OLIGHT S10R Flashlight, USB Charger & RCR123A: US $36.95 (~AU $48.86) Incl. Delivery @ Banggood

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Lgizmojo on 22/06/2015 - 04:00 banggood.com (415 clicks)

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This price (at just under AU $50, delivered) is a good deal.

I bought one in March discounted to around AU $70 delivered which was the best price around at the time. It took a month to arrive, so this is not likely to be suitable for urgent requirements. Alternatively I found the S10R selling a the moment on a few .au websites for $69.95 plus $7 to $8 delivery.

The S10R page will list at around AU $79 (which varies with the AUD-USD exchange rate). By applying the BGDS10R coupon in cart the price drops to the price in the title.

This LED torch/flashlight is high quality, small, powerful, uses one Li-Ion RCR123A battery and is easy to use. It can be recharged without having to remove the battery, which was a key feature for me. However the battery can still be removed and replaced in the typical way if required.

It is rated by OLIGHT at 400 lumens for 0.8h in high mode. There are three less bright and longer run-time modes. For my purposes it has ample brightness and throw indoors, outside the house and on city streets. In the house I often use "moonlight mode" which is easily accessible (a long press of the on button). It is 73.5 long x 23mm diameter. That is in the "thumb sized" league and "easily pocketable" would be an understatement.

In competing products, the Nitecore EC11 is a similar size and is rated by Nitecore at 900 lumens for 30 min. It achieves the increased output partly by using an IMR18350 battery which is similar sized to the RCR123A but can output at a higher rate of current. It does not have built in recharging. It currently costs over AU $70 on Banggood and was a much better price when they had an "email only" special on it when it was first in stock.

If a step up in power and battery size (and hence overall size) is required, I would choose the Nitecore MH20. It is 105mm x 31.8mm x 25.4mm (length x head x body diameter). It is USB rechargeable and is rated by Nitecore at 1000 lumens for 2h with 1 x 18650 battery. I noticed in the Q&A section of the MH20 page on Banggood they put up a coupon "438a6e". In cart that brings the price down to US $54 (~AU $79.28) incl. delivery. My web search didn't reveal any other MH20's under AU $100.

NOTE: The BGDS10R coupon appears to be valid from 1st June to 25th June. If so, there is only a few days left on it.

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  savememoney on 22/06/2015 - 08:35

  @gizmojo, +1 for your research and write up effort from one light fanatic to another.

  Personally I've already got enough torches (ranging from $5 cheapies to high end $$$, battery types ranging from AAA to 2x18650 or 4xRCR123A) to see me thru a zombie apocalypse, this is very tempting but my missus says 'NO'.

  Unless I come up with a REALLY good excuse…

  (edited typo)

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    gizmojo on 22/06/2015 - 10:29

    Thanks and I feel your pain. I have a $50 expenditure approval limit. Any higher and I have to seek approval from the family CEO. Penalties may include disposal of items of my "junk" without notice.

    If it is any consolation, who knows but something better could come around the corner at any time. Possible improvements could include higher lumen output and a micro USB connector for recharging. (eg. If Nitecore released an EC11 with a standardised micro-USB recharging receptacle like on the Nitecore Tube or the MH20.)

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  Pixie13 on 22/06/2015 - 08:40

  This shits all over those crappy $2 torches. The mentioned lumens above are ansi lumens, where as the Chinese ones are half that. Good price

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  ebosh on 22/06/2015 - 09:21

  Just an FYI:

  S15R is $35.95USD with code "DS15R"
  - Probably a better everyday light as you can use standard AA cells with it in a pinch. Lower output (400 vs 280), though it wouldn't be that noticeable due to the way the eye perceives brightness.

  S20R is $42.95USD with code "DS20R"
  - A longer light (73mm vs 108.5mm), but more powerful and longer runtimes (due to the larger battery). You could also grab a 3400mah Panasonic NCR18650B cell to bump the runtimes up by 50% or so.

  I love the size of the S10R, and the included charger is certainly handy. For me though, the S20R is the best of the lot (power & runtime).

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    gizmojo on 22/06/2015 - 14:38

    Thanks for adding those coupons (which I was not aware of) for those interested in the S15R and S20R. Should it be BGDS15R and BGDS20R rather than DS15R and DS20R?

    The Nitecore MH20 is only 15mm longer than the S15R and slightly shorter than the S20R. It has significantly higher output and has built in recharging by plugging a USB cable into it's standard micro USB receptacle (ie. Micro-USB B type). That is why I would skip over the S15R and S20R in favour of the MH20 if a bigger flashlight is needed than the S10R.

    OLIGHT do not specify AA's for the S15R but do for the S15. Perhaps there is a hazard of having an AA in there when the S15R is put on the Micro-USB charging dock. I can see your point about being able to put an AA into a torch if it's Li-ion battery is empty and can't be recharged when needed. However in practice how often should that really happen? The easy charging features of the MH20 and S10R should practically eliminate that scenario unless the flashlight is being heavily used, in which case it would make more sense to have spare Lithium rechargeable batteries (which will also outlast AA's). As such, that would just leave the S15R being 22% bigger and 30% less powerful for only 15% battery capacity increase compared to the S10R. Therefore the S10R is a more practical choice than the S15R.

    NOTE: For anyone who might want AA's and AAA's for everyday use, "these are not the lights you are looking for" (said with Jedi wave). Using an S15 regularly with AA's would be a bit like using a golf buggy fuel tank and engine in a Toyota Corolla. AA's or AAA's should now be applied to only low cost flashlights or situations where Lithium rechargeable batteries might be mistreated.

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      Sidor on 22/06/2015 - 16:50

      re: your comments on using AA/AAA batteries only in low cost flashlights, I would disagree. I have Fenix TK-41 and love it. I have unlimited supply of AA batteries and Fenix TK-41 is the best torch I spent money on.

      I do have LED Lenser MT7, P14, Ultrafire CREE on 18650 (rubish one, does not last long), Metabo LED torch which works on my cordless drill 18V battery, but none of those do perform as good and long as Fenix TK-41 on 8 x AA batteries.

      I am looking at Fenix TK-61, just because of its long throw performance, but it will come with $200+ mark for torch, batteries and charge, so I may stick with TK-41 for now

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        ebosh on 22/06/2015 - 17:25

        +1

        I'm going to agree and disagree with you on the AA/AAA front. I think they certainly have their place in smaller lights like penlights, headlamps, small EDC lights (Zebralight SC5 for example), but for me, when you get to the size of 4 or 8 AA's it becomes a bit silly.

        You could replace your TK41 with a TK35UE and get double the output with only 2 18650 cells and a much smaller light, or you could grab an Olight M2X-UT if you need the throw and run it off one 18650 with higher output than the TK41, and you can grab an extension tube for added runtime.

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        gizmojo on 22/06/2015 - 20:28

        +1

        …I have unlimited supply of AA batteries…

        Ozbargain? :) Yeah, I do too, kind of. Free batteries are hard to beat, but they have to be swapped out. I have an LED Lenser P7, which uses 4 x AAA's. Swapping out those 4 x AAA's after an hour of power now seems like a pain compared to a simple dock or cable connection to re-charge.

        The issue about what place there should be for AA's and AAA's boils down to this: Lithium rechargeable battery technologies are now dominating in all the right performance areas for torches. That would have included minimum whole of life costs, but perhaps not for you if you have unlimited free AA batteries.

        By the way, I was always impressed with my LED Lenser P7. It is still my best if I need zoom flexibility or a small narrow beam searchlight. The much smaller OLIGHT S10R outperforms it in EVERY other way though.

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        gizmojo on 22/06/2015 - 21:29

        @ebosh:
        The TK35UE reminds me of the newly introduced Nitecore EC4. The EC4 looks like it's smaller brother. On Banggood the EC4 has the coupon 5b81ad for a $US 54.95 price.

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        ebosh on 23/06/2015 - 09:19

        @gizmojo:
        I'll be excited to see once the EC4s is released. I'm looking for a compact MT-G2 light.

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        simulacrum on 23/06/2015 - 11:13

        @gizmojo:

        I'm looking at the two nitecores you mentioned (EC4 and MH20)

        Seems they are roughly the same price (with your discount codes). Both use XM-L2 U2 emitters, both are 18650 (2 of them for the ec4).

        Mh20 has slightly shorter throw and worse battery life, but has a built in charger. EC4 is a tad chunkier to accommodate the second battery. Would you say that pretty much sums up the comparison, or are there some variables I haven't taken into account?

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        gizmojo on 23/06/2015 - 11:32

        @ebosh:
        Interesting if it is not released. The Banggood page is a normal one that would apply to an available item and it says "Usually dispatched in 6-9 business days". Perhaps this is a case of them being lets say "careless" with the details?

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        simulacrum on 23/06/2015 - 11:44

        @gizmojo:

        I think you may be looking at the EC4 page. [@ebosh] was talking about the not-yet-released EC4S.

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        gizmojo on 23/06/2015 - 11:56

        +1

        @simulacrum:

        I'm looking at the two nitecores you mentioned (EC4 and MH20)

        I don't physically have either of them (yet) but from the specs:
        * The EC4 is 45mm (almost 50%) longer and much chunkier.
        * The EC4 has a medium range fairly intense spotlight type of beam. The MH20 is a compact general purpose torch with a combination of spot and flood.
        * As you said, the MH20 has a built in charger.

        I consider built in charging almost a pre-requisite now. It is a product trend. It can save messing around with repeatedly opening the battery compartment to swap batteries (unless you want to, or need many hours of use at a time). If the electronics and interface are good at avoiding over-discharge and the charging is done properly (I wouldn't trust cheapos with this), one lithium battery can live for years.

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        gizmojo on 23/06/2015 - 12:00

        @simulacrum:

        I think you may be looking at the EC4 page. [@ebosh] was talking about the not-yet-released EC4S.

        Thanks, I was.

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        simulacrum on 23/06/2015 - 13:17

        @gizmojo:

        Thanks for the info. sounds like mh20 is more what i'm looking for (general purpose/edc). Though I do like the look of the EC4.. Might have to get the MH20 for now and wait for the EC4S later if I decide I really want a chunky little throw :)

        … though might still check video reviews and see how well it floods at low settings.. as the increased battery life is an attractive feature.

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        ebosh on 23/06/2015 - 16:28

        +1

        @simulacrum:
        Have a look at this review that a mate of mine wrote. Then, if you need more info head over to r/flashlight and ask questions. Heaps of good info there, and we are all pretty friendly. I can't promise that you wont spend a whole lot of money though…

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      ebosh on 22/06/2015 - 16:56

      Nope, just plain old DS15R & DS20R. The codes have been working for at least 6 months (I bought my old man an S20R for Christmas).

      As for outputs in the S family (and lights in general), the difference between 400 and 280 wouldn't be as noticeable as most people would think. Sure, it's 43% more output, but the human eye would perceive it as only about 20% brighter. It is almost a megapixel type race at the moment with lights and advertised lumen outputs. The MH20 is good for 1000 lumens, but realistically it will drop down to 500 or below after a couple of minutes. You can only squeeze so much output out of an LED before it turns into a little space heater.

      I agree about the Nitecore, however I'm just comparing the S-family. Comparing the Olight's and the Nitecore, I would grab the MH20 any day of the week.

      On a slightly related topic, I would actually like to see Nitecore remove the onboard charging and try and make the MH20 even smaller. That way you could buy it without the battery and save a few $$ for those that have 18650 setups already. If they could get it down to the size of a ZL SC62 for half the price I would buy one instantly.

      On a totally unrelated topic, after ranting about the lumen race, my next purchase will probably be a MTN Electronics Convoy S3 triple XP-G2 that puts out 3000+ lumens (hypocritical I know). I've just gotta sell some lights first. I've also got one of the new 4/7 lights on the way to review for /r/flashlight as well.

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        gizmojo on 23/06/2015 - 12:13

        I would actually like to see Nitecore remove the onboard charging and try and make the MH20 even smaller.

        It is likely the onboard charging adds in a micro-USB connector and cover plus a few more components on a slightly larger-than-otherwise control circuit board. If so, removing it probably wouldn't allow a length or OD reduction at all.

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  maxwellian on 22/06/2015 - 23:12

  Don't forget your Cash Rewards :D

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  maxwellian on 22/06/2015 - 23:44

  Anyone have/know a coupon for the MH12/P12 or P10?

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    gizmojo on 23/06/2015 - 10:25

    BGFN works for 10% off the MH12, but that is not much. Maybe there is a better one floating around. For these models I don't know, but in general, good coupons on Nitecore models come up quite often if you watch and wait.

    Have a look at the MH20 though. Both use 1 x 18650 and output 1000 lm but the MH20 is much shorter. It also has the option to charge via USB without removing the battery.