Very disappointed at ozb admin treating new register business with geniune deals

syswong on 15/10/2015 - 07:13
Last edited 15/10/2015 - 07:45

As a member of one of city's leading tech co-work space, We all spoke very high of OZB. This change yesterday.

I recommended a new company who has put together a very attractive deal on your community. It was quoted "spam" in seconds. Then the founder try to communicate with mod and explain how different the deal was. Only to get an reply from mod saying that, the deal is same as some other people without even understanding the value of what this deal has provided.

For the record the example mod quoted is like comparing a Toyota to a Benz. The kind of pricing offer from that level of professional does not exist in the market. May be mod is correct that the deal is not suitable here because if mods can't understand the value, don't think its members will. Google WPPI rising star and see how much these people charge and mod will see what kind of a deal this community has missed out.

One more thing, we work in the number 1 tech co-work space in city So we are not stupid and fully aware you site has ghost detection system. The founder's account was banned as ghost because she was trying to show me her discussion with OZB on my phone while her phone is out of battery. Of course your ghost detection system will think she is me…….WELL DONE

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  • chumlee on 15/10/2015 - 07:18
    +71

    Check out the Coles bargains posted here. Maybe they have half price box of tissues.

  • pyramid on 15/10/2015 - 07:23
    +13

    Thanks for ranting. You better do talk to moderator instead of crying here.

  • pyramid on 15/10/2015 - 07:24
    +11

    I dont like reguster business.

  • [Deactivated] on 15/10/2015 - 07:35
    +17

    One of city's leading tech co-work space?

    a new reguster business with geniune deals?

    TIP: Insulting the members of a forum isn't going to endear you to us.

    Check out Bunnings - they might have a special on "Harden-Up".

      • Settero on 15/10/2015 - 07:55
        +11

        saying that we can not understand a deal.

        • try2bhelpful on 15/10/2015 - 09:06
          +19

          @syswong: and that comment lost you any good will you might have left

        • PJC on 15/10/2015 - 10:47
          +11

          @syswong: That clinches it for me. Saying we cannot understand a deal when the initial rant contains so many errors, but subsequently demonstrating fluency in sarcasm.

  • dasher86 on 15/10/2015 - 07:38
    +8

    if you cannot properly communicate the deal within the guidelines of the community then how are the mods meant to see value?
    How are regular users going to see value?
    keep it simple and highlight what makes it a deal and understand what makes something spam.

    • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 07:43
      -8

      The deal was very clear. The initial reason of removal was because mod said it a photo/wedding deal. Founder attempt to communicate only to slap with examples that is "second class citizen"

      • altomic on 15/10/2015 - 08:25
        +10

        The 4 hours of photography for $995 deal? Post the details in this forum post anfd get some members feedback. Other wise it really sounds like you are having a whinge.

        • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 09:26
          -5

          You are spot on……

          As much as she were enthusiastic about OZB 12 hours ago, that's no longer the case, After the saga last night and the way she see how this discussion has pan out.

          Like @Baysew say below, it could be worse if the deal was publish.

        • altomic on 15/10/2015 - 09:47
          +3

          @syswong:what was her regular rate for 4 hours?

        • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 11:14

          @altomic: I think their wedding starts at 4K per 10 hours. that is excluding the dress and make up.

          So 4 hour would be 1.6K and then 1 dress hire and 1 make up. So normally would be 2K? so its like 50% off, also high end WPPI/AIPP don't usually do 4 hour session.

          Above is all my guessing as I don't have the detail numbers.

  • dasher86 on 15/10/2015 - 07:48
    +3

    maybe yourself or a mod would like to re-post what was posted?
    then we can get an understand with what your issues are.

  • ESEMCE on 15/10/2015 - 07:50
    +22

    Is this something to do with Wedding Photography?
    If so, the "value" is very much overinflated, and subsequently the "saving" is too.
    We don't accept self promotion here unless the deal is really good.

    You have not helped the cause OP.
    Mods have full support from this long time member of the community.

      • ESEMCE on 15/10/2015 - 08:07
        +8

        When you find a good AMG deal, feel free to post it here. Haven't seen one in 10 years or so!
        And no, the price on an object is far more easily measured than the price on a service, so I think your AMG similie is not a good one.

        Finally, you can make all the excuses in the world, the fact is you either did, or at the very least appeared to, game the system on an already sketchy deal.

        • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 08:16

          "When you find a good AMG deal, feel free to post it here. Haven't seen one in 10 years or so!"

          They don't need one, why they want to do a deal when their waiting list is 9 months to a year?

        • ESEMCE on 15/10/2015 - 08:30
          +23

          @syswong:

          Why does your expensive photographer friend need to offer a deal then?
          If the service was as good as you say, he/she should have a waiting list like an AMG… to use your example.

          The only conclusion I can come to is that his/her prices are inflated, therefore the deal is actually not nearly as good as what was promoted and therefore the mods were justified in their decision.
          Glad we could work all this out for you!

        • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 08:43
          -6

          @scubacoles: Too much free time, trial new styles… god know why they are doing it cos they don't even make money out of it. Its not my business to poke into other people's business. I only recommended the OZB platform.

        • djones145 on 15/10/2015 - 08:51
          +5

          @syswong:
          photography is a very personal thing

          capturing wedding photo's is one of the most important things in ur life

          I would not want to find recommendations on ozbargain for something like that (where its all about the lowest price!)
          word of mouth, review of photo portfolios is what I would do

          the person I used I have recommended to 5 of my close friends, who all used him, but they liked his style and him as a person

          my photographer charged 3.5k for a days work (over 12 hours) had 2 photographers, 1 video guy, includes an album and provides all the raws the next day (rare for photographers). he also only takes a small deposit, half a few days before wedding and rest once he delivers the album

          he's also a good bloke, easy to chat do but very slow in getting things done! lolz

        • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 09:21

          @djones145: Good on him…..

          If he is still doing it this way when he won a WPPI/AIPP award, please let me know. My colleague will have him working 365 days a year :P

        • djones145 on 15/10/2015 - 09:35
          +14

          @syswong:
          lol, if you friend is anything like you, I wouldn't want him as a photographer

          if I have someone barking orders at me for 12 hours on my most important day of my life, I would want to be with someone who easy to work with

          with the way you have been acting in this topic and him being ur friend (prolly similar minded), I think after a few minutes I would want to punch him in the face LOLZ

        • spackbace on 15/10/2015 - 11:30
          +3

          @scubacoles:

          Why does your expensive photographer friend need to offer a deal then?
          If the service was as good as you say, he/she should have a waiting list like an AMG… to use your example.

          This, so much this!

        • djones145 on 15/10/2015 - 12:06
          +7

          @syswong:

          WPPI and AIPP are so 2014, in 2015 you need to be top voted deal on ozbargain to make it anywhere!

  • phoenixx on 15/10/2015 - 08:14
    +9

    Oh the self importance. What exactly are you tying to achieve with your post here?

  • Axelstrife on 15/10/2015 - 08:23
    +6

    I believe tissues at Aldi are under a dollar.

  • djones145 on 15/10/2015 - 08:41
    +9

    "one of city's leading tech co-work space"

    LOL

    meh i'm part of the planet's leading tech co-work space

    take that!

  • Cheeper on 15/10/2015 - 08:49
    +11

    syswong…
    The people that own and maintain any website have the right to decide what appears on there and justly so.
    If they have refused your post then that is their right. I can also understand your plight…
    As someone has already mentioned… post the details of your offer in here so it can be discussed and maybe you will get more of an indication as to why it may or may not be considered a bargain.
    This site is for listing "bargains" not just for free advertising.

  • Baysew on 15/10/2015 - 09:02
    +9

    Founder attempt to communicate only to slap with examples that is "second class citizen"

    There are many positives to look at.
    Better to be slapped down as SPAM, rather than have the deal posted and shredded by jv

    • syswong on 15/10/2015 - 09:18

      That is the exactly opinion after she was looking at mod's reply and more important this post.

      • Mikinoz on 15/10/2015 - 09:49
        +2

        Are you sure it wasnt interpreted as something else, by what you have written at times it can be hard to understand your point. Perhaps it was the same with the mods response ie it wasnt interpreted the way it may have been written

  • Moderatorscotty on 15/10/2015 - 09:51

    @syswong — I'll investigate this. However regarding to wedding photo / design related deals it can be very difficult for the community to put a value on. We have similar deals in the past that ended up being rubbished by the community in the comments which put the business in a worse situation. The mods might have tried to stop it pre-emptively (and saving us problem trying to convince the merchants that we are not going to unpublish a page full of discussion already).

  • Austin 316 on 15/10/2015 - 10:46
    +20

    I can't even make sense of some of your comments posted here…. how the hell are the mods supposed to make sense of your deal !!

    • Baysew on 15/10/2015 - 11:59
      +4

      And that's the bottom line.

    • djones145 on 15/10/2015 - 12:10
      +3

      hows this
      my friend, who works with me in the worlds number on tech share space site in Sydney, who is fully sick and is world renown and won many many awards (too many to mention), needs free advertising on a aus bargain site and drop prices, cause he is fully sick and nice, even though he can charge millions as he is fully sick and international award winner

  • Moderatorneil on 15/10/2015 - 10:53

    Just to clear things up the deal offered was:

    4 Hour pre-wedding photo by one of the WPPI world top 30 rising star 2014, for under $1000!!

    However, in the case of 99% of wedding photo deals posted on OzBargain, they do very poorly. Many times this results in please take down the deal, which per our FAQ we don't remove deals just because they receive poor feedback.

    Thus, we came up with a list of business types who we strongly recommend not posting (also in the FAQ):

    Services:

    Web Design
Car sales websites
Auto Mechanic servicing
Discount Facebook advertising
Photo shoots
**Wedding related items**
SEO services

    Products:

    Jewellery
Expensive mobile phone cases
Expensive HDMI cables

    It's mostly due to the difficulty of comparing like with like.

    We made 2 comments, 1 copying and pasting the FAQ as I did above and the other further explaining why it's not suitable for OzBargain plus pointing out the ghost account. In the 2 paragraphs of conversations, there was no mention of 2nd class citizen (whatever that is).

    EDIT: Changed title to original title post.
    EDIT 2: Removed link.

      • phocus on 15/10/2015 - 11:56
        +41

        Sweet mother of God. Can you stop posting? Im pretty sure you are are doing more harm than good. If anyone googles for her business for a review, this thread might come up thus giving her a bad name.

        You are ruining her livelyhood

      • pyramid on 15/10/2015 - 12:03
        +3

        I think you or your colleague should stop posting here. Looks like people here do not understand your feelings/rant/humor/common sense wt ever.

        Why do you fighting her case here. Don't post their deals here if you don't like feedback. Period.

      • ChrisLevo on 15/10/2015 - 12:17
        +4

        "She feels mod comparing her Art Director who is a WPPI top 30 rising star 2014 to some like SYDPHOTO is just not adequate."

        Just not adequate?
        Probably the funniest post to date.

        Can you see what's in the brackets ()?
        It's the world's smallest violin……

    • spackbace on 15/10/2015 - 11:29
      +8

      You're ruining the OP's sensationalist rant there neil, stop it, you're making too much sense ;)

  • colinjames on 15/10/2015 - 12:25
    +7

    Between @syswong's posts and the website itself the grammatical errors make it difficult to determine what you mean often. Given that I have to presume your intention so often it is very easy for miscommunication to happen. That would be a problem for a service such as photography, so I would not us your service.

    4 hours with Pooma shooting himself for that price would be a bargain. Pooma residing in Beijing could be a slight problem with that deal thoug. Unless you timed it with a wedding you are bringing to Australia and tacked the bargain on afterwards making it a limited availability deal unsuitable for posting here.

    The website quoted rates are from aud$2195 for a 7 hour session including wedding makeup and couture, making a 4 hour session at $1000 close to the standard rate. At least the part of the website declaring that you do not offer discounts maintains some integrity now, so it is not all bad for Penny.

  • Moderatorscotty on 15/10/2015 - 12:26

    @syswong — I have replied the TWAM, unbanned the account & the domain. However I have also left some examples of previous wedding photography deals, where most of them weren't received well by the community. It is now up to your friend to decide whether they want post the offer again.

    I shall also close this thread as it has degraded to attacking the OP.

    Here is also a reminder for other users — if you think somehow you have been wronged by the mods, keep the discussions in the TWAM, as sometimes it might take a while to resolve the misunderstanding. Bring the discussion to public forum might not be the best way to do it and might have some undesirable outcome.

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