My first deal, so go easy.
DeLonghi 1500W DL 7 Fin Oil Column Heater - $79.20 @ Myer. Seems a good deal for these cold nights!
Wife off to get the Good Guys to do there 120% deal tomorrow which should make it $77.05.
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DeLonghi 1500W DL 7 Fin Oil Column Heater @ Myer $79.20 down from $99.00
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… and good luck with your power bill… This kind of heater is the worst one, not efficient at all. The cost that you can save from power bill is enough to install an efficient reverse cycle split system.
That's interesting. Is there some kind of article/report/evidence to support this? I am genuinely curious.
I give you a simple example, my old fridge use 1,400kWh per year, new fridge use like 700kWh, per unit price is about 25c-30c, it means I wasted $180 a year. If I buy a brand new fridge for $1000, it will pay off itself after 5 years.
For the fridge anything that is older than R134A refrigerant should be replaced, it use twice as much electricity.
For heater the saving is much more, reverse cycle split system is very efficient because it use heat pump for heating mode. The electricity usage is only about 750-800W per hour compare to 2,200W of the oil heater. Your electricity bill will be only 1/3 compared to oil heater.
Your electricity bill can be $1000 for winter by using this heater, 2/3 saving is already $600. You can buy a Fujitsu (R32) or Samsung (R410A) during sale and cashback for only $500. I don't need any article to tell me this, do your own math and you can already see this.
"hour compare to 2,200W of the oil heater"
I'd consider it possible that a "Yum Cha" heater may use that much, but I doubt that DeLongi would put their name on one that was labelled 1500W and pulled almost 50% more!
My older reverse cycle does a fair job for less power, but that is for heating a largish lounge/dining room, with regular traffic. These heaters find their niche in smaller rooms such as bedrooms where they can bring the room up to temperature during the warmer part of the day, then just maintain it through the evening in a room where the door is opened only a few times, and the traffic is in and out, rather than through.
Your comparison is valid only if someone was planning to use this to heat the house, rather than a room. In that case, you'd need to make all your words a little smaller :-p
I agree - definitely install a split system reverse cycle air con if you can. We have a fujitsu 7.4kw for lounge/dining room, it costs us in electricity the same as our gas bill cost for the old gas heater. Ie once we swapped heating to the split system, the gas bill dropped by the same amount the electricity bill rose - ie as efficient as gas in terms of $$.
Plug in electric heaters use a resistive element and chew threw 2400w every hour.
Works on a thermostat, so as long as you get the correct sized heater for your room, it should switch off once at set temperature. Maybe you got too small a heater for too large a room? Then it'll be going full blast the whole time.
Nah these heaters are a killer. Use a split system, the newer models got COP of values higher than 5. Using a reverse cycle is far more efficient, threw away my gas heater because I was saving a fair amount.
These are (apparently) one of the more efficient ones, for people with only electric heating.
I'm in a small apt with only outlet based heating and the fan foot heater things are crap.
Good luck heating a home with one of those heaters.
Wear a jumper, a nice wool jumper and jeans will get you though 99% of winter unless you live in a really cold area.
wrong. the refrigerant makes very little difference in efficiency, it's only environmental reasons that they've moved to the new stuff.
also, you are comparing reverse cycle heating to a portable Low cost unit. yes, reverse cycle is best, but of it's a single bedroom, oil heaters are one of the best options out there in terms of efficiency. unlike other electric heaters, these continue to heat the room well after its been switched off.
if you can afford reverse cycle, go for it, bit otherwise this is a good alternative.
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You are wrong I'm afraid, refrigerant does make a big difference, the latest refrigerant is only about <20% compared to the one from 2001 onward, but it is a hugh difference compared to the old type.
I understand that sometimes you won't have options, but you can still try to cut down usage by wear warm clothes, sleeping robe is only about $15, electric blanket is the way to go and this one is probably a better deal ;)
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https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/195162Who cares what refrigerant it uses? If you're in the market for an air conditioner you'll compare the manufacturer specifications of each particular model for power consumption and output capacity. Making blanket assumptions on efficiency based on refrigerant type is stupid and irrelevant.
blanket calling someone stupid and irrelevant is stupid and irrelevant.
Some industry use a blend of refrigerants to get the right heat transfer coefficient, high latent heat of eveaporation and, low freezing point. The number infront of R is just a function of molecular mass. If you change from r22 to r417 you get about a 10% drop, but save the need for an oil change.
What's the point of it heating well after it's been switched off? It's merely a timeing issue/heating delay. You turn a fan heater on and get instant heat, you turn on an oil heater and it takes 15 minutes to heat up…then when you turn it off you get 15 mins whilst it cools down…it's not like you're getting free heat or anything.
The only benefit to oil heaters over fan heaters is silent operation and a more even room temperature as the oil effectively is a buffer/smoother effect between the room and the actual heating element…whereas a fan heater you may get higher fluctuations of temperature when it cuts in/out. Also a fan heater is noisy.
Fan heaters can get quite noisy as well, which is why I opted for an oil heater in my room.
If you're trying to heat the room for a short period of time and after quick heat, then no the oil heater is not ideal.
but for overnight use, once it heats up, it is very efficient (as far as electric portable heaters go) at maintaining a temperature whilst being "ON" for short periods of time.
It's also quieter and safer than a traditional fan heater.
also yes you can buy the reverse cycle unit for$500 but it will cost at least that much to get it installed. if you are renting, or live in a strata you might not be allowed to either.
and if not on an external wall, makes it very difficult
Yep, installation cost is ridiculous so I DIY ;)
P.S: and FYI, I did my research and have proper tools to do it like Flaring tool and vacuum pump.
So you're not qualified in anything but you think you're an authority on this topic because you bought a flaring tool? And able to give advice about refrigerant types and efficiency? I guess that explains why you make no sense in your posts above.
Our IXL heater died about 5 years ago and we had difficult time finding a replacement because the original heater had two programmable timers (two on, two off). We saw this Noirot (Made in France) heater which had THREE timers from TGG. Anyway, the kicker of the "deal" was the Lifetime hardware warranty. So wifey made the ultimate decision to buy one.
About two years later, it died. Took it back to TGG (with the original receipt) for replacement. They couldn't find the exact version in stock so they replaced us with the latest version (of the same model).
For those looking for an alternative to Noirot, there's a Norwegian-made heater called Nobo available in Australia.
Will the Delognhi really be any better than this:
http://www.bunnings.com.au/click-1500w-7-fin-column-heater_p…Most oil heaters really do the exact same function.
BUT… it's Italian designed yo!
$40 for 1 year warranty vs $80 for 7 years warranty… abit of a no brainer in terms of value. Of course if one doesnt care about warranty then go for the absolutely cheapest with the view to replace after on year if it dies. This is how I view it. :)
Yeah true…
Although I've got a cheapie here that I've used on and off for 7 years no worries :)
Edit: Where did you get the 7 year warranty info from?
TGG website http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/delonghi-1500w-dl-7-fin-oil-co…, Delongi's website and its on the box the unit comes in too. :)
I read that reverse cycle heaters lose their efficiency (heat output) as the temperature outside drops. See: http://www.braemar.com.au/heating/ducted-gas-heating/why-duc….
I personally use a oil column heater together with ducted gas heating. When the weather starts getting cold (~8pm Melbourne time), I turn on the ducted gas heating, shut all doors and windows to make sure heat is retained. I then let it run until it reaches 17 degrees (the temperature that I most comfortable at), then it shuts off automatically. On colder nights (when it reaches <6-7 degrees overnight), I also turn on the oil column heater and leave it on 17 degrees so that I can wake up for work the next day.OP, how did you go with the 120% with TGG ? :)
My wife paid $79 in Good guys with their price deal. I don't think it was worth the hassle to buy it then try and get the 120% which makes it $77.05. A lot of hassle for $1.95 lol.
Fair enough! I got one too but wife wants another one now. Thanks heaps for posting the deal! :)
myer website shows 99.
is the deal still on?Probably not now then if its back to $99.
Got mine from DJ's before this popped up. A little bit dearer but not $99
http://shop.davidjones.com.au/djs/en/davidjones/dl1501t-dl-s…
$84.15
i bought it for $79 from good guys..
There is a 10$ voucher available for online purchases above 70. At store i negotiated to reduce this 10$ from their advertised 89.95$All's well that ends well
congrats on posting your first deal :)
just chuck the price in the title, and might want to add in the description the original price ($99)