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Lenovo E73 Small Form Factor i5, 8GB + 21.5" Screen $667.60 Delivered

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Just been shopping for some pre-configured computers for the office and found this. I just found this deal.

NOTE the price quoted above is a modified form of the stock special E73 SFF.

  1. Click link above to select the $749 E73 SFF i5
  2. Upgrade CPU from i5 4460S (3.4Ghz) to i5 4690S (3.9Ghz) (more grunt at no extra cost)
  3. Downgrade OS from Windows 10 to Windows 8.1 (save $100, and you should still be able upgrade to Windows 10 for free).
  4. Add DVD burner (+$25.30) THIS IS OPTIONAL
  5. Add the $1 Lenovo T2224p 21.5" monitor (1920x1080 IPS panel)

Remember to apply the "CASHOFF" code at checkout to get the final price of $667.60 or $642.30 (if you don't get the DVD burner).

Its a very good unit for office work, browsing, there are further options to add more RAM or a GPU (limited choices though as it is a small form factor case).

Enjoy!

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  • Bugger SSD high for upgrade :(
    Anyone got one and have any issues?
    How long do you reckon deal will last?

    Better than?

    CPU: Intel Pentium G3260
    Mobo: Asrock B85M-Pro3
    RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
    SSD: Transcend SSD 370 256GB
    GPU: (Intel HD Graphics)
    Case: Silverstone PS09
    PSU: Seasonic 350W Gold OEM
    ODD: DVD-RW Drive
    CPU Heatsink: Deepcool Gammaxx 300

    • +6

      The Lenovo's i5 4690S will eat that Pentium G3260 alive
      http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/393/Intel_Core_i5_i5-4690S_…

      SSD aside, the case/powersupply and cooler is better in your unit, but at the same time the Lenovo is all ready to go when it arrives and for the usage it will be cool enough and the PSU has enough grunt.

      We bought one of these units last week (for $767.60 as the Win 8.1 downgrade did not save you money), and it arrived yesterday, there is a spare RAM slot and it is easy enough to replace the HDD with a SSD yourself if necessary.

  • +10

    If you value principles and privacy over a bargain, you might want to consider:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nast…

    Also, the fact they just laid off 3000+ staff might be relevant with respect to longer term support:

    http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/12/lenovo-is-laying-off-3200-s…

    Another way of looking at it, is they might be even cheaper in the near future :-)

  • Does anybody know how quiet this unit is? I'm thinking of using it as a HTPC/media server

    • +2

      No problems with the one we now have in the office. No noise other than the brief fan buzz when you turn it on (the fan spools to top speed…I have seen this on all my computers though).

    • +1

      They're whisper quiet. Build quality is generally very good as well.

      The bad news with these is they have a very low output power supply. I've seen them refuse to play nice if you add a decent video card, or a TV tuner card, sometimes just adding too many USB devices will do it. They're only engineered with enough current to drive the components they ship with. The PSUs are notoriously short-lived as well and very hard to replace (and a non-standard physical size).

      The size of the case and the location of the expansion slots can be a problem sometimes as well. For example, they like to put the PCIx slot in a position that causes video cards with deep heat sinks not to fit real well. :)

      • Bugger, I was going to add a (low profile) Hauppauge TV Tuner.

        • +1

          It may work. I have one with a low profile Leadtek DTV 2000 DS Plus in it that works fine. Thing is, I've tried a variety of video and TV cards in these in the past and they're a bit fussy.

  • I just bought one of these wholesale @$799 ExGST
    Great price for this PC, they are real workhorses.

  • -2

    I'd rather get the Dell Optiplex refurbs for around this price with similar specs. A bit uneasy with Lenovo after their repeated spyware attempts (even if it doesn't apply to this product).

  • +2

    Good find, the monitor alone is 'worth' $300

    • I'd say it's worth $150 tops, for $300 you can get a korean 1440p 27" ips.

  • +4

    The problem with Lenovo is all the malware they have been shipping in their systems, while in the past it was in the software, now it is in the BIOS so you will be stuck with Malware forever. I don't know if that is worth the extra dollars. You could probably get similar specs from MSY setup anytime?

    S

    • What malware?

      • +11

        If you search just for "Lenovo Malware"in google, you will see so many reports of them installing it directly in their PCs and even worse in their mobiles. I believe it was superfish. The problem with these malware is that because they are not built by Lenovo, most likely they will prompt you to download heaps of others on your machine.

        • +8

          Mostly bundled adware/malware. Some of them are now in the BIOS so hard to get rid of.

          Here is one of the links:
          http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adw…

        • Not sure how effective the tool is, but Lenovo has a tool to remove it.

          https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish_…

          Or I think you can uninstall this from the program and features.

        • @coffeetoma: This is in BIOS, you do not even know where it is installed. It is silent free support.

        • I think the link you're referring to is here:
          https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/lse_bios_n…
          and it only affects laptops, not desktop computers.
          If you're referring to superfish, that can be removed, and shouldn't be installed onto any new Lenovo computers given the bad rap they've had over it (deservedly so might I add).
          Personally I always format a computer and install a fresh OS over a new comp, but the LSE continues to install crap over it. Thankfully that link will let you remove it.
          I'd like to see you spec a similar comp from MSY (with monitor mind you) for a similar price. Granted, the form factor limits GPU selection, but the OS and monitor alone make this a bargain.

    • -1

      The problem with Lenovo is all the malware they have been shipping in their systems, while in the past it was in the software, now it is in the BIOS so you will be stuck with Malware forever. I don't know if that is worth the extra dollars. You could probably get similar specs from MSY setup anytime?

      You can't compare a MSY special with this computer from Lenovo and your negative vote is groundless as it doesn't apply to this product and you clearly have an axe to grind with Lenovo. The BIOS extension is no longer there and was only there for a few months in total and was there to load the Lenovo drivers etc when the computer was rebuilt, this was not malware so your statement is misguided and deceiving at best.

      • +4

        yea but allowed to neg if issue with seller. clearly has an issue

        • -2

          yea but allowed to neg if issue with seller. clearly has an issue

          No he doesn't, he has no idea what he is talking about, he has made false and misleading claims and to top it off neither of the issues affect this particular piece of hardware and both occurred in the past. The problem is that people like sd own a computer and think for some reason that they are experts.

          He needs to build a bridge and get over it instead of holding onto a grudge for something that has clearly not affected him and was only a very minor issue at the end of the day.

          The negative vote was not appropriate.

        • @Maverick-au: Minor, issue. Sure that means that you are an expert. The past was very recent and read Lenovo's press releases to know how recent the issue is!

        • -2

          @some_one_some_where:
          @Maverick-au: Minor, issue. Sure that means that you are an expert. The past was very recent and read Lenovo's press releases to know how recent the issue is!

          This is an incredibly minor issue affecting a small percentage of their products for a few months of production and the issue has been resolved for new systems and the old ones with a quick bios update.

          If this think this is a major issue point to a single person who has suffered a loss because of the bios issue. And yes I do understand what the issue is.

        • @Maverick-au:

          Maverick-au, before you go around saying "No he doesn't, he has no idea what he is talking about" and making a fool of yourself which you have rightly done, why don't you look up how superfish disables your https, allowing your banking details etc to be passed to them directly. I could go on for pages on how this is not a minor issue and no computer company should ever be doing it, but I will let you increase your iq yourself.

        • -2

          @sd:

          Maverick-au, before you go around saying "No he doesn't, he has no idea what he is talking about" and making a fool of yourself which you have rightly done, why don't you look up how superfish disables your https, allowing your banking details etc to be passed to them directly. I could go on for pages on how this is not a minor issue and no computer company should ever be doing it, but I will let you increase your iq yourself.

          Name one person affected by the Superfish or the BIOS issue that suffered a loss. These issues affected a small percentage of their hardware and for a limited time.

          Should Lenovo have added Superfish? Clearly not but they did it for a limited time and removed it. Should Lenovo have autoloaded Lenovo tools? Clearly not but they did it for a limited time and removed it.

          Don't bother going on for pages, your comments have shown someone who doesn't understand security. All manufacturers have had similiar issues at one time or another, from HP and it's notebooks transmitting audio on a FM frequency to Sony and it's rootkit fiasco.

          There are plenty of applications that are purchased that also intercept traffic in a similiar way such as these child safety applications for web monitoring - http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/529496

          And there are plenty of corporate networks that inspect all secure traffic in the same manner.

          At the end of the day zero people were adversely affected by this problem but this doesn't excuse the manufacturer's actions.

        • @Maverick-au:

          Once again I will keep this short, coz I have no time to waste on Lenovo-fan-boys with their smoke and mirrors where you clearly didn't do the research I asked you to. However at the end you said "this doesn't excuse the manufacturer's actions".

          I agree, Lenovo is a crap company, which puts crap in computers and puts users at risk, this goes into their laptops and their mobiles (you should look this up as well). They get caught and as every dim-witted company will know, they try and save their asses, and they try and sell their products for cheap. And I don't like that. Simple as that. Now I give you Maverick-au the benefit of doubt of knowing something called anti-virus and save yourself by clicking on the scan button, but not everyone does. So they need to know. You need to know the facts to make a better decision, about the product you are purchasing, who you are purchasing from and what they are known to do. And Lenovo right now is not on the side of reliable! They are more on the side of dodgy!

        • +1

          @Maverick-au: "Name one person who has suffered?" That is the precise problem that you never knew that you were suffering! You have missed the train completely. And lets say that your PC was compromised would you admit that you got Pawned? The other things that you have mentioned are weaknesses in protocols and not hidden as backdoor. Backdoor: a feature or defect of a computer system that allows surreptitious unauthorized access to data. See the light!
          No more contribution to this subject! Buy if you like don't if you don't!

        • -1

          @sd:

          Once again I will keep this short, coz I have no time to waste on Lenovo-fan-boys with their smoke and mirrors where you clearly didn't do the research I asked you to. However at the end you said "this doesn't excuse the manufacturer's actions".

          Why do I need to research something I already know about! Once again you try and make what is a non event into something spectacular, the fact is the biggest security issue is not an obscure flaw introduced for a few months into a limited number of computers but the person behind the keyboard.

          I agree, Lenovo is a crap company, which puts crap in computers and puts users at risk, this goes into their laptops and their mobiles (you should look this up as well). They get caught and as every dim-witted company will know, they try and save their asses, and they try and sell their products for cheap. And I don't like that.

          Lenovo is not a crap company, all companies make mistakes especially in the tech world and they are the number one PC manufacturer for a reason.

          And Lenovo right now is not on the side of reliable! They are more on the side of dodgy!

          How many known security issues are there in their current machines? That's right ZERO and that includes this one so there is no issue with reliability and they are not dodgy but this doesn't help with your petty misinformed vendetta that you have against them for some reason.

        • -1

          @some_one_some_where:

          That is the precise problem that you never knew that you were suffering! You have missed the train completely. And lets say that your PC was compromised would you admit that you got Pawned?

          Oh cry me a river, users suffered through something that never occurred? LOL. Neither Superfish nor the BIOS issue were ever exploited in real life, no personal data was lost and no person was harmed but you keep claiming there were victims. Find one victim who lost anything of value. Oh that's right you can't. Security vulnerability found and security vulnerability fixed.

          The other things that you have mentioned are weaknesses in protocols and not hidden as backdoor. Backdoor: a feature or defect of a computer system that allows surreptitious unauthorized access to data. See the light!

          Guess what, no data was taken so there was no backdoor according to you! I linked to a CERT document that listed all those other software programs that use the same method of HTTPS interception and you claim that it's not the same as Superfish! LOL I guess you know more than CERT.

          No more contribution to this subject! Buy if you like don't if you don't!

          Thank goodness.

    • Chinese govt made them do it!

  • Would be a great Plex server. Passmark of 7,382 for the 4690S.
    Plex recommends 2,000 score for each 1080p transcode, so plenty of headroom for streaming to Chromecasts etc around the home (or to friends if your upload speeds can manage).

  • +2

    Worth adding wifi too for between $15-35

  • worth spending $99 to upgrade th GPU to AMD HD8570? is this entry or mid level?

  • Onsite warranty too so can can sit down watching TV and tech will come fix.

  • It is worth adding video card for light photo editing or buy separately to add later.

    Any good options for wifi adapter?

    Thanks

    • +1

      The expensive ones. The $32 intel or $35 Broadcom

  • +3

    Don't forget 3.64% cashback from cashrewards

    http://www.cashrewards.com.au/lenovo

    or if you're a founder member 4.1% cashback from pricepal

    http://pricepal.com.au/Lenovo

  • +3

    I would pay $22 for hybrid drive

    • Care to elaborate for noob like me.

      • +1

        1tb drive with 8gb ssd speeds up boots common apps

  • Anybody knows how much would be the equivalent of custom build system?

  • -6

    No discount is worth getting one of these malware/adware infected Lenovo laptops. They installed the crapware right into the BIOS for god's sake.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/12/lenovo_firmware_nast…

    • +2

      Not sure if it makes a difference but this is a small form factor PC, not a laptop. Plus that was apparently between Oct-Dec 2014 and they have an uninstall tool if it's still there.

    • +2

      This deal is not for a laptop.

      • This deal is not for a laptop.

        It's ok, infinite is such an expert he knows the difference between a notebook and a desktop pc….. oh that's right….

    • Agreed. Have not bought a single Lenovo kit since it was sold by IBM. IBM, loved their laptops, some still running around from early XP days.

      • +1

        My Gateway's still running from win98 days.

      • Agreed. Have not bought a single Lenovo kit since it was sold by IBM. IBM, loved their laptops, some still running around from early XP days.

        And Lenovo Thinkpads are still just as reliable and well built as the earlier models but of course those that have stuck their head in the sand wouldn't be aware of this.

        • +1

          Mav…-au; very politely, calm down sunshine, and read before you type. It seems you are a paid employee of Lenovo from the type of your response. It is a well known, well publicised issue going on for last few years. People here have posted the detail of the problem and you have refuted all that. Time you come up with some substance of what you are saying and end this once and for all.

        • @some_one_some_where:

          Mav…-au; very politely, calm down sunshine, and read before you type. It seems you are a paid employee of Lenovo from the type of your response. It is a well known, well publicised issue going on for last few years. People here have posted the detail of the problem and you have refuted all that. Time you come up with some substance of what you are saying and end this once and for all.

          Name one person adversely affected by the two security issues that only affected a very small percentage of the installed Lenovo base and that were only theoretical issues. Yep silence because there was no-one affected. Security issues were discovered and security issues were resolved and the world goes on.

          Did you forget the part where you stopped buying Lenovo after IBM Sold them off, the fact is that the same staff that built the older thinkpads moved over to build the new ones, nothing changed except the technology used. To stop purchasing as you did makes zero sense and is a decision completely devoid of logic.

  • -4

    yeah, Lenovo is a chinese company, which will be under pressure of its government to spy the world, so no wonder they'll do this.

  • +1

    no one uses dvds anymore - I would go for the WLAN upgrade for $33

  • Looks like you can remove the spyware manually:
    See the bottom of this link for details.
    http://thehackernews.com/2015/08/lenovo-rootkit-malware.html

  • +1

    180W power supply. There goes my plan of chucking a 970 mini into it. RIP

    • For what you can add to it to max it out from the customisation page 180W should be enough….but you will need some serious mods to get a decent GPU in there.

  • I looked closely at this package, but didn't need/want the monitor and Dell also had a deal at the same time with $200 cash back ($899->$699) with 5% cash rewards, so $665 all up. (http://www.dell.com/au/p/inspiron-3647-small-desktop/pd?oc=y…)

    So far, I haven't had the greatest experience, but I'm blaming Windows as I immediately upgraded 8.1 to 10 and have had some major boot and stability issues since. Recovered back to 8.1 using the Dell utility last night and am now planning to request my 8.1 product key so I can download a copy of 8.1 to install on a SSD (assuming there is room and appropriate cables / connection in the small form factor case).

    Anyway, does anyone know of any good guides for the SSD operating system transfer process I've loosely described above? I probably know enough to be dangerous, but I'm no PC guru. :P

    Cheers!

    • The best thing to do would be to format and reinstall. The windows 8.1 -> 10 turned what was 3 partitions into 5 (I didn't make those partitions intentionally BTW, that was the standard windows format). Granted most of them were small, but you'll end up gaining that space back and a fresh install.
      Technically speaking, once you upgrade to 10, you've forfeited your 8.1 key, hopefully Dell will be sporting and give you a 8.1 key but it may not work :(.

      • Hmmm, ok. Thanks Serrin. :/

    • How did you get $200off as now only $150?
      http://www.dell.com/au/p/inspiron-3647-small-desktop/pd?oc=y…

      • The offer expired last Thursday and spoke to chat to see if could be matched.

  • +1

    Wow! over 2000+ clicks for a $650+ item. Cool.

  • +1

    I would ditch the dvd drive and replace with wifi, I would go with the best one, broadcom 4352.

    • That's a good option as well. I had to spec the work one with a drive but for a personal machine you are correct WiFi may be a better option than a DVD burner

  • Don't buy lenovo! if anything is broken on your pc (like mine) they won't fix it under warranty. just check their facebook. there are so many people asking lenovo to fix their pc at any one time.
    you have been warned.

    • Don't buy lenovo! if anything is broken on your pc (like mine) they won't fix it under warranty.

      I've had broken Lenovo equipment before and they have never failed to fix it under warranty (or even out of warranty).

      just check their facebook. there are so many people asking lenovo to fix their pc at any one time.

      Check the facebook page of any business and you'll see many many complaints. Go and look at Toyotas page for example and the complaints about melting dashboards that Toyota are charging to replace.

      you have been warned.

      Thanks but if you actually contact Lenovo they will fix whatever your problem which going by your vague post is likely a communication problem.

  • I have been using computer with usbs since 1990s and I have never had USB broken on me until now.
    USB are designed to be plugged and unpluged. I hardly call it abuse. It should be designed as fit for purpose.
    if it breaks under normal usage, I call it defective product - which I understand can happen because of quality control, and that's why you have warranty in case of these defective product.

    These days, corporations always say they have responsibilities to their shareholder to make profit, but I do believe they should have greater ethical responsibilities on products they produce. today it's a broken USB, tomorrow it could be a fault on your break on the car you drive, and day after tomorrow it could be the faulty engine on the plane that you fly.

  • -1

    Damn im trying to sell my custom built gaming pc for $700 lol. has better specs then this.well because custom is better to build and you get better specs out of it. maybe make your own custom pc instead of this place?

  • some advice please: i'm tossing between the two GPUs
    will the AMD Radeon HD8570 2GB (VGA+HDMI) Low Profile let me go 1440p on a dell 2713hm? if not, is the AMD Radeon HD7450 1GB (DVI+DP) Low Profile much worse? thanks

    • buy one without the gpu
      then buy a biger cool master case with psu from msy or whatever
      then buy a gpu u like
      problem solved
      now u have a gaming pc

      • +1

        Will this work? I thought small form factor PC's from major manufacturers had custom sized motherboards?

    • granted the mobo has hdmi 1.4, DP or dvi, onboard will output 1440p fine. A 7450 definitely does 1600p via dp or dvi

  • is it possible to purchase SSD separately and install it into this?

    • Yes, you may need a 2.5" to 3.5" tray though.

      • just to confirm. possible to add an SSD for OS and retain the HDD?

        • +1

          I don't think so, it is a small form factor case and in my quick open up I didn't recall seeing a spare drive tray. Although, if you dont take the optical drive I suspect you will be able to (with the correct adapter) mount a second drive in that position.

  • -1

    Just as I will never buy another Sony product because of the Rootkit fiasco, I will never buy a Lenovo product because of the BIOS malware.

    I'd really like a PS4, not going to happen.

    • +1

      Thats dumb. Microsoft, oracle, adobe, google and apple has their fair share of fiasco. You simply cannot avoid these companies.

  • I am getting final price of $675.30

    The configuration is:

    Intel Core i5-4690S Processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
    Windows 8.1 64
    Windows 8.1 64 - English
    Small Form Factor 180W
    8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz UDIMM
    Intel HD Graphics
    Integrated Audio
    1TB HDD 7200RPM, 3.5", SATA
    Integrated Intel Gigabit Ethernet
    Wireless WLAN Broadcom 4352
    Lenovo Slim USB Edge Keyboard - US English
    Enhanced Optical USB Mouse
    Internal Speakers Small Form Factor
    Publication English
    1 Year On-site
    ThinkVision T2224p 21.5-inch WVA LED Backlit LCD Monitor
    

    This is with Wireless WLAN Broadcom 4352

    • Looks good

  • Can you image the HDD and then put the info on a SDD and have both in the box at same time?

    • I dpon't recall seeing enough room in there to do so but I only took a quick look, primarily at the RAM to see if it was 1 DIMM or 2 DIMMs. The box we bought5 for the office has now been deployed so I wont be able to have another peek easily.

  • You Pricepal for further 2.5% cashback?

  • How many dimms in this? Is it easy to install more RAM?

    • +1

      It is one DIMM with one spare slot, easy to put in a 2nd DIMM

  • +1

    Bought one with broadcom wifi and 1tb hybrid ssd.

    Thanks op.

    Any recommendations for a low profile 1 or 2gb video card for less than $50 that can fit in the casing.

  • I'm getting $749 even after cashoff offer. anyone knows why?

    • Did you select the windows 8.1 downgrade? That drops the price by $100.

      EDIT: just checked, looks like you don't save $100 by downgrading anymore, marking as EXPIRED

  • +1

    Bugger pulling the pin and Expired!!!!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    $100 Downgrade definitely gone :(

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