Hey guys,
Just watched fat, sick and nearly dead and seriously considering giving juicing a go to lose a little weight and get on the healthier side. Anyone else tried juicing and have good or bad experiences?
[Juicing] Just Watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
turkz1 on 30/04/2015 - 14:33
Last edited 30/04/2015 - 14:33
Last edited 30/04/2015 - 14:33
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Juicers put the skin/peel of a lot of fruit and veg in because it is the most nutrionally rich part but I wouldn't want to eat them whole.
Blending instead of juicing is better as you get added fibre, which slows down the release of sugar from the fruit.
http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/juicing-vs-blending-which-o…
Eat the whole fruit and vegetable.
More of a informercial than a documentary, if you ask me. Rotten Tomatoes doeesn't exactly give it a very good rating. The director behind the movie is obviously promoting his own wellness program.
There are numerous ways to eat healty — juicing is one of them and I have seen a lot of people struggle to stay on this diet. Thing is fad diets usually have a high failure rate because of one or several reasons:
- They imply the diet is a quick fix and results can be attained quickly. The advertisement gives the illusion of the diet being a short term program, so the dieter gives up before any real progress is made
- The diet over-emphasizes on one particular food group and neglects the others
- The rules are too rigid to follow, (e.g it needs too much effort, the food requires a lot of preparation time or is too costly to make), so you give up
- The dieter fails to properly study and research the diet plan, causing them to deviate, make mistakes and later give up when results are not seen
- You get serious cravings for what is normally good & healthy food (e.g fat!), but because the diet plan forbids it, you make up for it by over-eating or over-indulging (cheating).
I watched it and was all motivated. I went and got a juicer then a couple of days later I got over it. I tried the reboot with joe 15 day plan. Preparation is key, I wasn't dedicated enough to make the juices in advanced.
In my experience, it's best to go slow with juicing. I found that switching to juice or mostly juice diet to cleanse felt harmful for me. I felt better when I was drinking an extracted juice everyday along with a smaller breakfast, and normal meals otherwise. I also felt better using a multivitamin on a daily basis.
Most of the youtubers etc says that the food "establishment" is misleading people about nutritional requirements in order to sell food. However, the fruit and juicing industry also profit from people having to buy juicers and bulk fruit/vegetables. So it's in their interest to use scare tactics to get people on board. Sounds lame, but I think the best thing to do is plan your diet so that you at least have a chance of meeting your daily requirements.
Yes, not going to repeat everyone's suggestions, but all correct. Just eat the fruit and veg. Fibre is very important in your diet. Getting the whole spectrum of vitamins is key to your body's natural health, and is easier to achieve by eating a variety of foods rather than juice.
Diet smart. Food intake control is key, especially when exercising can't be achieved easily. And try to stay away from processed foods which are likely to be calorie dense… you can eat a whole lot more good food for the same calories (i like to call it better "food value"). Remember, C is for cookie and he now says it's a sometimes food.
Goodluck!
My whole family (myself, 20 yr old son, 15 yr old daughter) did the FS&ND fast for 10 days. The first two days, you do feel hungry, afterwards- not really. About the only downside was feeling the urge to "chew"— so I bought us sugar-free gum- lol. We also drank plenty of water. I also *cheated & treated myself to green tea with a bit of stevia in the mornings.
We all are very happy we started with this fast. We then went to a low-carb/paleo-type eating regime. We haven't ordered Dominos since Feb! Yay us! My daughter lost about 5 kilo (she was already slender), I lost about 10, but my son was the "biggest loser" at 25 kilo! We all continue to eat better— I bought a benchtop halogen convection oven & we have all fresh foods now with lots of veg & salads.
So yeah. Definitely give it a go. The juicing is not a big deal at all & a great kick-start to healthier eating. Do a days-worth at a time & you'll be fine. The longer you can go, the better (& if this is for weight-loss, go at least 20- 30 days if you can). Don't forget- you can always do it again- so don't be discouraged. Drink plenty of water- all day long.
Good luck!
PS- I like cayenne pepper in mine for a bit of bite.
Thanks for all the input guys.. I'm considering starting with a mix of eating the fruits and juicing with a mix of vegetables for breakfast and lunch and having a light normal meal for dinner. I think more than anything starting with a change will be good and time will tell if juicing or the vegetable uptake will hold but giving it a shot is probably a step in the right direction. I've been about a 27 BMI throughout adulthood so I'm pretty confident giving anything a shot will do more good than bad :)
Done juicing, done blending, blending is better on the wallet by a long shot.
Cheaper machines and you actually use most of the vegetable so buy less of them.The entire point of using a juicer is precisely to remove the pulp/fibre. This, in addition to very low carbohydrate intake, is what jump-starts the body into ketosis (body looks for fat for fuel vs. carbs— thus you begin to lose weight rapidly). The removal of the fibre from the juice causes the body to see it as liquid- ie; "fasting" as if you were only drinking water. The difference is that you're actually taking in an incredible amount of vitamins & nutrients.
To each, their own. Just thought I'd clarify the process a bit. The intake of water is paramount, as ketosis does impact the body and it needs to be flushed. As with all eating plans, do your research & check with your doctor if there are any other health issues. Low-carb does work, and works well. The downfall of any eating plan is usually the person themselves not sticking with what's healthy.
Btw- low-carb eating doesn't mean "no" carb eating. It's merely a way to lose the bulk of your excess weight & then carbs are re-introduced back into the diet in more manageable & moderate ways.
Good luck to all.
I done it a few times, always starving. I gave dad his juicer back and went with blending for the fibre. Got sick of shitting water.
you dont really need to do it for that long unless you have a major condition.
now instead of blending i will just go vegan for the weekend instead every couple of months, solves the blending and chewing problem. Drop starchy veggies and its basically the same thing except youre actually eating. I havent done it in a long time though.
I was looking at the Nutribullet at Productreview- it got a lot of negative reviews for reliabilty. So I look at the blender with the best reviews- The Optimum 9200.
Good thinking, eh. Genius. So then I go and find a price- $791.
$791!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are they kidding? I thought it was a misprint.
I'm staying out of blending.
Start checking your local Salvos & Vinnie's et al…
My Breville high-end juicer: $10- still selling for $199- 249)
My nice microwave (new) : $8.50 (worth maybe $50 - 80)
Like-new Z4 Logitech 2.1 speakers: $5 (sold for $89)
My brand-new (never used, all shiny w/book & never used grilling racks) halogen convection oven: $10.25 (this one was the large size, original & cost $349)
I wander in when I'm nearby & have a few minutes…it's amazing the things I've found!
:)
Out of curiosity, what state are you in? I'm all for recycling but some charities no longer take electrical goods here in QLD. I heard it's to prevent litigation in case some might be hurt using the goods, and the cost of testing it for safety approval isn't worth it for the charities.
We used to have a blender, breville i think. Then when that broke we got a stick mixer. So much better. No jug with blades to try and clean, still pulverises ice no worry, plus now we got attachments like chopper and whisk.
Also yes, forgot, as someone mentioned above, that juicing means you buy maybe 5x more fruit and veg than you would normally. Not the cheapest of diets.
I've always gone low carb as the day goes on. End up with low or no carbs at dinner. People on Paleo diets do not have wheat derivatives at all. Have your carbs in the morning when your body can utilise it for the day.
You might find a simple food diary is all you need to realise the quantity of calories and volume of food intake.
just about any change from a typical diet which involves in the reduction of refined carbs will cause you to lose weight. if it motivates you to examine your dietary habits then by all means give it a go. emphasis should be on vegetables rather than fruit. but in the long-term if you want to keep the weight off it has to be sustainable/enjoyable or you are simply going to quit.
I don't mind juice as a refreshing beverage.
I think taking the sugar and nutrients without the fibre is a short term health benefit (weight loss) vs long term health gain (prevention of cancer)Like others have said, why not get both benefits by reducing the weight through other means (calorie watching, and exercise) and keep the fibre in the diet for cancer prevention.
Hi gummi,
Yes, the removal of fibre is part & parcel a way to "fast" while still infusing the body with nutrients. You enter ketosis under most low-carb/fasting regimes.
If you want/seek a long-term eating plan, then after the fasts, really either low-carb or paleo is probably the way to go.
I guess the one thing I'd make clear is that however you choose to get your intake aligned, you can always splurge for an event. You're not forever disallowed ice cream or cake.
The only thing to watch for is that slow, slide into fast food &/or bad eating habits.
:)
Why not eat the whole fruit instead? That way instead of just getting all the sugars that juice has, you're getting the vitamins and other nutrients by eating the fruit as whole?
Maybe look at weight loss as a long term goal rather than a short term goal. Short term is essentially dieting- drink a crapload of juice now, lose weight, eat solids, gain it back. Long term though is overall healthy eating and exercise habits- learning to count calories and eat a variety of fresh fruits and vegetables; grill chicken rather than frying it; carrots and dip rather than a chocolate bar or pack of chips. Get creative with it and have fun with food. Indulge every now and then but by changing your every day habits you start binging less because you find that it doesn't really feel that good anymore.