Opal Weekly Reward in One Day for $15

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All credit goes to SilverStar9192 on Reddit. I copied and pasted it. Hope I haven't done anything illegal.

How it works:

  • Tap on at any light rail station
  • Tap off at Pyrmont Bay, then immediately tap back on again
  • Walk to The Star light rail - 200m along Pirrama Rd
  • Tap off then immediately tap on again again
  • Walk back to Pyrmont Bay and repeat.
  • After three trips (1.5 round trips), the fourth trip starts a new journey
  • After 7 journeys - 21 single trips - you are charged $14.70 .
  • Trip number 22 will charge you $0.30 and will be the eighth journey.
  • The weekly reward is now active for the rest of the week.

Tips:

  • At Pyrmont Bay, use the readers on opposite sides of the pole to tap off and tap on in quick succession
  • At The Star, wait 15 seconds after tapping off to avoid "already tapped off error" then tap on again. (The closest Opal pole at The Star only has one reader.)

Advantages of Light Rail method:

  • Only 200 metres level walk between Opal poles at Star City LR to Pyrmont Bay LR
  • Each Opal journey requires 1.5 return trips, or 600 metres - slightly less than Erskineville/Macdonaldtown return trips which are about 650 metres each.
  • You could reach 7 journeys in about 25-30 minutes if you jog or run fast
  • You can ride the light rail between stations if it happens to come, as you are always tapped on.
  • This method will work at other close by light rail stations, such as Capitol Square and Paddy's Market, which are about 300m apart.

Disadvantages of Light Rail method:

  • If you aren't near a light rail station, it will cost an extra fare to arrive in Pyrmont which uses up the daily cap and may limit your journey count for the day.
  • There is a street crossing at The Star's carpark entrance/exit which may delay you slightly if there is traffic.

Related Stores

Opal Card - NSW Government
Opal Card - NSW Government

Comments

  • Opal Weekly Reward in One Day for $15

    what does that mean ?

    • +1

      it means exactly what it says. you get the weekly reward in one day for spending 15 dollars.

      Considering you're not even from NSW, why would you bother clicking on and then commenting pointlessly on something that has absolutely NOTHING to do with you?

      oh yeah, of course, you do it because you have nothing better to do than be a dick on OzBargain on a saturday night.

        • how many opal cards do you have in VIC ?

        • -6

          @ShinjukuJR:

          how many opal cards do you have in VIC ?

          I have no idea, I'm sure there are many thousands who commute to Sydney weekly…

        • -1

          Don't be harsh on jv. He just needs to be cultured.

      • No need to be a jackass about it.

        Australia does not revolve around NSW, why should people in the other states know what your ticketing system is called?

        • -2

          You're right…. Australia revolves around Sydney

    • +1

      For $15 you get to walk around the city tapping your opal card

  • -4

    Is this a joke? Anyone with Opal knows you can do 6-7 trips a day with a hour in between but this isn't a bargain post

    • -8

      Is this a joke?

      It appears so…

    • +1

      The trick is to reach 6-7 journeys without hitting the daily cap, any trips after you've hit the daily cap don't count towards your 8 weekly journeys, it's not easy to make 6-7 journeys per day before hitting the daily cap without actually spending the same amount of effort.

      • -1

        Yeah u have to weigh up waiting around but if you are single party animal who works in the City it's easy to achieve

  • +1

    This sounds like a time consuming adventure but what is the reward?

    Is it worth more than the $15 you pay?

    • +2

      This sounds like a time consuming adventure but what is the reward?

      The reward is that you get free travel in Sydney for the rest of the week. It is good for those with expensive commutes.

      Is it worth more than the $15 you pay?

      In general it is not really worth the time for the amount of money saved. However it is good for those that want to incorporate it into exercise. So think of it as getting a travel discount for exercising. I will be doing something similar to this, but not that particular route.

    • id happily pay someone $5 each week to do this for me.

      heck, they can line up say 20 of these cards and do the dance on the monday, and its win-win for everybody!

      let me know if any1 wants to take up this responsibility of organising!?

      • why neg me? this is ozbargain, we look for a way to save $$…. hMMM

        • It is a pain though, especially if you have 5+ cards, gets confusing, was doing it $5 for my mates and decided to stop $10 is more reasonable.

  • +2

    Doesn't it do the transfer thing with multiple tap ons/offs in a single hour? Or does the light rail not have that?

    • It does but it only keeps a record of four (or three) trips.

      So tapping at:
      A->B, B->C, C->D, D->E, E->F
      would mean a new journey is started at D (or E)

      I read elsewhere that it was four but silverstar seems to suggest it is three.

  • +9

    for people in NSW using an Opal Card for bus/train/ferry tryps, it means that effectively any trips you make for the rest of the week are free. So, for example, if you commute from the Central Coast to Sydney to work, doing this during your lunch hour on Monday would mean that the rest of your week's trips on the Opal Card are free.

    • +8

      thanks for making some sense out of the mumbo jumbo posted by the OP

      • -6

        anyone that has an opal card would know exactly what OP meant. so why keep commenting on something that has literally NOTHING to do with you?

        oh yeah, because nothing better to do than troll as usual

        • +9

          anyone that has an opal card

          I had to click on the link to see that this was a about a card, and even after reading the description it made no sense and is didn't mention anything about NSW…

          because nothing better to do than troll as usual

          I was asking for info about what this post was about, the only one trolling here appears to be you

        • @jv:

          JV the op's post wasn't to inform people about "what" an opal card is and if you didn't know then that is your fault we have Google for a reason. you are just being a little child right now.

          Stop trolling JV.

        • -6

          @holden93:

          we have Google for a reason

          I did google and got this…

          Ozbargain has a description field for a reason.

    • +2

      @jv

      Your usual pedantic self has raised a great response by

      @Monarocv8

      Thank you both for the effective clarification for those who even live in NSW

  • +1

    Weekly Travel Reward*

    The Opal card offers you a reward for frequent travel.

    Take 8 paid journeys from Monday-Sunday with an Opal card and enjoy free travel for the rest of the week.

  • I'm bad at this

  • SilverStar9192 must have too much time on their hands. Most people have other things to do with their time. Insignificant things like a job. Maybe they have Mondays off from a position near the light rail to do this gallivanting so that they can pay nothing for the other working days.

    • +1

      SilverStar is a transport and Opal enthusiast. Employed, I believe. He's more interested in trying to discover the undocumented rules of the system than to game it and has probably has spent more on Opal fares in trying to reverse engineer the system than he has saved by gaming it. Given that the savings can be substantial up to $45 and the method provides worthwhile exercise, what's not to like?

      If you don't live anywhere where you can game Opal you'll face additional time or costs to get into the right position, but conversely you'll have spend less time gaming Opal.

      Most people can manage at least one journey during lunchtime allowing them to displace the fares for 3 journeys by 3 cheaper ones.

      • Most people can manage at least one journey during lunchtime allowing them to displace the fares for 3 journeys by 3 cheaper ones.

        Sure, I do that sometimes, but the savings are small, replacing a $3.50 bus journey with a $2.10 one. It's more of a lunchtime jaunt than saving $1.40. I also wait until 1830 if it suits my plans. But it's not much to me when you consider my rate of pay. But it's $1.40 you say. My co-workers spend $10 or more buying lunch when they could bring in a healthier lunch for less.

        But I understand the motivation for publishing this sort of hack. People like to show off good hacks, software or otherwise.

        • Obviously, the bigger the normal spend the more the incentive to game the system. For you, its more like am I prepared to accept $1.40 in compensation for unnecessarily catching a bus and future health issues arising from a lack of exercise.

          I also wait until 1830 if it suits my plans

          Huh? The train is alway cheaper than a bus for 3 - 8kms.

        • @Stingo: I get plenty of other exercise believe me. 4 to 6 hours of workout. A walk is nothing.

          1830 is when the off peak kicks in.

        • In that case you should definitely see how fast you can run between light rail readers. Maybe complain to TfNSW that they're not providing you with split second timing between the reader,

          1830 is when the off peak kicks in.

          There's no off peak for buses.

        • @Stingo: 1830 is when the off peak for trains kicks in. Opal is not just for buses.

          Running is not my preferred workout method.

        • You only mentioned buses in your first post.

        • @Stingo: We are talking about saving money with Opal, right? So the limitation was only in your mind.

        • Well, you're the one that personalised it, by writing:

          Sure, I do that sometimes, but the savings are small, replacing a $3.50 bus journey with a $2.10 one.

          So I assume you were talking about yourself, otherwise the savings can be as much as $12.90 if the journey displaced is a $15 one.

        • @Stingo: 1830 was in a separate paragraph, so it was you who made the assumption that it was about buses. Maybe you assumed that I only use one mode? I'm one of those lucky people who have a couple of modes at my disposal. As you are well aware Opal journeys and therefore savings are not limited to buses.

  • +4

    Pretty soon we should see a bootcamp fitness program operating at around Monday's lunchtime in the city.

  • -6

    I don't see the point in spending $15 to get free rides.

    • to save as much as $45…

    • $15 to have 1 week no additional cost to travel in Sydney or intercity public transport

  • +1

    Say my morning commute by train costs $4, I make 10 trips in a week, this would have cost me $40 before Opal. With Opal you only pay for 8 trips in a week, the rest of the week is free. So I'd pay $32 to hit the weekly reward.

    The above is a method to get 8 paid trips in a quick time and for a reasonably low price. If you can do this say Monday lunch time, you could save maybe $13 a week. The further you travel, the more your daily commute is going to cost, so the more you would save doing this method.

    Edit: I did $13 because you probably had to commute in Monday morning at full price.

    • +5

      Now another way is to share this with friends each week, one person does 3 cards each time, then 3 cards are now activated with the trick.

      Next week one of the other's does the same…

      Now maybe some enterprising Ozbargainer/Student can set up a business where for $3 they can do this for other ozbargainers 10 tickets earns $30 saves a lot of walking.

      A lot better than collecting cans for the 10c reward when this gets introduced in a few years time

      The others can just sit in the park eating their lunch……

      • I would pay $3 just to see the bus drivers face when someone attempts your card shuffling trick.
        Pos vote from me for creativity

  • So Reading this tapping on/off at the the opposite card reader at light rail, doesn't trigger the "transfer"?

    All previous strategies involved tapping on again at a different station.

  • Ok, let me clarify how this work since I have already done it.

    @bagbern

    It does trigger the transfer, but there is an unwritten rule in opal card where every 4th 'trips'= 1 journey, the exploit uses this to 'convert' the transfers into a new journey. Basically, you do 21 trips or if you are not bother counting, you can keep running back and forth until it say -$0.30. This signifies the daily cap as well as the weekly reward being active.

    For concession opal card holders (students), they can do it for $7.50 and until the screen say $-0.15 rather than $-0.30 like the adult card.

    Edit: this method assumes you use a 'clean' card, i.e. you haven't use your card until you starting catching the light rail.

  • I just tried this… it took me 4 trips rather than 3 to register a new "journey"??? am i doing it wrong?

    • +1

      yes, from what I understand they confirmed on Reddit that the system has been changed and now a new journey only starts after 4 trips, not 3.

  • How much does each of the 'journeys' cost? Fairly new to Opal and still trying to figure out the system.

  • each journey costs $2.10 on the light rail

  • Since the LR moved to 4 trips per journey last month, it has taken shine off this method.
    I think that for those working in cbd, using the buses on George St, anywhere between central and wynyard works ok - it takes about 10-15 mins to complete a journey (4 trips) - the stops are reasonably close and buses come in quick succession, so you can hop off one and straight onto the one behind.
    Seems to be a popular activity on Mon lunch judging by no. of people travelling one stop.
    Supplement that with a trip to get morning /afternoon coffee and you can quite easily clock up the 8 journeys

  • I can take a half day off each week.
    Does the tap off>walk back to original station> tap on repeat between close stations still work? Maybe this can be my monday morning exercise routine!

    • There have been no reports to the contrary. You can do a similar thing with the light rail too provided you walk 2 stops away from the stop where you tapped off. McDonaldtown Erskinville are the 2 closest stations for that method on heavy rail.

    • Doesn't work with City stations

  • Where is loopholes like this for Myki?

    • The Myki rules are immune to this sort of gaming, but if you'd purchased a Z1 pass last year the system gives you a credit for travelling in both zones on the weekend. I'd argue there is less need to screw the system since the system generally screws you less apart from short trips.

      Mind you $3.04 in credit stacks up pretty poorly next to up to $45 in savings (= up to $30 free credit). I don't know of any money spinners for Opal, the closest was a uncorroborated report in Bus Australia that suggested you could reach the Sunday daily cap by traveling in the free bus zones.

    • Myki system is a lot simpler right?

      • In most respects yes, however, Myki doesn't have caps, so if you want a frequent travel discount you need to load a pass and as you can see from the link above the interaction of a pass and PAYG is anything but simple. There are also more exceptions to tapping on and off than apply with Opal.

  • How about taking a few friend's cards with you too? Tap them all - charge them a small fee for your effort. You might even make your $15 back.

  • Me and my mates do this, one person does it each week, it works out well, except when people can't do it on Mondays.

  • What is I tap on Pyrmont Bay, walk to The Star to tap off, then walk back to Pymont Bay tap on then The Star to Tap off, 8 times. Will this work?

    • You would need to walk to the next stop after the Star to generate the discontinuity that gives you a new journey. Unlike heavy rail, light rail transfers are also permitted at the 2 stops immediately adjacent to the stop where you tapped off rather than only at the same stop (on Heavy Rail city also counts as single stop)

      I think that works out to be further than 4 trips between the Star and Pyrmont from memory something like 1200m vs. 800m per journey. Of course you can use the tram for some trips.

      Unless you're going home in less than an hour you can leave your last journey of the day until then since it will be charged at 30c regardless of what it is.

    • I guess your bus trip from Northwest means you'll hit the $15 day cap before the 8 journeys :)

      • Buses are the least bad, the maximum fare for (4 trip) bus or light-rail journeys is $4.50 vs $7 for ferries and $8.30 for trains. The people who really get screwed by Opal are multi-mode travelers, a few of whom will hit the cap on their way to work. That's why they added the $60 weekly cap. Still, $30 is much better than $60.

  • What is the cheapest way to do this if normal trip requires having to tap on at Campbelltown and tap off at North Sydney? Still worthwhile? Might leave home earlier one or two mornings to get this working

    • It depends on how much time you have to spare, when, how much effort you're prepared to put in and whether you some alternative transport. The frequency of bus services from Campbelltown Interchange doesn't look too shabby so you could probably hit your cap with 8 short bus journeys (=29 bus trips) but anything short of that would mean your rail trip wouldn't count as a separate journey but may be discounted if you come close enough to spending $15. I imagine that would take around 2 hours for 4 bus journeys.

      To make fares count as journeys at cost you need to wait an hour before changing modes so unless you can do that your best bet are probably rail hacks before and after work and lunch or break-time bus hacks or single trip journeys.

      If you have a car, bike or like to run you can rack up some rail journeys by tapping on and off at the closest 2 adjacent ungated stations. Tap on and off in one direction only unless you have somebody else's card for the reverse direction. Each round trip counts as a journey.

      If its unfeasible for you to do that close to where you live, you might find it easier to do it between Erskinville and MacDonaldtown which are reputedly the 2 closest stations in Sydney (they're on separate lines).

      An alternative is simply to make rail journey on the system itself, the city circle is probably best for that.

      Rail hacks are best done off-peak of course, but bus or light rail hacks are still cheaper and can be done anytime.

  • the two stops thingfor light rail does not work? i tapped on at capitol square, then tap off at central (1 stop away) then i walked to haymarket (which is 2 stops away from central) and it still says transfer

    • Unfortunately the detail has disappeared from the Opal web site which is what I was trying to remember. The current Wikipedia entry says "Light rail: transfer can occur at the station of tap off plus three additional stations in each direction. Maximum three transfers (four trips per journey)."

      That was changed last month from "two additional stations" and "Maximum two transfers (three trips per journey)."

      It wasn't a very good alternative anyway to 29 trips between 2 stations anyway, I think.

      Sorry, for any inconvenience caused.

      Don't you love how Opal likes the keep all the details of fare calculation from you? Opal. Simple? Not.

  • https://www.facebook.com/sydneymorningherald/videos/10153333…

    Is the video referring to this trick? Not sure cause I don't live in NSW.

  • Has anyone tried tapping-off from a bus, and after a few seconds, tap-on again? I wonder if it will be considered as "transfer" or if the system will throw an error.

  • Yes, inadvertently. There's some timeout intended to detect duplicate tap offs but after than you can tap on again and tap off to reverse it if you did so in error.

  • I'm new to this opal card thread and opal card..

    Can some one explain how I can achieve this on the light rail section between Capitol square and paddys market ?

  • s/Capitol Square/The Star/
    s/Pyrmont Bay/Paddy's Market/
    s/fourth/fifth/
    s/three/four/
    s/1.5/2/
    s/21/28/
    s/22/29/

    Please correct the distances yourself.

    It's really simple. It's just like catching the tram repeatedly between the two stops only you don't need to wait for the tram. It works because Opal has a limit of 4 trips per journey, an 8 journey weekly cap and a $15 daily cap.

    You can do the same thing with buses. If you have more time you can just wait an hour between trips instead.

    • do I only swipe on at capitol square and then off at paddy's walk back to capitol and start over ?

      or do I swipe on at capitol then off at paddy's and then immediately swipe back on again at paddy's and walk back to capitol and swipe off and repeat?

      • I believe the latter was the correct way but it looks like you gotta walk an extra stop after Star at 4th trip to start a new journey.

        I was thinking of just starting morning fitness run at Mac/Erskin rather

        • so capitol square to paddy's is 1 trip, and paddy's back to capitol is the second trip I will need to walk back and forth 10 times to activate the weekly free travel

        • @Archi:

          1 trip = Cap to Paddy or Paddy to Cap
          1 journey = 4 trips

          Weekly reward = 8 journeys = 32 trips
          or 7 journeys if the last journey fits in your plan going home/work etc

          Assuming Cap Sq <> Paddy's is 300m that's 10km
          Guess that will take less than an hour IMO considering tapping time and traffic signal etc but hey I haven't done this either so lmk how it goes if you try it before I do!

          edit: Mac/Erkins is the way to go! maybe.

        • yeah I work close to the light rail in surry hills so the Capitol to paddys seems logical

        • so I take 1x journey to work in the morning..

          That leaves 7 journeys

          I then do the Capitol the paddy shuffle for 6 journeys which is 24 trips… At lunch time

          That leaves 1 journey

          I take 1 journey home in the afternoon. ( this journey should be free If I reach the daily travel limit of $15, which I should have, given that I had done 24 trips at lunch)

          24 trips of 300 metres is 7.2kilometers, I can see i can do that under an hour.

        • If you're traveling more than an hour after your last Opal-run trip, there's no need to pad out that journey to a full 4 trips, so just 21 trips will do. But you may as well catch the tram to the recommended stops which have the shortest distance between them and save a bit of walking. You're bound to be near a tram stop at the right time

          If your first journey of the day costs more than $2.10 you won't be able to hit the journey cap on the first day if you use the same card. It will be cheaper overall to use a TravelTen for that if you catch a single bus but using another Opal card can also save you money if your first journey's fare is $4.50 or more.

        • @Stingo:
          Ah good point thank you! Can i take a single stop bus then light rail immediately? is that still transfer same as train-bus ?

        • No not yet. ATM, bus and light rail are different modes. This will change when the CSELR opens at least for that tram line. If you can't wait an hour you can do a similar thing by catching buses, each 4 trips counts as a journey.

          When/if the tram line opens in Newcastle it is expected to count as rail, just like the current rail replacement bus, not to be confused with buses that travel on the same route which also offer free CBD travel. They also have a ferry that counts as a bus in Newcastle.

          Oh, and the people that used to have the equivalent of an integrated rail fares for travel from/onto the Fassifern - Toronto rail replacement bus can't do that any more with Opal. You can still use available paper ticketing though.

        • I didn't really understand your last paragraph..

          Why won't it work if my first trip of the day is more than $2.10.?

          I go from mascot to Central on Mondays and that's $3.38 in the morning.

        • +1

          @Archi:

          You will fill up $15 before you can finish 8 journey - meaning no journeys are counted after $15 cap.

        • then how would it work normally if I need to do like 32 trips @ 2.10 a trip that's like $67 am I missing some really important details.

          I'm really struggling to understand this.

        • @Archi:
          you are just missing it's 2.10 per journey. 7*2.1 = $14.7 hence 0.30 for the 8th journey. Go google around for the opal history people posted for trains, buses etc.

        • @Archi:
          You'll simply be up for $15 plus the cost of the first journey you do after Monday. If that's more expensive than $3.38 you should put your first Monday journey on another Opal so you can minimise your costs to $15 + $3.38.

          You do know the difference between a trip and a journey, right?

        • Yeah I do now…

          was just thinking. instead of doing multiple journey's on the Monday to activate the free weekly travel which will costing me $15 + $3.38 = $18.38

          I will just simple do
          1 trip a day on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday extra at lunch time

          $3.38 x3 mascot to central
          $2.10 x3 capitol to market city
          $2.94 x2 central to Hurstville (off peak)

          that's $22.32 for the week

          which is about $4 more and a whole lot less walking.
          and less 1x extra opal card to manage.

          I think that'll work.

          total saving is about $7 a week minimum not bad decent Christmas present to myself at the end of the year

        • I don't know where your getting $7 from unless your routine changes after Wednesday lunchtime:
          4 x ($3.38 + $2.94) = $25.28. That's almost $7 more than the minimum you could spend. Taking just two lunch time trips saves you $2.96. Particularly if you have tea breaks etc. see if you can squeeze in 2-3 additional short journeys to your lunch time journeys before your return journey on Tuesday for further small savings. Remember that if you wait an hour between trips they count separately, alternatively every 4 trips on the same mode counts as a journey. That means 5 trips taken one after another with no trips taken within a hour after count as 2 journeys. That would not be difficult to do on Monday and Tuesday lunch and would save you another $1.28!, squeeze in another sometime that's another whopping $0.86. Think of it a slight incentive to walk the light rail route or use public transport when you otherwise wouldn't. Off-peak rail < 10km works almost as well.

  • But how could be $14,70?😰 How does this method work? Every trip costs $2,10 each, 22 trips × 2,10= $46,20, right? Or I misunderstoodsomething?

    • Since trips are within the hour, you only pay for the first trip. The rest are counted as “transfer”

  • Oh yeah that's right 😮

  • If I get a bike and ride from dulwich to central from fist to the last and top on/off every station for 32 times does it works the same?

  • Yes, but 29 trips are all you need. For any journey. Assuming you mean light rail, you want to avoid any trip more than 3km from the start point of the journey. Simplest to ride back and forth between two closely spaced stops. You also have the option of creating one-trip journeys on heavy and light rail by making discontiguous journeys. For light rail, tap-on, travel to the next-stop, tap-off, skip the next 3 stops regardless of direction and repeat. Each of these separated trips counts as a journey. For heavy rail outside of the city, it is sufficient to tap on at another station. Within the city and Kings Cross this is not possible.

  • How is it done at Capitol Square and Paddy's Market?

    I must be doing something wrong because I kept getting "Transfer" and 0.00 credit.

    Do I need to wait one hour in between or can it be done consecutively?

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