I am just asking for opinions as we NEVER take family holidays and feel that JUST MAYBE if we had an allocated week every year we would? So if you have timeshare I would like to hear about how it works of doesn't work for you. I do realise it is not an investment but maybe it will make some nice family memories for us. thanks
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yes, great idea, but if I have to find $1000 to take family away I know I will not do it. There is always something else to spend the $ on :-(
Put aside $3 a day instead of buying coffee?
Timeshares aren't free either. At least you can go somewhere different each time instead of the same old crap hole.
You don't have to go to the same place each time, you never have to stay at your "home resort" if you don't want to.
I've had timeshare since 1989, I bought several others in 2010.
You need to make sure you buy into a good one, there are a lot of badly run ones out there.
All of mine are in USA, originally because I lived in UK. But another reason being they are deeded much like a normal property, through the courts.
They are freehold (no lease) and have lock-offs.
Lock-offs mean even though you buy a week, you can break the unit up - usually into two sections, sometimes 3. That gives you 2-3 weeks to use per year instead of just one.
For this, you pay the same maintenance fee.Never pay full price for a timeshare, always buy "2nd hand". New prices (from the resort/timeshare presentations) are highly inflated.
You can usually pick up cheaper ones on ebay.com or sometimes a decent deal via a timeshare resales site.Even if you bought one in a particular place, it does not mean you have to go there - ever, you depsit that week (or weeks) with a timeshare exchange company (such as DAE). You they get to choose from the ever changing availability through the exchange company. You also get to take "bonus weeks" for a relatively low cost. Those weeks always change too - but you can't say "I want to go to………" if it's not on the list.
If you use the system right, you can save a lot of money whilst getting decent accommodation.
Message me if you want to chat about it.
We have two weeks of timeshare and have had many positive experiences. One week is a fixed week during school holidays and one is a floating week which we can use any time of the year and if we use an exchange company we have the option of using it at any resort which has the availability that we want.
I agree with the idea of buying second hand or from a well established timeshare resort who has weeks to sell that previous members have given back to the resort. The start up costs will usually be only a few thousand or less depending on the resort and the conditions of the sale. If you buy up in a new resort which is selling shares for the first time the start up costs will be much higher and there may be risk involved.
You will be up for a maintenance fee each year. This cost is around $600 but it will vary from resort to resort. I don't know much about accomodation costs for a family for a week but I am guessing they would be more than the yearly maintenance fee.
Let me know if you have further questions. I hope this helps.
One of my purchases from 2010 cost me US$19, the other $1. Both sellers (they were companies) paid the closing costs - so I had no further expenses.
I've just had a look on ebay, there are a lot of timeshare sales on there and the vast majority would allow anyone in Australia to purchase (even if it says may not ship to Australia).
It is down to choosing the resort (particularly finding out the management company - which is easy to do in a search), along with if the unit has a lock-off facility (quite a few will have) this will be specified in listings.There are quite a few using the points system. I, personally don't like points and prefer to know what I'm getting (as in a week).
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Timeshares-for-Sale-/15897/i.html?_f…
wow I am amazed and confused and excited all at the same time. I will be messasge you whodidthat and pointscrazy can not beleive the prices I just saw on ebay. Just one question that comes into my mind is for you whodidthat - if you purchase from ebay USA do they have links to resorts in Australia? as at the moment I am not looking at taking overseas holidays? thanks
ebay USA don't have resorts in Australia but you do get some on ebay AU http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=Timeshare&_in_kw=1&_e…
However, a lot of AU timeshare are older resorts (some going back to the 80's). We have stayed in most of them in Australia (as exchanges) and found a lot having dated interior but usually looked after.
Just the other week, we stayed at Cedar Lake Resort. One of the dated resorts but very well looked after.As I said before, just because you own overseas, it does not mean you have to go there - ever. You simply deposit your time with an exchange company.
The benefits of owning overseas are as I said above plus they are often newer resorts as well.In the past few years, we have stayed (all as exchanges, because all of my own resorts are in USA) at:
Cedar Lake Country Resort
Classic @ Australis Sovereign (this is the only one we didn't like)
Tiki Village International
Golden Shores Holiday Club
Island Palms Resort
Kyneton Bushland Resort
Pacific Palms Resort
Manly National Apartments
Village Resort
Club Noosa
Freshwater Point Resort Broadbeach
The Sebel Creswick Forest Resort
The Links Lady Bay
The Sebel Busselton
The Sebel Palm Cove Coral Coast
I guess the starting point is to decide if you like staying in resorts. As a rule, my family prefers a private house or a central hotel, but we have had some nice resort holidays.
But for this reason, we would struggle to use even a week in a resort every year, and you must pay the maintenance fees regardless (although I note you can "bank" time with exchange companies).
whodidthat, and other timeshare owners, can you give us a breakdown of what your share cost to buy, what it costs per annum, and what it gets you on an exchange site maybe with some links to real examples? Are there other costs (levied by exchanges, or the destination resort if you have swapped for it?)For myself, my original unit cost US$8,000 back in 1989. Maintenance fees on that one around US$650 - but that gives me 2 weeks a year to use.
No 2, bought in 2010 for US$19. Maintenance fees on that one around US$1400 (as it's a large unit) - gives me from 3 to 6 weeks a year (depends on how I prefer to break the unit up).
No 3, bought in 2010 for US$1. Maintenance fees on that one around US$650.
No 4, a "freebie" in 2010. Maintenance fees on that one around US$650 - but that gives me 2 weeks a year to use.
I usually bank all of them and have mixture of 1 to 4 weeks holiday at a time.
I've listed above the units we've stayed at in the past few years (though I missed Sandy Point Beach Resort off).
In 2010, we stayed at:
Club Sevilla
Fantasyworld Villas
Westgate Lakes Resort & Spa
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Marriott's Cypress HarbourLevies by exchange companies depend on who you are with.
DAE is free membership (though you can upgrade for certain options) Paid membership is $55 a year, cheaper if multiple years. This gives you discounts so you can basically end up paying nothing if you use it right.
Exchange fees before discount: Domestic exchange fee $120, International exchange fee $175Interval International is paid membership (mine is paid via resort so not completely sure of AU costs).
These are rough costs in US$:Annual Membership Fee 1 yr $84; 3 yrs $219; 5 yrs $336
Exchange fee U.S. $174
Exchange fee International $154R.C.I. is paid membership (mine is paid via resort so not completely sure of AU costs).
These are rough costs in US$:Annual Membership Fee 1 yr $89; 2 yrs $159; 3 yrs $229; 5 yrs $349
Exchange fee U.S. $189
Exchange fee International $189Both II and RCI do have Australian pricing, I'm just not sure at the moment on those prices.
All 3 exchange companies have pro's and cons. You do not have to join any if you don't want to, but at least one is handy to exchage to different places.
DAE has the best pricing for bonus weeks.II has newer resorts (& includes premium resorts like Marriott)
RCI is not as good as it used to be but has Disney Resorts. Other than that, I'd go for DAE and/or II.
The databases on all are extensive - but not everything is available all the time, it depends what is put "in the pool".
Real examples?
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g1900209-d1852385…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g255329-d1225722-…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g658842-d649069-R…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g552157-d593966-R…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g261672-d572761-R…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g34515-d223717-Re…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g34515-d268861-Re…
In database, but not been:
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g1221082-d282519-…
http://www.tripadvisor.com/VacationRentalReview-g499612-d649…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g60654-d275980-Re…
http://disneyvacationclub.disney.go.com/destinations/resorts…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g29092-d78769-Rev…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g1223683-d308518-…
http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g293916-d2167945-…
Thanks very much for that.
On top of the maintenance fees there are sometimes, "special levies". These are usually for refurbishments of older units or for major improvements for facilities. They are usually a few hundred dollars. It adds to the cost of owning timeshare but it means that the units at your home timeshare are usually comfortable and reasonably modern.
We own timeshare at two resorts on Gold Coast, Beach House in Coolangatta and Mariner Shores in Miami. We purchased these weeks 9 and 8 years ago respectively and have had excellent value out of them. I'd suggest buying at a quality resort you would like to stay in and buy 'weeks' as a week will always be a week and points can vary from year to year and resort to resort. Also these are titled so you not only only own a share in an unlisted company, but own land too which you don't with points. Search 'Surfers Royale' which is a 14 floor timeshare in Surfers and was up for tender closing yesterday and had offers well before closing of 20 million. The owners of weeks there will all be given an equal share in that money. So a good deal if the owners of the timeshare choose to wind it up. I can't comment on buying overseas timeshares but the two we own are easy to get to, have excellent facilities and if we can't use them we would have no trouble renting them out ourselves and yes, you can do that. It's a bit like buying a house, make an offer- probably it will be accepted as many owners are getting older and can not physically get to the resort any more. Some vendors even list weeks at Mariner Shores for free, you just pay the legal costs of around $700. I saw a week at Beach House on Gumtree for $1 just a few weeks ago. We purchased through Royale Timeshares and it was quite good to have someone organise it all for us at no cost to us, and we also were given free RCI membership with that for 12 months. Beach House is a floating week and we've had no trouble using that in school holidays, but you can't get weeks 1, 2 or 3, these being prime time in January, with that and can only book school holidays times, 8 months in advance. Maintenance is around $700 for Beach House and $800 for Mariner Shores, and where else can you get a week in a 2BR apartment sleeping 6 opposite the beach in a prine location for that? Everything else in included except Internet but linen and cleaning costs as well electricity are all covered.
Phew- what an essay! Hope this has helped.I have owned a 2 bedroom detached lodge on the banks of Loch Lomond, Scotland for 25 years. http://www.qhotels.co.uk/luxury-lodges/cameron-house
It is in the grounds of a 5 star hotel, Cameron House and is a stunning location. I bought it freehold and it has paid for itself many times over. It is very high quality and is maintained immaculately. I have also stayed in other resorts all over the world by exchanging through RCI, sometimes obtaining 2 weeks for 1.
A "change in my domestic circumstances" means I can no longer use it.
That change also means I don't want any money for it.
Let me know if you are interested.Ninjastud, you have private messages turned off.
Sorted, thanks.
Why not just allocate a week on the calendar and go on a holiday without the timeshare?