Opal Cards - Have You Forgotten to Tap out Yet?

I use the Opal card to travel around Sydney. Quite infrequently, but I do.

My problem is that I've been wired my whole life to simply jump off the bus when it's my stop and sometimes I forget that now I have to tap off too. I've used the equivalent of Opal cards in other countries (e.g. UK) but that just helped to reinforce my semi-hard-wired bus exiting behaviour. In the UK all bus fares were the same price regardless of distance so implementing a system for tapping off wasn't necessary, while in other countries as a tourist I only ever used rechargeable cards on trains where barriers were often in place.

Sundays are easy though (for now). Even if you forget to tap off, the $2.50 cap is kept in place.

However, with my unfit for social capacity, head-in-the-clouds, knee-jerk personality I fear over the next few years I could potentially lose hundreds of dollars forgetting to tap off. Especially since at the moment I might be punished more than once. Say you want to catch 4 consecutive buses and forget to tap off on any of them your successive bus trip is started from scratch and you'll be charged afresh. Then come all the ineligibility for certain caps as a third tier of punishment.

Amazingly, even if you catch the bus for the last 1-2 stops you'll still be charged the maximum rate for the journey if you forget to tap off (apparently, haven't confirmed).

So this got me wondering, is it just me? Should I lodge a disability with the NSW State Transit Authority or is this happening on a frequent basis to other people. I haven't seen any statistics (but then the few people who travel the full bus route a handful of times a week may not tap off intentionally and skew the statistics). Assuming this is a form of discrimination against people with a particular illness what do you consider to be a useful system that will help remind people to tap off. RFID phone trigger? A huge scary yet funny-looking poster to remind you to tap off. An annoying, audible reminder to tap off ("time to tap" rather than London's "mind the gap"?).

I wish there was an on-street solution to tap off at every bus stop. This will help people get off the bus quicker and give you a second chance to tap off. But I'm sure there are big issues in getting this rolled out.

I wrote them a letter months ago and never got a reply so I assume a petition is in order. Or maybe the issue only affects me and a few others 60 years my senior?

Poll Options

  • 16
    I have already forgotten to tap off (e.g too busy helping the elderly descend the step)
  • 8
    Always tap off, always will. You non-tappers should go to gaol where you belong. Grrr!
  • 6
    Always managed to tap off so far, may fail in future (e.g. pondering good deeds for the day)

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Comments

  • +2

    I live in SA, and the system here only requires you to tap once when you get on, and that's it (At least for buses anyway).

    I travel to Sydney quite often, and so far I've only forgotten to tap off once. Luckily, I was travelling a fair distance, so regardless if I had tap off or not, the maximum would be charged anyway.

    • Yeah I'm fortunate that I rarely travel more than 8 times a week and normally only need 1 bus and walk the rest. But for others it's a double/triple whammy since the default fares also don't count towards the 8-trip weekly limit.

      • Yes i found this the hard way…

  • +3

    check your balance regularly online, if you forget u can call them up or submit a form to get it fixed

    or you can remember this jingle…

    TAP OFF TAP OFF TAP OFF TAP OFF

    just sing that every time your on the bus!

    • Haha. I start singing (in my head) but forget after half an hour. Should get a choir going. Buses are slow where I live :)

      I might look into the form thing next time.

    • or you can remember this jingle…

      TAP OFF TAP OFF TAP OFF TAP OFF

      just sing that every time your on the bus!

      LOL

    • I have submitted a form to them and never heard back - plus their response time is quite long and by that time I wouldnt even remember which trip they are talking about.

      • +1

        i usually call them, they fix it up on the spot

        • what number do you call? I sometimes get charged incorrect fare when I tap off as well. Not sure if its worth following up though.

        • +1

          @sagrules:
          13 67 25

          i've call 3 times
          usually cause when i get off the bus or the train, the tap off was broken and i got charged the max
          was fixed up immediately each time

      • I've used the form twice and they have replied quite promptly - once when the ticket machines were completely out so I got the refund; and one time I was hopping off the bus and accidentally reversed my tap off; but my colleague recommends calling them as they will deal with it as soon as you get through! Though my grudge is that once I topped up online and it took over 12 hours for the funds to go through, so I had to buy a ticket :(, my complaint for that didn't get very far…

  • +1

    I didn't know this was a problem! In Perth at least, no one thinks twice about tagging off (speaking very generally). I think everyone's grown accustomed to the beeping sound it makes as you go on/off the bus.

    • Hopefully that'll be me one day. We Sydney folk must be slow.

      Back in May it was reported that 3% of journey-takers failed to tap off. Assuming the current statistics of this forum poll are accurate (with an n=16 and extreme community and "can't be bothered voting" bias :)) it appears half of us are responsible for all of the failed tap offs - and it's reasonable to expect a group that tends towards repeated failures (maybe twice a week or more).

      I'd like to see if the Perth exit looks different in any way that may have lead to a subconscious "cue". My only cue is when someone if front of me beeps out (so it sucks when I travel at quiet times).

      • I'm not sure how long Opal has been around, but SmartRider has been around for nearly 10(?) years, so nearly everybody has one, and it's the norm. It's not unusual for any particular journey to not see a single person buy a cash ticket.

        • opal has only been around for 2less than a year, so a 3% rate for something that was just introduced is quite low

          would expect after 1 year it would be even lower

          for elderly, they have a 2.5 daily cap so pretty much they dont need to tap off anyway

  • +1

    I can sympathise as I fear I may forget one day. So far so good touch wood. You can tap off even before the bus has reached the stop, as soon as the terminal shows Tap on or off. In fact today I saw somebody tap off as the bus was departing the previous stop. Not sure if that's kosher as he may have crossed a fare boundary, but probably he didn't.

    I'm actually more likely to forget at a train station without barriers, if nobody else is around tapping off which would remind me.

    • Yeah that was my plan originally - but I think they block the machines between stops so you'd have to do the naughty deed and tap off early. But I think you're onto a promising technique. I might tell myself to go to the machine early at every stop and focus on that as my goal rather than the door. Right now I'm like "Ooh, that's my stop!"

    • The "sneaky tap-offs"! I see more and more people tapping off one or two stops after they get on, but they don't get off the bus, they stay on for ages and don't tap off when they actually get off the bus. Thus getting charged the cheapest fare. And if they need to switch to another bus or train at their destination, they also get to start a new journey (because tap off location and tap on location are not the same) and thus get to their weekly free reward earlier. Double bonus for them, until they get done by an Inspector, although I am yet to see one.

  • I'm the kind of guy that frequently leaves his wallet behind on cinema seats, store shelves etc., so I have adhered to the K.I.S.S. principle: am still on Travel10s, or Metro10s, or whatever the hell they're called nowadays. Clip in once, and only once.

  • I've exited the bus a couple of times now because the door opens to let you off, but the Opal machine just says 'please wait'. How long are you supposed to wait, especially with people wanting to get on? I do forget to tap off too.

    • +1

      it's annoying but I think the driver can choose to only open the front, so you need to yell out to turn on the opal readers! :(

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