduled by 20 minutes on a non-refundable fare, they wouldn't refund me when I tried to cancel it.

      Another thing. If you're booking MH to earn qantas points or Status credits. The flexible fares are not counted by Qantas as flexible (despite what the MH website says when you book, the ticket will have a discount fare class on it) , so there is almost nothing to earn on MH flights in econ.

      Still a deal though.

      • +6

        20 minutes is a drop in the ocean for flight delays.

      • +2

        20 minutes… really?

        • +1

          Yep, connecting with an Air Asia X flight. I didn't want anything cutting into my transit times.

        • @ChickenTalon: To be fair to MH, any airline has the legal right to reschedule flights without compensating you (except as specified for long delays in some jurisdictions) - in fact, the basic thing is that a ticket is simply an agreement to get you to your destination sometime… If you book separate tickets, the onus is completely on you to ensure that there is a very large buffer to cover most contingencies.

        • @bloomer: lol. No they don't have that right.

          ticket is simply an agreement to get you to your destination sometime…

          That's a ridiculous comment

          In the first instance, they need to hold to the terms and conditions of the fare. And regardless of what that says, they still need to comply with the law, typically the departing country's laws for the first flight of any trip. Suggest you find out more.

          https://www.choice.com.au/travel/on-holidays/airlines/articl…

          But you are right, people should leave a reasonable allowance for things like this. I wasn't prepared to accept a re-schedule and then the additional possibility of a delay on top of that. I don't think it's unreasonable to request a refund for a flight that has been rescheduled.

          Edit: nice edit to your original comment.. "(except as specified for long delays in some jurisdictions)"

        • @ChickenTalon: First of all, the edit was done about 15secs after I pressed post on the original comment, so it was a clarification I made, not you.

          Second of all, the terms of a ticket do not in fact guarantee passage on a particular flight or date in most cases (it has been a common misconception for decades). The good thing is that airlines nowadays are a little more "generous" in how they handle rescheduling/cancellation. Nonetheless, the options of refund only kick in with significant delays or cancellation, and even then some of the airlines have wiggle-room for rebooking you before offering you a refund. (Or, in for example the case of Virgin, they don't offer a real refund in many scenarios, just a credit.)

          And if you bought a ticket with MH with the knowledge that a tiny change of 20mins would stuff your travel connection, then…

        • +2

          @bloomer: I'm sorry, I don't buy the standard practice. If VA cancels my flight or delays me so that the flight is useless then I'm getting a full refund. There is nothing in Australian Consumer Law that excuses them from their obligations, even when you agree to Ts and Cs. Additional compensation is where it's open to interpretation.

          I bought a ticket with MH knowing that a 20m change wouldn't effect my travel connection, but I thought it might be easier to look for an alternative as my connection time became slightly tighter.

        • @ChickenTalon: Which Australian law are you referring to that grants the right to a full refund with minor schedule changes? I've certainly never read it.

        • @callum9999: None, I was addressing the comments made about a cancellation or significant delay with VA. In this instance it would be a service under ACL https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees…
          No way i'm accepting a voucher for the fare. People should not simply accept less than their entitlement because it's standard practice or in some Ts and Cs.

          Back to MH & minor schedule changes. If an airline varies the schedule then I think they should give you the option of cancelling, MH did not, which I think is relevant to consider before booking with them. Qantas and even Jetstar offered a refund for me (although I chose to stick with the booking) in the past when making minor schedule changes of only 15 minutes.

        • @ChickenTalon:

          Sorry ChickenTalon you are dead wrong. Sorry to burst your idealistic world view but just try getting a refund from a non-Australian airline that adjusts your departure time by 20mins. It won't happen.

          Qantas, VA, etc do work with customers because Australia is a nice place. Just last week Qantas delayed my international flight by 23hrs, yet they offered no hotel, compensation and certainly no refund. How do you explain that against your 'standard practice'?

      • Yes MH 'Enriich' earn rates are terrible. But they do have a bid for upgrade which can be a cheap way to upgrade (if that is your 'bag')

  • -5

    Yeah uhhh… life back guarantee?

  • Damn, just paid $500 for some domestic fares next week. Will have to increase my business class upgrade bid amount to over $500 and hope all sectors come thru!

  • -6

    Malaysian airlines could be 50% cheaper than any other airline and I still wouldn't fly with them.

    At least in this instance it is one or more transactions.

  • I can't find the offer…

  • Will they still be in business in 6 months time? (The airline)

    • reasonable question.

      They're bleeding cash like crazy. New CEO has come on board and ordered a refresh, which is basically painting a line or two on some aircraft because that's all they can afford to do. So things are looking grim with them, definitely book with a credit card, in case you need to charge back.

      • They've done a hell of a lot more than "paint a line or two on some aircraft"…

  • -7

    People just don't learn …. your life should be a few hundreds $$$$ more expensive…

    • +6

      What a ridiculous comment.

      • I think it is justified. The airline did loose two planes in 2014, 370 and 19. 19 was flying over a warzone unlike other airlines which diverted their path around it. If safety is paramount, then there definitely are better airlines to fly with. I think AllWins makes a good point and this should be considered for future Malaysia Airline deals as a forewarning.

        • Do we stop driving to work just because there are accidents on the road…of course not.That's crazy talk.

        • +4

          Sounds like you've been caught up in the media spin. If you looked at any of the publicly available flight tracking sites at the time, Thai Airways and Singapore Airlines were both using the exact same flight corridor all within minutes of MH17. Had it been 20 mins after MH17 passed through, it would've been a Singapore Airlines jet from Copenhagen that would've been shot down.

        • @nocure: Unfortunately history does repeat itself and low cost airlines tend to cut corners. I see what you are saying that theres risk involved in all daily activities. I remember hearing a friend mention recently that their family was on flight 19 the day before it crashed.

        • +6

          What madrooster said (Thai/Sinagpore Airlines were flying right behind).

          Not all airlines avoided that flight path, and you would hardly call Singapore Airlines budget.

      • Tell us it is still not ridiculous when someone you know is no longer there because of this airline

    • -5

      Your life definitely worth more than $70…

      If you lost your family member(s) in those MA flights, you wouldn't upvote this deal.

    • +2

      Agree, you can certainly pay more for safety as far as airlines are concerned. And MH isn't a top rated airline for safety

      http://www.airlineratings.com/safety_rating_per_airline.php
      OR
      http://www.jacdec.de/airline-safety-ranking-2015/

      Not really a worthy deal neg though. People put different values on things. There are far worse airlines for safety that people have no problems flying and up voting here. AirAsia and Thai Airways come to mind.

      • +4

        While you can pay more for a statistically safer airline I wonder if people that do own the car with the highest ANCAP safety rating possible? Because you're at much higher risk of dying in a car accident. than even some of the worse airlines.

        Both of the recent Malaysian airline incidents weren't really their fault - even good airlines have failed to pick up that a particular pilot has a mental illness before it's too late. And you would not reasonably expect anyone operating an anti aircraft weapon in Russia (different story in the middle east) in this day and age to shoot down a civilian plane flying at 30,000 feet, it shocked the world.

        The fear of flying in a modern airliner and thinking that an airlines safety record is really going to make a huge difference is completely irrational. The only way I can explain it is that when you board an aircraft you are not in control - you are putting your life in the hands of others and expecting them to do their job properly but then again realistically when you take to the road you are also putting your life in the hands of others too and hoping they wont drive like idiots, the difference is that pilots / engineers / mechanics are all professionally trained and audited, drivers aren't and that's scary.

        • Your argument is pointless… a car accident doesn't necessarily leading to death , while a airplane accident normally does, and in MA's case, none survivor at all. Yes, the one over Ukraine is a war related but the other one is not. How can you brazenly say the first one is not their fault ? whose fault is it ? Yes, maybe it is the fault of the passengers who choose to fly with MA in the first place, and that is exactly why I will neg every so called MA deal. This airline should be banned altogether. A deal without respect to human life is worse than illicit drugs, no matter how much money to ' save' ?!

        • +3

          @AllWins:

          My argument is not pointless at all - you are far more likely to die in a car accident than on a Malaysia Airlines flight, if you included serious injury cars would be even worse. Sure we don't know for sure what happened with MH370 but based on the available evidence it looks like the pilot or copilot purposely disabled any tracking systems and then purposely flew the plane over the ocean until it ran out of fuel, if that's the case you can hardly blame Malaysia Airlines for the actions of a rogue pilot.

          Take this lufthansa case for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

          Lufthansa is considered a very safe airline yet a suicidal pilot managed to slip through the cracks.

          Your argument that OB should ban all Malaysia Airline deals because of two recent tragedies that aren't even their fault is ridiculous. That's like saying we should ban all car deals because there was a fatal car accident last week.

        • @chiefbodge: Your ignorance is simply outstanding. Read my post again, when did I say the Ukraine one is their fault? Using odds on car accident compared to airline ones is a joke, how often do you travel on jet vs how often do you travel on car? Something happens daily vs something happens once a month or even less frequent for most people? Simply put, if you fly MA everyday for 10 year, your chance of a crash and death is certainly higher than you travel in a 1990 Ford.

          Nobody argue air travel is not safe, but don't use this to underwrite a rotten airline such as MA, which should be banned due to its poor safety record.

        • @AllWins:

          What you are asserting is probably incorrect (you'd need to spend time looking at particular data which i assume you haven't done).

          This is a handy table that shows risks of different transport:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_safety#Comparison_to_…

          Yes deaths per journey for air travel is higher than cars but that's because car journeys are often a lot shorter, average journey time and kms travelled is much much higher for aircrafts. It's also not a fair comparison because per journey aircrafts carry hundreds of people where as cars only carry one or two.

          I think deaths per passenger km travelled is the best to go by and as you can see it is orders of magnitude lower for aircrafts. Even if you go by hours travelled deaths is much lower.

        • @chiefbodge

          A: You are hijacking the topic, it is not airplane vs car … it is rouge airline company like MA
          B: Your logical fallacy is obvious, you eat bread everyday and you claim the occurrence of food poison from bread is 365 times higher on Alien meant which you eat once a life ?!
          C: read this : http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-report-m… and read it carefully.

        • @AllWins:

          There's no logical fallacy at all.

          Let me say this again so it's completely clear:

          Per KM traveled or Hour travelled airlines (even Malaysia Airlines) are far safer than cars. If you actually bothered to look at the evidence you'd see that.

        • @AllWins:

          What a lot of shit, you only care for crashes destroying the plane, there are more survivors or minor plane crashes than there are deaths.

          There are more survivors of minor car accidents than there are deaths, but if a cars destroyed in an accident there is a bloody good chance youre dead too.

  • A fair bit of the $70 will vanish in foreign transaction fees, so this isn't a good deal. (MH website charges in AUD but is a foreign transaction.)

    • +2

      For an ex-AU booking? I have seen MH charges show up in AUD, as an AUD merchant.

      • Yes, it all looked AU-ish, but definitely was charged as a foreign transaction (two separate purchases in last three years).

        • never got charged forex fee from ex-oz flight

    • +1

      Get a card that waives foreign transaction fees. For example Bankwest Zero Platinum. $0 annual fee.

      • Do BankWest Platinum offers $70 cashback like AmEx ? Don't forget why this deal is here in the first place.

        • Split your payment and pay only $500 on Amex, rest on a fee-free card.

    • +1

      Not sure why u were negged. This is true.

      • I negged.

        Negged because he's doing something wrong.
        Firstly, forex fees are something like 3% + sometimes something ridiculous like $5 (that's on the high end). 3% of $500 is $15, add on $5 and that's $20. That's a whole $50 short of $70. Nowhere near wiping out the benefit. Obviously this is using a best case scenario where you're spending exactly $500, but even if you double it and make it $1000, the maths leads to a calculation of $35. You're still getting $35 credit.

        Secondly, I've only ever seen MH charge AUD for ex-Aus flight. This has been mentioned by a few of the people above me too. I note that he has mentioned it gets tagged as a foreign transaction, and this has never happened to me over about 4 or 5 bookings. In addition to this, if he really was charged a foreign transaction fee, I would make a complaint to my bank about it (and show them the receipt/screenshot if I had one).

        Thirdly, given that we are on Ozbargain, I think it would be reasonable to assume that the majority of us would look at this deal and imagine a deal taking us out of Australia and back in (as opposed to the other way round).

        Fourthly, this not really the kind of deal most on Ozbargain would look at and be like "whoa great deal!", unlike something like saving 15c/L on petrol (because petrol is inelastic and you're saving on something you know you'll spend on anyway). So I guess on this note, we come back to point one because the forex fees are insignificant and, because those who were planning to fly anyway will reap benefits similar to in point one, even if Malaysia Airlines charged in a foreign currency.

  • Trip once in a lifetime.

  • -6

    This will be a bargain if it comes with a multi-million life insurance policy.

  • -1

    I wish we'd find MH370 (may they rest in peace) so we could get back to telling tasteless jokes about the airline.

  • Didn't PanAm go bankrupt after Lockerbie? I think there is a very good chance they won't be in business for long. I have met people who have told me that the flights on Malaysian airlines are almost empty. Airlines can't stay in business for long when the flights are almost empty.

    • MH was restructured last year and removed some routes and aircraft. They're currently introducing a new business cabin. Haven't been able to sell off their A380s (they'll probably be glad for that if their finances and reputation manage to pick up). So who knows… but unlike PanAm, MH has a fair bit of state protection.

    • +1

      I read a news article (news.com.au) this week saying the airline is struggling though it won't affect the compensation claims or vice versa because the insurance company will be liable for that. I wouldn't touch them, I don't trust them

    • An empty, or even a full aircraft for that matter doesn't really mean much from the point of view of "success". It is a poor indicator of whether an airline is doing really well or really badly. There are so many other factors to consider (seats, IFE, lounges, loyalty programs, aircraft, maintenance, sponsorships, promotions, freight) - all of which will have an impact on their profits.

      You could have sold 200x seats for $200 each.

      You could also have sold 20x seats for $2000 each.

      However, by your logic, the airline able to sell 200x seats for $200 each are doing better because their aircraft is fuller.

      See the problem?

      • That's not really a "problem" - it's simple reality.

        Generally, airlines try to maintain load factors because they have a high fixed cost base, so the cost of flying a plane means that they will (as a rule) try to maximise the load on the plane. That's why when load factors fall below a certain level, airlines start to cancel routes.

        Your argument seems to be that if you sold the same product at $2000 instead of $200, then the airline would still make the same money. Fine in theory, not practical in the real world. The problem is that competition exists. So no one is going to pay 10x for the same product. Let's take your example and put it in a real world setting. Jetstar could sell 200 one-way economy tickets to Melbourne for $200 each. They could also sell 20 one-way economy tickets for $2,000 each. But no one will buy it. They probably wouldn't even get 20 takers. That's where your logic turns out to be specious.

        If it's a differentiated product (i.e. first class tickets for 10x the cost of economy), then yes, it does work. This is because you have consumers with a different willingness to pay and different price elasticities. But in that situation, they will still generally try to maximise load factors in economy class at the very least.

        These are simple examples and there is a whole art to yield management but in a nutshell, airlines try to manage load factors so planes aren't flying empty all the time. It's a key driver of revenue and their bottom line.

        • My example was in direct response what jovialjosie2002 said, and was clearly an extremely simplified (unrealistic) example to highlight why you wouldn't be able to look at one route on one particular day and use that as an indicator as to whether an airline is "doing well".

          It is similarly naive (but understandable, to an extent) to say "Plenty of people fly from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur on AirAsia.. my flight was so full. They must be doing so well on this Australia-Malaysia market" - there is nothing technically wrong with this statement. If your flight is full, then it is full. But half of those passengers are probably flying on towards other destinations in Thailand, China, Japan, Korea and is not a true reflection of the Australia-Malaysia aviation market.

          I absolutely understand what you've said (I am from the industry so have a reasonable understanding). I didn't mean it would be realistic to fly 20x passengers who paid $2000 - absolutely not. My point was 20x passengers paying $2000 is the same as 200x paying $200. Whether or not it would be likely to occur is another matter. Having said that, not all routes have (direct) competition.

          I am also aware of cancellations due to insufficient loads which happens quite frequently on routes like SYD-MEL at odd hours (and they'll just combine half full flights into one very full flight).

          Generally speaking, if an airline had 50 seats remaining on a flight tomorrow and could sell them all for $100 (despite regular price being $500), they would do so (without considering the potential impact of setting a precedence or impacting customer expectations)… Then you factor in no shows, potential delays from connecting flights, etc. and you're making my initial response much more complex than it was ever intended to be.

  • +1

    MAL service standards have gone down.
    In flight food and cleanlines is very poor
    And their celebrated KL airport is not a good place to spend few hours in trasit.
    Overall better to spend few dollars extra with SAL

    • +3

      I can agree with you, flew with them last year and their service has gone considerably down the hole and one thing did make me uncomfortable when flying with them is they have this "prayer before take off" on the monitor screen.

  • AUD transactions and flights departing from AU only.

    I guess the problem is only flights departing from Australia, as plenty of people use MH to collect status credits on intra Asia business flights to bump up their status on QF.

  • The interiors of their aircaraft look tired. But I am not scared about flying with them. Also they may lift their game with their codeshare deal with Emirates (But I can't for the life of me understand why Emirates would take them on)

  • i can hadly find any decent deal with this airline, all quite pricey as compared to its competitors

  • -3

    Is this applicable on one way fares to the Southern India Ocean?

    • -2

      Only if you planned to fly in the opposite direction.

  • I think that Alpha flight Gurus could get you MAS return to Europe Business class for $5000.

  • -1

    I expect their website will be crashing shortly.

  • +2

    Fyi, for those thinking of using multiple amex cards, I've just tried to pay for booking over the phone and was told that I can only use one card per booking. So best to split your bookings if more than one is travelling.

    I'll try calling the local Malaysia Airlines office tomorrow to see if they'd let me pay with multiple cards on a single booking.

    • -2

      Of course they will, begger doesn't have a choice…or should not

    • were u able to use multiple cards?

  • i try to register using my essential card. could not see the offer in my account?
    not eligible for the Amex essential?

  • anyone able to pay for the booking using multiple cards?

    • No, unfortunately. I contacted the local MA office here in Melbourne but they couldn't process my payment due to the "special" fare given to me by the call centre.

      Best you can do is split booking if multiple passengers are travelling.

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