Vic Roads Has Suspended My QLD Licence for Offences That QLD Has Already Punished Me for

Lbrite232 on 20/07/2015 - 13:22

Hey Guys,

Long time reader, first time poster. Here looking for some opinions/advice.

This morning i got a letter from Vic Roads saying that as of tonight at midnight my licence will be suspended for 3 months for driving offences i committed in 2013. This is all well and fine, and i believe in justice for someones wrong doing, but the problem is, i already lost my licence a year ago for the same offences.

I moved to Victoria from Queensland at the start of 2012 when i had graduated grade 12. In 2013 i committed 5 speeding offences in Victoria, all under 10kmh, all for one demerit point each, which caused me to loose my licence from the QLD government. February 2014 i had officially lost my licence for 3 months from the QLD government, and it stated that i was not able to drive not only in Queensland, but Australia wide, which is fair. I did my time, and did not drive.

The letter i received this morning had a list of all of the same 5 offences i originally lost my licence for. I must now loose my licence again, for another 3 months? a year down the line from when i lost it last for the same offences?

I called Vic Roads, and the woman said a new law had been past as of the first of July allowing them to not allow me to drive in the state of Victoria only for past offences even though i had already lost my licence from the state in which i hold.

Do any of you have any advice on what i can do? I find this ridiculous.

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Comments

  • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 13:54

    So you never converted your QLD licence to a Vic licence?

    • brite232 on 20/07/2015 - 13:56

      Still on a QLD licence. Im 2 months away from my Open licence and if i was to change to a VIC licence, they would send me back to the start of my green P's. Hence why i havent changed.

      • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 14:06
        +1

        Right, slightly tricky. If you're residing in Vic, by law you have to convert within 3 months. Vic can't suspend your licence, but they can suspend your "visiting" driving privileges in Victoria. Have you committed any further offences in Vic since those five in 2013?

        • brite232 on 20/07/2015 - 14:08

          Yes, 2 more. Once again, doing like 67 in a 60 zone.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 14:20
          +5

          @brite232: Are you familiar with Whirlpool forums? There's an appropriate thread "The one stop thread for all fines & infringements" with some very knowledgeable Vic folk. It wouldn't hurt to ask there as well.

        • brite232 on 20/07/2015 - 14:21

          I shall post over there also! Thank you so much.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 14:28
          +1

          @brite232: I'm not trying to fob you off, but there are a couple of Vic people there I think will have solid advice for your situation.

          And along with the good advice, there's also the inevitable bit of less-constructive and more-judgemental comments - don't get drawn into arguing with those.

        • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 15:45
          +5

          I would actually recommend the forums at trafficlaw.com.au they are a lot more knowledgeable on driving laws than Whirlpool, particularly in VIC, and Whirlpool are full of trolls that chastise you for everything you do.

        • whooah1979 on 20/07/2015 - 19:13
          +9

          @brite232:

          7 speeding offences in 2-3 year. please get off the road.

        • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2015 - 15:18

          @brite232: Get off the road mate.

  • Davo1111 on 20/07/2015 - 19:09
    +1

    tbh with your driving history, i dont think you should be on the road. After you 'loose' your license, it's probably worth spending that time on spelling lessons.

    • drdolphin on 20/07/2015 - 19:43
      +2

      Driving lessons seem to be needed first. Am staggered how inexperienced drivers can get so many fines, yet feel they have a right to keep driving.

      • Davo1111 on 20/07/2015 - 20:06
        +1

        Am staggered how this inexperienced driver can get so many fines, yet feel he has the right to keep driving.

        FTFY

        Many "inexperienced drivers" accept driving as a privilege, not a right. But that seems to have been lost on OP.

        Maybe it's just me, but i'm too much of a tight ass to get fines, so i dont break the law. Same applied in my Provisional days as any penalty in nsw pretty much means a suspension.

      • Noblejoker on 21/07/2015 - 10:04

        He may be a safe-ish driver - he ahsnt had 7 accidents - just 7 small fines
        If he wasn't so young he would not have been in a position to lose his licence at all
        How many taxi drivers or truck drivers in 40T rigs do you think get 7 speeding fines every 3 years?
        I can tell you it is A LOT of them
        That siad I agree with your sentiment that OP needs to recosider his bad habiuts and start driving to the speed limits
        Fines alone must be $2K - not sure what that is is Eneloops but it's not very OzB worthy

  • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2015 - 20:47

    right o so you are a P plater how come you still have a licence after so many infringements sorry I do not get it. We here in NSW lose our P plates after one can you explain more?

  • Davo1111 on 20/07/2015 - 23:01
    +3

    Yes, 2 more. Once again, doing like 67 in a 60 zone.

    So the truth comes out.

    Lets see if I can establish the series of events.

    • Queensland License Attained (provisional - 4 points)
    • Got 5 points, invoked license suspension
    • after license suspension, attained victoria license.
    • committed 2 more speeding offenses.

    have a read of this

    It appears you're still on a very low number of points after your suspension, it doesn't just reset back to the full amount. Hence when you committed the 2 offenses, you pushed yourself over the line (for a suspension) again.

    In all honesty, you shouldnt be on the road. In 18 months of you driving by yourself, you've incurred 7 driving offenses, of which you didnt drive for 3 months due to a suspension. That is honestly terrible.

  • cretin on 20/07/2015 - 23:59
    -2

    get off your high horses.

    It's too easy to speed ~10km/h above the speed limit, many cars around you constantly do it, the only thing experience brings you is the knowledge of where the speed cameras are. OP isn't asking for your judgememnt, he's asking for advice.

    OP my only advice is to NOT post on whirlpool, bunch of moral police and perfect drivers. Call up the police station and ask them, doesn't hurt at this point. Your only going to get speculation and judgement from ozbargain/whirlpool on this topic.

    • whooah1979 on 21/07/2015 - 06:52

      getting caught 7 times between 2013-2015 can only mean that op is speeding most of the time.

      many ozb has given op their advice. that is to take driving lessons or stop driving all together.

    • [Deactivated] on 21/07/2015 - 09:48

      Knowing when to speed? Not cool. People like you make me feel unsafe on the road.

  • inherentchoice on 21/07/2015 - 07:48
    +1

    the woman said a new law had been past as of the first of July allowing them to not allow me to drive in the state of Victoria only for past offences even though i had already lost my licence from the state in which i hold

    So can you ask her exactly what is the name of this law (ie state Act or subordinate legislation) and exactly what section number? Then we can at least look it up and read it.

    Sounds surprising to me. I would have thought that there is some kind of legal principle or prohibition on being penalised twice for the same offence.

    However I am thinking that it probably isn't a case of you being penalised twice, but rather a higher penalty being applied for recent offences or multiple offences given a history of repeat offences…

  • kima on 21/07/2015 - 08:12

    laws can be made for the future they cant be made for the past.

  • timcc0208 on 21/07/2015 - 08:34

    Fair enough

  • ramshead on 21/07/2015 - 08:57

    Please, the noun is licence, the verb is license. Same as practice and practise.

    • Baysew on 21/07/2015 - 10:18
      +5

      Thanks for the advise.

      • inherentchoice on 21/07/2015 - 11:23
        +2

        But the OP was actually correct and ramshead did not advice about "passed" instead of "past".

      • [Deactivated] on 22/07/2015 - 22:49

        I'm totally stealing that line.

        • kima on 27/07/2015 - 01:41

          looks like you did steal it, literally

    • Bellpop on 08/08/2015 - 13:03

      I don't know the difference :o Must be a 97 Peel St thing ;)

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