WTB Lancer EVO X

Lancerx on 27/08/2015 - 23:58
Last edited 28/08/2015 - 11:31

Hi all,

Turning 30 soon, so thought of rewarding myself with an EVO X. Probably still a little out of my budget in getting brand new one, so 08-10 model probably more realistic? Not in rush to buy, so anything with good value in the market in the next 12 months is preferable. Will probably replace my current CJ Lancer ES as an every day car (not decided if selling).

Now, I'm not a pro evo guy, in fact I never own an evo before (wanting, but no money before) , so I don't know really know "value" when I see one. Hoping you guys could help spot a good buy in the market within a budget of around $30k. Unfortunately automatic is a must, as my wife will be sharing the car and she's not very confident in driving manual, and I must admit I haven't drove manual car for little while now, and not really keen driving manual in everyday freeway traffic. Not looking to finance, so instant money transfer/cash is possible with private seller too. Appreciate some evo enthusiasts advice into what to look for & what not to.. thanks for your help in advance!

P/S leaning towards white one atm

Automotive Mitsubishi

Comments

  • andyyle on 28/08/2015 - 03:18
    +1

    do not buy <MY10. gearbox issues which cost >$6000 to replace.

    • nocure on 28/08/2015 - 09:29

      Manual or auto or both

    • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 11:29
      +1

      hmm…this might blow out the budget a bit…guess I could always ask if they replace the gearbox recently..

  • nocure on 28/08/2015 - 09:30
    +4

    Unfortunately automatic is a must,

    Very unfortunate.

    • Scorpiogirl on 28/08/2015 - 16:32
      +2

      Lol thinking same. Just not the same at all.

    • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 17:04
      +1

      Actually the dual-clutch in these would shift faster than you could shift gear.

      Automatic gearboxes are the way of the future. It's gonna happen soon that you'll struggle to get a manual.

      • nocure on 28/08/2015 - 17:14
        +10

        It's not about the speed of the shift it's about the driving experience you can only get with a manual.

        • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 17:15
          +3

          Fair call, but fact remains it's a dying thing!

          And unless you're doing burnouts, the semi-auto mode on these is far more fun that a manual :)

        • Scorpiogirl on 28/08/2015 - 17:23
          +4

          You got it again. An automatic is just not fun and you do not get the control of the car period. Just does not even compare. With your average car it's not such a biggy but in these kind, your experience is completely different in a manual.

        • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 17:32
          +2

          @Scorpiogirl:

          This is a track car, not a drift car, so 'flappy paddles' are very effective.

          Seen a supercar lately with a 'stick shift'? Nope.

          Double-clutch gearboxes are about acceleration/deceleration. Manuals are about lighting up the rear wheels and holding a gear.

          Hell even the V8 supercars use a sequential gearbox. (With a dog box, so kinda inbetween the 2 actually)

        • Scorpiogirl on 28/08/2015 - 19:19
          +1

          @Spackbace: I think you missed my point which was simply about control and handling of some cars. Not all. I didn't actually mention all that you did. Interesting as it was.

          I was simply expressing that i understood what nocure means. If that was what he meant? Some cars are just not the same being driven as an auto as they are in a manual. Eg) A Subaru. Don't know anyone who would go auto unless they had to. My opinion no one elses. Personal preference.

        • Handsoff on 29/08/2015 - 15:55

          @Spackbace: Also keep in mind that clutch feel in manual varies from car to car, even in cars of same year and model. Some provide more feedback others take skill to get the car rolling. This is the feedback we're talking about. There's not much feel or feedback through a flappy paddle.

        • captobvious on 29/08/2015 - 20:05
          +5

          i love the stick shift even in traffic. the only time its an inconvenience is when trying to eat 30cent cones from the maccas drive through and then you shift and the icecream gets all over the head unit and into the buttons and a real pain to clean.

        • x d on 30/08/2015 - 18:42

          @Spackbace:

          "This is a track car"

          Agree with this completely. If you are tracking this car (which if you are buying one and not track it - then there are better alteratives as the car is a bit on the heavy side and the turbo doesn't really give you good thrush until about 2500 rpm) then the SST will give you better lap times.

          I have a MY08 EVO X GSR SST from new and initially with the trackdays, I would change the gears myself with the paddles. However later sessions I experimented with the Supersport mode and let the computer do its stuff and it was amazing, getting the right gear as you brake for the corner and keeping the gear through it.

          Do I miss driving a manual? For the road I do as I came from a MX-5 manual soft top, but for the majority of the daily grind, the SST is great for traffic (and on light throttle, the upchange is almost imperceptible)

          I would not recommend an automatic if it was not a dual clutch (ie the old tech torque converter autos) on a sport car as the shift and connection to the drive is not instantaneous, which takes away some of the sporting feel. I would also recommend going for the manual version of this car if you are seriously planning for heavy modding as the SST is not as strong.

          If you do get this car however, the AWD balance and ability of this car around good twisty corners (and please don't try this on public road) is absolutely astounding despite its heft (and as I said I came from an MX-5 which is praised widely for its balance, control and chuckability).

          Cheers.

        • Kkuba on 01/09/2015 - 16:39

          @Spackbace:

          Disagree.

          One of my best friends recently went from a manual 86, to a DSG Golf R. I was disappoint.

          Yes it shifts fast, but where is the fun? Why is it more fun to have less involvement? Not saying his car is not fun, just less fun.

          Would it be even more fun if the box selected gears itself? What if the steering or throttle/braking was automatic too? You can see where I'm going with this.

          Personally (maybe because I'm an engineer), I love the feeling of selecting a gate, and sliding the shifter into it. Feeling the synchros do their work, in a fraction of a second, then cogs finally engage as the shifter hits the end point of the gate. Then letting the clutch out, at just the right rate, using just enough throttle to keep the revs at exactly the right spot.

          Also, I find it so much more interesting, even when not 'caning' it, on my long commute to work. So much more engaging. Otherwise (in an auto) I feel like I am sitting in a lounge chair, playing traffic simulator on PS3 with a steering wheel.

        • x d on 01/09/2015 - 23:26

          @Kkuba: "Also, I find it so much more interesting, even when not 'caning' it, on my long commute to work"

          Just out of curiosity, how long do you spend in peak hour stop start traffic on your way to work? And I am not talking about coming up to a red light, but getting stuck in say a freeway, inching along at maybe 30 tops and then stopping when the flow stops?

          Is your friend disappointed also and regretted getting the DSG?

          Agree with you though with a good manual (you wouldn't want to drive a manual if it felt like driving a truck), the heel and toe downshifts coming to a corner is something everyone would enjoy if done well. What do you think about the newer cars with rev matching features on manual transmission on downshifts?

          Cheers.

      • Scorpiogirl on 28/08/2015 - 17:26
        +1

        Automatic will be more common because people can't drive and because of the convenience. In cities manuals don't sell well for obvious reasons.

        • nocure on 28/08/2015 - 17:38
          +2

          And now there's an easy way out with auto only licenses …I will keep my manual thanks.

        • tonyjzx on 28/08/2015 - 17:46
          -1

          cant be bothered looking it up but i believe the current EVO X is 5 spd man. or 6 spd DSG

          get the DSG…its what the car was designed around and i love manual

  • jaykay on 28/08/2015 - 09:53

    the dual clutches on the autos go bad very very quickly

  • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 10:48
    +1

    Not in rush to buy, so anything with good value in the market in the next 12 months is preferable.

    So why do you want us to check the market right now??

    • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 11:25

      Well, if anything good comes around..I'm happy to splash the cash. 12 months just my max time frame..

      • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 11:39

        Just keep a look out on Carsales/Gumtree. Only you know what ticks your boxes.

        Hell even a Ralliart Lancer might suit you just fine and get newer for your money. I think these stopped production last year, but still might find some floating around in dealers, get the full 5/10 warranty.

        • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 11:56

          Nah..if I wanna splash, might as well go the EVO..I always wanted an evo anyway

          But honestly I'm not fussed, as long the car is not modded to racing spec, with good price & service history. Color wise I guess I could always compromise, but in such a niche market, I don't think I got much choice if I am picky

  • ProspectiveDarkness on 28/08/2015 - 17:09

    Spend the next couple of months familiarising yourself with the average prices on carsales, so you have a better idea of value yourself. And hope that Mitsubishi gets its shit together and releases a(n overdue) new design so that prices decrease on the current models.

    • spackbace on 28/08/2015 - 17:16

      Evo X is now officially at it's end, so yeah best prices would be when a replacement comes along, especially as it's a whole new car.

      • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 17:39
        +1

        EVO X Final Edition will be the last edition of the EVO sedan line, so there's some sentimental value in owning an EVO X. Apparently the next line will be SUV line. However, Final Edition at $60k or more, don't think it will be agreed on family's table lol

  • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 17:39

    Just wondering if I do wanna buy from interstate buyer, what are the procedures & cost involved by the way?

    • Steptoe on 28/08/2015 - 19:00

      Travel, Transport and Registration costs. Same as buying unregistered vehicle, pay Stamp Duty at your states rate.

      • Charity on 29/08/2015 - 22:01

        if you buy privately interstate, should you get the seller to fill in the your states transfer or theirs? What form would the seller fill in?

        • Steptoe on 30/08/2015 - 00:18

          They just cancel rego and hand in plates, as they can't transfer to your name. Obviously do this after you drive it home. Just a receipt with VIN and Engine numbers should do fine. There'll be some info on your states motor registry site.

  • Steptoe on 28/08/2015 - 19:03
    +1

    If you want a 10 in Auto, may as well get the MR. Set up a search alert on Car Sales.

    Also start reading evolutionm.net

    • Lancerx on 28/08/2015 - 20:45

      Actually MR is the only one that comes with auto..not much results..but that's to be expected

      • andyyle on 29/08/2015 - 02:38

        can get GSR's in SST also, just not as common as MR has more value

        • x d on 30/08/2015 - 18:44

          I have one of the GSRs in SST. Didn't feel the $10000 extra at the time of purchase was worth it for me. Have to admit however that I don't know if the MR held better percentage resale.

  • Abaddon on 29/08/2015 - 14:20

    You can also consider the RalliArt if you want to save some money. Still lots of fun

    • paizuri5 on 29/08/2015 - 23:05
      -3

      This. Why buy an Evo X when he wants an automatic and isn't an enthusiast? The Ralliart will suffice and is way cheaper.

      • Lancerx on 30/08/2015 - 01:54

        Still I want evo for the sake of owning one lol..

        • x d on 30/08/2015 - 18:45

          And if you done any readings on reviews, the WRX would have been a better choice if you are after a RallyArt.

  • Fobsessive on 29/08/2015 - 17:54
    +2

    Evo? How about Pro?

  • captobvious on 29/08/2015 - 20:09

    sti not an option? rumble of that boxter is like music to the ears. second only to a space shuttle launch

    • zeomega on 29/08/2015 - 22:14

      To each their own.

      I used to like the rumble of the scoobies when i was in my teens, now i absolutely loathe them. Esp when understanding that unequal length headers, which results in the rumble is just, Subaru's way of being cheap. At least equal length headers are finally standard rather than only being in their S series cars, that sound is getting old.

      • x d on 30/08/2015 - 18:51

        I have to say the rumble of the unequal lengths headers is just the character of the boxer engine which I missed most (I had a MY97 WRX once). Didn't know that it was designed that way because it was cheaper.

        I have read that Subaru enthusiasts are not too keen on the new boxer sound in the WRX, though it still is there with the STi engine.

        One of the track days I attended had a STi with a loud muffler and quite a few other cars around including V8 Falcodores and rotaries. It was the best sounding car on that day.

        Only problem with getting old is that the sound is associated with younger hoonish drivers. Makes it hard to want to have one as a daily drive to work.

        But every time I hear a good one, I would look around and think about giving it the thumbs up.

        Cheers.

        • zeomega on 30/08/2015 - 21:35

          Probably age getting to me, but once you hear the equal length headers,… you may change your mind. My mate has a s204 and that beast sounds awesome.

  • heartychat on 29/08/2015 - 23:21

    I don't know much about cars, but at the price that you are talking about is a two or three year old used Toyota 86 a good option?

  • [Deactivated] on 30/08/2015 - 00:07
    +1

    I got a manual ix, tbh I'd prefer an auto and I'm a "driving the enthusiast." Looking to sell it and get a 135i.

    My advice is if you're after power, buy a pre modified one or you'll end up wasting a lot of money.

    • zeomega on 30/08/2015 - 21:41
      +1

      335 or 135 will be a fantastic car to own, handles well and responds well to cheap mods and has bucket loads of comfort. About $6k gets you 350KWs. Without turbos upgrades, you can get under 12s for 1/4 mile with basic bolt ons and ethanol blend.

      Problem will be cost of maintenance, and repairs is very high. Grip is less than the E10. E10 on the other hand is cheap to maintain/own.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/09/2015 - 02:32

        I've read about reliability issues with the 335, do you think the 135 suffers from similar issues?

        • zeomega on 06/09/2015 - 08:53

          There are 2 engines that are shared between 335 and 135 depending on year. N54 (twin turbo) and N55 (twin scroll single turbo). N54 has more reliability issues than the N55 but responds better to mods and extracting power is much easier.

          Being the same N54 engine, they do share the same High Pressure Fuel Pump issues.

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