The ozbargainer in me feels a little guilty for spending so much money on smoking, i smoke around 25 a day which works out to be around $6800 a year.
I was wondering how many other ozbargainers smoke?
Do You Smoke? If So, How Many? POLL
gooddealmate on 05/07/2015 - 16:34
Last edited 05/07/2015 - 16:35
Last edited 05/07/2015 - 16:35
Poll Options
- 125I do not smoke
- 6Only socially
- 2A few a week
- 21-5 per day
- 35-20 per day
- 2Over 20 per day
Comments
Accumulated costs or health related financial costs?
Both + the financial burden you may put on your family.
Funerals aren't cheap, also lost income from getting taken to chemo, etc.
My dad used to smoke 3 packs a day…now I have passive smokers cough.
Just out of curiousity, (I am not a smoker so I wouldn't know either ways), how much does those e-cigarettes cost and how much do they differ from the traditional ones?
Can get a basic setup for around $20 on the net. Taste wise they are not the same but you can get the juice that contains nicotine for that important hit.
I found them to be a nuisance… continually recharging batteries, cleaning, refilling, weird looks from people lol. They are being banned from a lot of places these days in the same way smoking is even though they emit nothing that is of any danger or even noticeable to anyone.Thank you for the reply. I was always curious on what it is like from the smokers' perspective.
My nearly-78 year old dad has been a smoker since he was a young teen. Heavy smoker. Pack a day for most of his life. Tried everything in his later life to quit - everything on the market, down to quitting cold turkey. Countless attempts with varying success but he always ended up back on the smokes. He did manage to get it down to far less than a pack a day by pure willpower though, but not the true quitting that he really wanted.
Just a couple of months ago I took him to a brick and mortar vaping store in Sydney. We got him a proper e-cig and e-liquid that tastes like tobacco. Nicotine is illegal in Australia but can be purchased from overseas as many people who use e-cigs as a means of quitting full time smoking do (my father hasn't done this yet.. and so far doesn't feel the need to go that far. He's still seeing how he goes with clean e-liquid and hopes, like I do, that the e-cig helps him quit purely as a behavioural tool). So far he has himself down to just 2 cigarettes a day. The rest of the time he 'smokes' the e-cig.. so it's helping him tremendously. edit - I should add that his setup/e-cig is a late generation fancy gadget. Cost about $100. Nice big tank so he doesn't have to refill it often. Battery doesn't drain often at all either. Everything is variable/manual. Earlier generation e-cigs were much cheaper but far more basic.
I also personally know other long time smokers who have successfully fully quit (for a period of over a year - so it's safe to say there's far less chance of relapse) using e-cigarettes. Pretty damn awesome if you ask me. I'm all for them. It really annoys/pisses me off that they're frowned upon and viewed as these equally evil vices as cigarettes. I can see some of the arguments people hold re: potential downsides.. appealing to young people etc (fun/delicious flavoured e-liquids - which by the way are composed of common food additives vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol), but the countless benefits they potentially hold for people out there killing themselves with their addictions has got to outweigh that, surely O_O
/soapbox
I've been tempted to get one of these myself due to the continuing restrictions where I can & can't smoke. Problem is, these are being banned in nearly as many places as the real thing.
I really do think the day will come soon enough where the government bans smoking in all public areas, and when that happens, I just hope that places allow the use of these e-cigs otherwise it's going to be hard to venture out the door as a smoker….. Hmmm, maybe that is when I'll quit.
I've been tempted to get one of these myself due to the continuing restrictions where I can & can't smoke
You should be tempted into getting one for your health :P Cut the chemicals you put into your body.
Look after yourself, man :) Take the words of regret from all the old folks who have spent their lives smoking like chimneys. My dad wish he'd never started, now. Gift of hindsight comes too late.
People generally find it unpleasant and taking away from their experience. So yeah businesses will favor the majority.
A basic run down:
Cigaretts contain a lot of other chemicals, last time i looked it was 100+. Wiki it.
When you burn and inhale you are breathing in tar.It is possible to only have 2 at the least when vaping, pharmaceutical grade nicotine and something to dilute it such as vegetable glycerine. Most ejuice have flavours though and there are some who dont add nicotine anymore.
Vaping heats the liquid to inhale, there is no combustion or smoke.
There are a lot of studies some of which are backed by big tobacco and most of the ones you might see on your fb feed or mainstream media are often incorrect, misinformed etc.
A basic set up can cost less then a pack of 25s and overpriced set ups can cost over 200.
My current set up cost 40 usd for the battery/mod and the tank on it was 14 usd. A 3.5ml tank can last anywhere from 10 mins if i turn it up and chain it to a fair few hours before refills. Battery lasts from 1-2 days depending on voltage setting.
Death Sentence
Smoke what?
Trout.
dont smoke. Coz Smokings bad. mmmmmmmkayyyyyy?
so far more are non smokers. Interesting
That was always going to be the case, quite surprised at the ratio to those that do smoke though, considering 13% of nation smokes.
Smokers are probably not bothering.. so sick of the continual bagging.
Always found it funny that people pay companies for the privilege of having their health slowly deteriorate. That's a double whammy of costs.
People are doing that at Maccas, KFC, etc every day… Fast food and the couch is the biggest killer these days.
If fast food and the couch are killing more people than cigarettes, it's because we've done such a good job at stigmatising smoking.
Maybe we should start targeting fast food also.
I'd probably smoke no more than a pack in a year. I use them to stay up all night to write essays or have a few with mates if we go out.
I don't smoke, but did for a while when I was younger. I still don't quite know what possessed me. 'Social' + 'other', s'pose. A habit more than a physical addiction in my case, but I can definitely recall a few 'inadequately-rugged-up-turkey' sightings before finally quitting.
I know a couple of near-evangelical vapers, destined to be a smidge less evangelical after reading this link sent.
On balance, for smokers past a certain age, and where no other method for quitting cigarettes seems to help, a very likely better option than conventional.
Bluntly, though, anyone younger than that is a full-on guinea pig at the moment if they take up vaping, be it in isolation, or in combination (happening a huge amount, according recent studies) with regular cigarettes.
Twenty / twenty-five years from now, the 'associated diseases' profile for vapers will almost certainly be less extensive than it is for conventional cigarettes, but - within that group of diseases - you can reckon on a few particularly nasty, difficult to treat and ultimately fatal ones, affecting many.
Nobody will be reading this thread in twenty-five years (sorry OP, but very few in twenty-four hours), but, regardless, mark my words…
Best of luck with the quitting business (you are quitting, right?)
Save yourself some money / gooddealmate > bestdealmate.
Wife found Allen Carr's Easy Way to Quit Smoking book good. Helped her to quit after 20 years of smoking when many other attempts had failed.
Be careful of e-cigs, they are not exactly safe and have the possibility to cause cancer and other health problems. They are also less controlled with regards to the chemicals inside them, especially the risk of buying them on the Internet where you cannot be 100% sure of what chemicals are in them.
Here is some supporting info from the science community:
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/health-risks-e-cigarette…Nope. Why should i spend my money on something that affects my health.
If the short-term financial costs is your prime concern you should probably research the long-term financial costs associated with smoking.