Australia Post and "Attempted Deliveries" by Contract Drivers

I saw this on reddit recently and thought buyers here might appreciate some of the trials and tribulations of those who try to deliver the OzBargainer's eneloops.

Delivery driver (non postal but anyhow) here:
The vehicles will have a GPS tracker fitted. Routes are worked out by computer, the company can't push the drivers to speed so they push unrealistic handling times.
30 seconds for a house, 2 minutes for an apartment complex including parking is on the very generous end.
It just doesn't work out in real life. Signage is a killer, you need to spot the street number from the road while keeping your eyes on the road. Not driving around looking for it, you need to spot it first time on approach. Maybe 10-20% of places have clear enough numbers. Untrimmed bushes, uncollected junk-mail, cars parked in front of the letterbox/fence & numbers of a similar colour tone as their background (i.e black numbers on a grey/brown background) will all keep that from happening.
Next along is whether you're in a house or an apartment complex. Apartment complexes are notorious, on top of buildings being 'named' rather than 'numbered' to flatter prospective tenants there's a frequent lack of relevant signage about either visitor parking or entrance location or unit position in the majority of places & no standard method of assigning unit numbers. More often than not they will not proceed in logical order.
Before you can even get to this there's often multi-layered security. Buzzer at the gate to the complex, buzzer at the entrance to the building within the complex, buzzer for the elevator. It's a double edged sword trying to get someone's attention. The worst thing that can happen is to get the attention of someone who dawdles. Then it's either 'they left when I said I was coming down' or 'they were rude and pushy'. You cannot force people to hurry up from outside. You can never explain to people in time politely 'please just say what level you're on & buzz me in' since you can jog up faster than they want to walk. Every single day there are people who can't work out how to buzz the door open or allow the elevator to come up. Who tap the buzzer instead of holding it. Every single day there are unmaintained buzzers (it makes the 'buzz' sound but won't unlock) & intercoms (they can hear you but you can't hear them is a great one. 'I told him I was coming down, he just acted like I wasn't there!').
Stairs would be great but you can't rely on the internal ones being able to be opened from the outside, frequently they're only there as fire escapes, a way to get down or if you've got a key. The amount of time you spend waiting for an elevator is again more often than not more time that you're allowed in total.
Any lack of signage or barrier to access gives the driver a reason to give to their boss when asked why they left a card.
The best thing I can advise short of calling for legislation about signage (which will additionally benefit people like Ambulance drivers) or talking to the property manager where you live is to leave delivery instructions on the box in shorthand.
'Park onsite, bldg @ back via stairs going up on right, unit on far left around cnr. My-phone-number-here.' is a good example.
Authorisation to leave without signature can help with many companies. You probably want to put 'Cheap, replaceable' next to it if that's the case.

Contract delivery drivers piss me off.

A review of Australia Post's delivery contractors has found the company did not know what subcontracted post and parcel deliverers were being paid by delivery contractors.
It was commissioned after one of the company's major delivery contractors was raided and charged by the AFP over an alleged immigration racket, and also followed a series of reports by 7.30 which exposed widespread under-award payments to subcontracted post and parcel delivery drivers, and the use of foreign student labour.

Australia Post has no oversight of subcontractor wages, Ken Lay review finds

tl;dr sub-contracting -> attempts to suppress wages/working conditions -> increase productivity/efficiency -> increase in worker stress -> inevitably, corners have to be cut to meet targets -> delivery people leave a card instead of knockin' on yo' door

I would like to nominate Contractor and Sub-Contractor as the most popular word of 2016 as more cases of worker abuse, below minimum wage jobs, and foreign student/tourist/worker abuse comes to light. Contractor is just a euphemism for "double benefit of workers being paid less and we having plausible deniability" in my eyes.

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Comments

  • +4

    Great post

    • Nice comment.

  • And this is why I have packages sent to my offices. Will always be Auspost themselves and not a contractor.

    • My company has said we aren't entitled to use our receptionists for accepting personal deliveries, but it's the only system that actually works.

  • +3

    Since we are ranting about AusPost, I will chip in my most recent experiance.

    I receive an email from the retailer, tell me I should have received my parcel by now and hope that I enjoy the goods.
    I have not received anything so did a track and trace and it is at the depot after a failed attempt at delivery in the afternoon.

    The address is for my office and there is always someone at reception. There is no way that there is a failed attempt. We get auspost parcels delivery daily to the company.

    Things can go wrong for many reason. Trying to help customers resolve these problems it a hallmark of good customer service.
    I am not concern about fault finding, only problem resolution. AusPost fails badly at helping their customer resolve problems.

    They cannot get a second delivery. I have to collect it from the depot. There is NO other way around it.
    It is extremely hard for me to get to the depot because it is in a very inconvenient location and my transport is by cycling.
    After 30 mins on the phone. the end result is. They will put in an enquiry. Meantime, please feel free to collect it from the depot.

  • +1

    I got an email for my purchase from COTD of a pair of shoe, estimated delivery last Wednesday, have not received it as at today. On the other hand, bought a torchlight after the COTD purchase, shipped from HK and I received it yesterday. AustPost delivery time is really inconsistent, both are shipped about same time and you would expect a domestic delivery will be faster than an overseas one.

  • I would like to nominate Contractor and Sub-Contractor as the most popular word of 2016 as more cases of worker abuse

    Not exactly related… In an old company of mine, we had a stellar safety record. Near zero incidents. Any incident sparked a major investigation and so on and so forth. So what about all the jobs that had an inherent risk involved? Policy was to subcontract it so that any injury that resulted wasn't to staff…

    • +1

      Auditor: How's H&S in your company?
      Company: 100% perfect, buddy! Not a single workplace related injury! We look after all our employees!
      Auditor: Is that so? Well, let's have a look at your books. By the way, I ain't your buddy.
      Company: No problem, buddy! See for yourself!
      Auditor: Based on what I just read, this company does appear to have a stellar safety record.
      Company: I told ya, buddy!
      Auditor: But uhh, I do know for a fact that your company subcontracts some of your work. And due to poor regulation, some of the employees of the subcontractor have died from various reasons including but not limited to dehydration, lack of safety equipment, AIDs and drop bears.
      Company: "Our company has a stellar safety record" is still a technically valid and true statement though buddy!
      Auditor: sighs For the last time, I ain't your buddy. And stop speaking with excessive exclamation marks, it makes you look shady and sketchy, even though you are.

  • +3

    I just use their parcels lockers now, higher chance of it actually been delivered

    • I've used them quite a bit, so my average if getting better. I started with 0/2 though. It's a very flawed system.

      • +1

        I have used the parcel locker 4/4 times delivered. Works well with ebay parcels and local deliveries.

  • +3

    Interesting. These scammers make me so mad. My mother has seen the couriers not even bother to ring the door bell -just drop the card in the letter box "delivery attempted" then we have to waste our time going to the post office to collect. I tried to complain to the post office but they fobbed me off and said i needed to send a formal letter of complaint. Next time I will.

    • +2

      I don't like that at all, and if they are even knocking it's stupid. I work delivery (not Australia Post), and honestly it's more of a pain when people aren't home. You have to fill out a card, tag their package for redelivery, file it correctly when you get back to the depot. Just easier and faster to have someone answer the damn door and give the package to them.

    • +1

      Exactly the same thing happened to me! Their reason is that the post-person is not allowed to get off the bike to deliver to the door. Wtf why do they bring parcels then?

    • I feel for the delivery guy. Like the op quoted, they're working under pressure. I was home one day and when the door bell rang I went to door and saw parcel there and guy was almost back to his truck. I called out "cheers mate" and he gave me a wave. All good. Even when they're leaving cards, it's more efficient to be filling in card as soon as door bell rung - can't expect them to ring 3 times, wait around in case we're just on our way home etc.

      It's the system that doesn't work, not the delivery guys.

  • +1

    The worst ones are when they don't even bother leaving a card. I was lucky with one parcel that sat at the PO until the staff member found my mobile number on the box and rang me. Otherwise they were going to return it to sender the next day. On the other side of the coin, I ordered something from Perth yesterday afternoon and got it today via Toll.

    • +2

      Parcel lockers will reduce the need for contractor delivery guys. Its so easy to use and free, just register and have access to the parcel 24 hours a day with a passcode. No need to wait at post office 9-5.

  • Well at least I haven't heard of many people not receiving parcels unlike some of the companies in America which then sell off unclaimed products (no doubt they are left undelivered here too).

    Still have problems with them not ringing our doorbell for our gates when clearly there is someone home (car in carport).
    But it's not as inconvenient for us. Just have to wait in line with ask the other people collecting their mail that was also undelivered like ours.

    • That's happened to me plenty. I receive a notification to say parcel has been collected and in transit. After a couple of weeks, I contact seller who tells me Aus Post was "supposed" to have collected it but didn't, and had to put new one in post. It's a flawed system - it should be AUs Post who scans that parcel has been collected, not the seller.

  • +5

    Just a reminder that this thread was intended to be sympathetic to the people who deliver parcels to your door, and to get their perspective. It is not intended to be a run-out-of-the-mill delivery parcel guy who doesn't knock whinge thread.

    • +1

      It's hard for me to be sympathetic when they don't attempt to knock NOR bother to put attempted delivery cards in mail box.

    • Sympathy for those who choose to work in a skewed "service" that's being tarted-up for full privatisation?

      Look, the goalposts have been shifted, no doubt. There was much crowing about the Auspost parcel service making record profits just a few years ago. I believe it peaked when AUD was strongest, and OzB members are partly to thank for the increased work.

      But then we hear sob-stories of losses in their letter mail division :'(

      They didn't have anyone in forward planning who could foresee that?
      They couldn't renegotiate international treaties?
      They weren't around in the early 90s when SMS and emails kicked off?
      They couldn't keep pace with readily available per capita sales data for Australian mobile phone uptake?
      And the subsequent mass migration to smart phones?

      That's curious, as they've been selling phones for years! What did they think; we'd buy all these phones and not use the SMS, IM or email capability?

      No, it was mismanaged and therefore ill-equipped to deal with "digital disruption". Their only response is to jack up prices while degrading what used to be a reasonably priced service. I'm all for a user-pay system, but I don't like being taken for a mug with rip-off prices, delays, lost items or rude staff.

      • full privatisation
        forward planning
        mismanaged
        jack up prices
        used to be a reasonably priced service
        etc

        All valid complaints no doubt, that the CEO of AusPost should be responsible for and should answer to. I'd expect nothing less from a "hard-working" and "intelligent" CEO that makes millions each year.

        However, I doubt that the contract delivery drivers have any say in the matter on how things should be run and how things can be improved.

  • +2

    I would be sympathetic if they actually tried to do their job at least for my area.

    Story Time:
    This is a common scenario for me and this happened just today:

    Check online tracking: 8:33am On board for delivery.
    I'll try get back and be at home if not I'll pick it up no biggie.
    Get back home around 3pm check tracking no update yet, here I am thinking cool he hasn't attempted delivery yet.

    4:50pm still no attempt so I think maybe he forgot to log an attempt and check for card, no card; so I head to post office since it closes at 5pm and every card I get so far has always been pick up after 4pm.
    Nothing at the Post office but I see a AusPost truck sitting outside with the guy chilling inside and I think nothing of it he could be picking up mail to deliver next day.
    Check my tracking nothing updated.
    Get home.
    Check my mailbox no card.
    Get an email notification 5pm that he attempted delivery at 4:23pm and left my package at 4:37pm at the Post Office which makes zero sense, since I was just there.
    Makes me think the guy chilling their was just doing his paperwork on his gps thing so he can say he 'attempted delivery'.

    My block is well kept no overgrowth, we have a clear signage for couriers for where each block is, I always get street number close to my block and always indicate block number.

    AusPost laziest drivers I swear they're lucky they have a huge network of Post offices to pick up from.

    IMO Best to worst courier companies:
    1. DHL, FedEx, TNT, UPS.
    2. AusPost and their subsideries StarTrack etc(Just cause of all their post offices)
    3. Toll
    4. CourierPlease

    • +1

      Don't forget Officeworks parcel delivery service. From my experience so far, it's a top notch.

  • +2

    I considered becoming an AP contractor once. These guys start work at 4am (or earlier) and are lucky to be on the road by 6am and can wind up their work day anytime between 2:30pm and 6:30pm. I went out on the job with one of the drivers and it is a very busy day. Lunch break consisted of drive through McDonalds, consumed in between deliveries. I was told this was one of the easier routes. I was offered a more difficult route and declined, mostly because I didn't want to buy a van.

    I used to live in the edge of Sydney and our guy was really nice and didn't seem to rush through the job because he saw no benefit in making his day more stressful than it already was. He simply looked for a better, less stressful job and eventually got one.

    Currently I live in Canberra in an apartment building and the AP contractor has never once rang the intercom and only leaves a calling card. Someone is almost always home, so we have complained numerous times and still the same thing happened. Every single other courier company rings the intercom and I rush down as quickly as possible. We now have a PO Box.

    I have lived in the States because and I know USPS bleeds money but they have such a good system there. The post men deliver mail and packages in small delivery trucks and in my experience they rarely seem too rushed or stressed out.

    • I haven't lived in the US, but know this from watching The King of Queens back in the day. Not the current repeats.

      Pretty sure Doug worked for "IPS" though.

  • bring on the drones.

    how is that going to work????

    • Hmmm facial/biometric recognition?

  • My approach with parcels is that anything that is potentially affected by heat, e.g. wine, we get delivered to my other half's work; everything else we are happy to get delivered to the door and pick up from the PO drop off if missed. As both of us work we generally pick things up, however, we then arrange our schedules to either get in a bit later or leave work a bit earlier. I've had a couple of things that didn't arrive or were damaged but, overall, my delivery experience has been positive. My personal preferece is, where possible, to use click and collect. That way it is the stores responsiblity right up until I get the goods in my grubby mitts. There is always the feeling of "will these guys really deliver", when you order something online.

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