Council Parking Tickets and Refunds

I saw an article headline today on the heraldsun.com.au site on something to do with the timing discrepancies by the underground sensors that Melbourne City Council use. I didn’t get to read the article itself because I’m not a subscriber and can’t read the “premium content”.

It did get me thinking though… the rule is you can only occupy the parking spot for up to the amount of time specified by the signage, regardless of the time your ticket expires.
Where a ticket is issued based on the sensors’ timing rather than the expiry time in the ticket, has anyone thought of asking the council to refund the portion of the ticket that is unused?

For example, if you arrive in a “1P” parking spot at 3:00pm and you pay for your ticket at 3:15pm (could be due to unloading your child and prams or for whatever reason for the 15 minutes), the sensor will trigger some sort of notification to the parking guy at 4:00pm, who will in turn issue a fine (let’s just say that he was super efficient and issued the ticket at exactly 4:00pm). In this case, there is 15 minutes remaining on the ticket that cannot be used.
If I look at it from a service point of view, no service is being provided for those 15 minutes that have already been paid for and the parking fine shows the exact time that the ticket has became invalid.

The other dodgey thing I think is, the parking meters that accept money regardless of the time and signs - even during free parking periods. With most things, if someone accepted payment, I would assume that a product/service will be provided or a refund is due. Why does this not apply to councils?

Comments

  • The other dodgey thing I think is, the parking meters that accept money regardless of the time and signs - even during free parking periods

    on the other hand, if you parked there and the sensor was broken. You'd be pretty frustrated if the machine refused to take your money and you had to repark. I suppose it's also "future proofing" if in case they have "happy hours" of free parking.

    has anyone thought of asking the council to refund the portion of the ticket that is unused

    this should be the case, it's free money so i doubt they ever will though

    • on the other hand, if you parked there and the sensor was broken. You'd be pretty frustrated if the machine refused to take your money and you had to repark.

      The sensors I'm referring to are the ones that have been put into the road itself.. it detects when there's a vehicle in the parking spot. It's not linked to the parking meter at all. If those sensors were broken, the Ranger simply wouldn't be notified when the time limit is up - or worse, they'll issue incorreect fines.

      What I'm trying to say is, the meters should be programmed with the times that payment is and isn't required.
      If I remember correctly, Sydney had meters that would not accept money during the free parking times.

  • If I look at it from a service point of view, no service is being provided for those 15 minutes that have already been paid for and the parking fine shows the exact time that the ticket has became invalid.

    Imo, for those 15mins, a 'service' was provided. You were provided with a safe spot to legally unload your pram or whatever you needed to do. Would you do 15mins worth of pram unloading etc on a busy, no standing road? even loading zones are 10mins max from memory.

    What if it took you half an hour, or an hour to unload?

    • Imo, for those 15mins, a 'service' was provided.

      You're right and I agree with you about the first 15 minutes, but when you go to pay for an hour at the machine at 3:15pm and you can only park until 4:00pm, you're ticket will say that you can park until 4:15. It's the 15 minutes at the end that I'm referring to. The council should either go by the time that the sensor counts (and make that clear and visible) or go by the time on the ticket that's been paid for.

      btw.. I was just using 15 minutes as an example… hopefully noone really takes that long to unload a pram.

      The grace period that Melbourne City Council gives is 5 minutes after the permitted time - this is timed by the sensor on the road, regardless of what the parking ticket says.

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