Nice price for this 5TB HDD. It's well reviewed on Amazon & NewEgg, getting 4 gold stars - more than I got in 12 years of public schooling.
CamelCamelCamel.
Found out recently it's actually "deprecating". You're being modest, not losing monetary value. The more you know!
They are both valid IMO.
When you depreciate, you drop in value or lower in esteem.
Hence, they both kinda mean the same thing.
Would've private schooling been better?
I tend to wonder. Anybody has a straight answer?
Did private schooling, no gold stars for me either. Therefore it is safe to assume public and private are identical. The end.
Private schooling is not a bargain. Why pay for a substandard product when you can get it for free?
Whilst there is apparently not a huge divide between public and private schooling, I have read that one advantage that private schooling has is establishing a network of contacts/friends from wealthier families that may take you higher in later life. This probably works in several ways, wanting to better your career to be able to compete with your peers, but perhaps also being able to gain support or investment in your ideas/projects from your circle of friends and their network.
5tb wd red for 199 usd probably a better bet.. Toshiba reviews are pretty poor.
Dunno how amazon ships bare drives either
I'm also fearful of sending 3.5" drives through the post, let alone internationally. Even if your drive is not DOA it could still fail sooner due to the shipping. 2.5" drives (not to mention SSD) are not much of a problem because they are designed to be transported around in laptops, portable hard drives and the like.
HGST ones are fine I reckon as they are in retail boxes.
WD can be bought in retail box but you pay more.
Amazon ship in boxes with plenty of packaging protection inside of it. Will be no problems.
Wasn't impressed with the packaging of the Seagate 6TB's I recently bought from Amazon - they were suspended between a couple of wobbly plastic inserts, with no padding.
But these Toshiba 5TB's, which I bought in a previous Amazon deal, came in retail boxes with plenty of padding.
If a Seagate drive fails I really doubt damage from Amazon's packaging would be a noteworthy contributing factor. :P
The 6 5TB WD Red's sitting in my QNAP are all from Amazon USA and they haven't missed a beat so far. fingers crossed
@Jabba the Hutt:
Not sure about yours but those boxes are usually designed to take a beating and the drive in the box (while not powered, right?) can take a decent amount of Gs if dropped or the like. You're more likely to damage it after removing it from the packaging.
@Jabba the Hutt: This is how drives have been transported for years. Anti static bag inside a form of plastic clamshell.
It will be fine.
I saw a thread once about a guy trying to return his hard disk he bought in store as he and other contributors to his thread believed the anti-static bag wasn't sufficient packaging and that it may have been damaged in transit from the supplier to the vendor :/
Everyone should run a smart conveyance and extended test on their new HDDs as soon as they get them regardless of where/how they were purchased and if they fail contact the vendor for replacement.
Personally i don't think HDDs are as fragile as some seem to think they are and barring a 2 metre drop if a drive is going to fail its going to fail.
@stonkered: Abaddon andd Jabba both also mentioned plastic inserts were used in the shipment which is the component providing the padding, not that the hard drive was just wrapped in a bag. I'd expect issues if only an anti static bag was used, but if it's in a plastic shell it should be ok. If the plastics not overly rigid but holds its shape fairly well it'll likely dampen the shock quite adequately.
This is what Amazon used for the Seagate 6TB's:
http://i.imgur.com/bIwB1CN.jpg
Adequate? Probably. The HDD plonked down on the counter at an MSY is probably subjeted to a more severe shock than during shipment in this packaging. It's just more minimalist than what I'm used to, and quite a contrast to the retail Toshiba packaging or what manufacturers have traditionally recommended when shipping returns.
Yeah that's the point, these guys thought as the drives were handed to them in anti static in store, they must have been shipped to the store that way. Just something I found amusing :)
I bought 2 HGST 4TB drives from Amazon. They were very well packed, huge box for each drive with a lot of air bags inside.
Not sure how others will be packed though.
Are you calling me a no one? ;-)
no i r trollson
My experience with the brand has been pretty poor to date. As with all storage solutions YMMV
I have 3 of the 3TB versions and they have been working really well for 1.5 years in my NAS
The PH models (like this) are retail boxes containing DT01ACAXXX hard drives inside and come in fantastic foam packaging so no need to worry about damage in post.
Thanks. Was in the market for a new drive. Looks like solid price:performance.
Got this in the last posted deal…the speed…is not as advertised as far as I could tell.
My Seagate 2TB is supposedly also the same speed, yet the 2 doesn't encounter hiccups when using screen capture software, whereas the 5TB does…good for mass storage of files, but if you need decent write speeds, look elsewhere.
Like an ssd?
Well yeah, I've resorted to recording to the SSD, transferring when finished to the HDD. Not perfect, but it works.
I also have the 2TB and 5TB in RAID, so I can't choose where it saves currently.
Interesting, did you benchmark the 2?
How do you mean? Look it up or use 3rd party software to measure it?
The answer to both is no, but I can if you want me to/point me in the right direction?
Nah that's ok, thanks for offering though :)
price has gone down now to $144.99 :-)
I think you'll find he was including the $9.77 in delivery fees etc ;)
Shipping & handling: AUD 14.38
Seems like I'm better off just buying a 5TB WD Green locally for the same price
LOL
Or you can get this external drive for AUD199. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=10370…
Edit - Also available from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Desktop-External-HDWC25…
So what happens if a drive fails?
You would need to RMA through Amazon or Toshiba US is that right?
Not to diss the original deal, but Seagate 8Tb are about $100 more - http://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/seagate-archive-8tb-sa… - they have previously been as low as $290.
$309 @MSY. But that's an archive drive - has its limitations.
Read speeds are ok, it's the write speeds which are very average
Yes, just after I posted I realized it was a different type of drive - for a different target audience!!
I was considering these a while ago but I think they've got super poor read speeds.
I've got 4 of these in a raid - fairly noisy for a media centre setup but I've had no problem with them otherwise.
bought 4 for my new office, thanks!
How do you order of amazon? can you get it delivered straight from US to Australia? Is there a increased shipping cost? Thanks in advance for the help.
You click add to cart, enter your credit card and shipping address details then pay for it? This doesn't require forwarding agents or anything weird. It's just a normal listing so far as I can tell.
Only suggestion is, go with express shipping. The standard option goes via DHL Global Mail and they are unbelievably slow with very poor tracking information. The cost difference generally isn't extreme on a small item like a 3.5" HDD.
I own six of these
Hot
Noisy
Fail easily
Why buy 7200 hot drives which are 15% faster than a cool, quiet 5400rpm?
If you want speed, you put your speedy data on your SSD and you dump 5400s in your NAS for images, movies, music
I do not understand 7200rpm regular disks, now that SSDs exist, these things should go away.
SO HOT.
My NAS has a permanent fan pointed at it due to these drives.
Btw, I've returned 4 disks out of six in 14 months.
Sounds like you got some from a bad batch - likely from a box that was handled poorly during transit. Used to happen occasionally when I worked at a computer store - we'd get an unusually high number of a particular drive coming back and would trace it to a single delivery. Rotten luck mate :/
If you've been successful with ham, maybe try your hand at drive whispering?..
I'm waiting patiently, patiently patiently. (Praying, hoping, wishing) that this whole "super cheap, big dumb cheap" SSD thing happens in the next 36 months.
I hope to just replace them with 8TB big dumb cheapie, silent SSD's for under $300 US a drive, 3 years, please be within 3 years.
I hate spinning disks, noisy hot, electricity guzzling, moving part, garbage. (and I've had hard drives in my PC for literally 25 years)
Gross things
What do you do with your computer that gets them so hot?
I have never seen my HDDs go above 35, compared to my SSD's 30…
@The Gent: It's inside a NAS which means closer together and 24/7 - besides, they are poorly designed 7200's - yours might not get over 35 but 7200's can get higher.
https://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf
That's still the best available info on drive temp and failure rate.
Since writing this message, disk #5 of 6 has failed. Luckily "Tecs" in Melbourne have been surprisingly good at replacing them.
I have several Toshiba 3TB for about 2 years now and they are/have been fantastic drives! It sounds like these 5TB are different/dodgy???
The 3TB drives are actually rebranded hitachi drives
Is that a good thing?
Yes Hitachi have an excellent history of quality and reliability. Is it the DT01ACA300 you have? I have 3 of those in my NAS running beautifully!
Yep thats it. I have 3 of those… they were great value for money at one stage… might even still be!
love the self-depreciating humour.