Hi guys,
I need to buy new dslr camera. Already used canon 600d, want to buy new one. Thought of buying canon full frame 6d but spending $3k on 6d with lens doesn't make sense as I am not a prof photographer. I am just an average user who will use camera just to capture memories.
Did lot of research but confused. I don't want twin lens kit so it's hard to make a choice among these three models.
Please advise.
Help with Camera Nikon D5300 D7100 or Canon EOS 70D?
L[Deactivated] on 09/11/2014 - 17:38
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I had 600d with twin lens, which I will be giving away to my friend overseas and want to buy new one.
I love to shoot portraits and landscapes.
600d was not too bad but I want something with single lens probably 18-135.I don't think you're very clear with why you want to upgrade. What was limiting with the 600D that you felt the need to upgrade. Are you seeking better IQ, better AF performance, faster response, lighter weight…etc.? What are you criterion for ranking cameras.
To be honest, I think if you want something with a single lens, you're better off getting something like a Sony RX100 and using that. Alternatives include the Canon G1X, which is also excellent.
The whole point of DSLRs is interchangeable lenses. If you don't need interchangeable lenses, you get equivalent image quality from the RX100 or G1X in a much smaller package and less cost.
And don't forget about the newly (or soon to be?) released Panasonic LX100!
Did you like the Canon? Why switch then?
I'm biased to Canon anyways. Found it easier to use and more lens. Plus it's made by Canon and not owned by or associated with a company involved in the nuclear power biz (Mitsubishi Electric).
Just go Canon.
Plus it's made by Canon and not owned by or associated with a company involved in the nuclear power biz (Mitsubishi Electric).
Are you really saying that there's something wrong with nuclear power, that there's something wrong with Mitsubishi for being associated with nuclear power and that there is something wrong with Nikon for being associated with Mitsubishi?
That's like saying I don't like you because your friend's friend is a bad person?
My 2 cents - Go buy a nice Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 lens, then attach it to whatever body you can afford.
The D5300 is a nice unit. But if you don't need GPS or Wifi, try a D3300, essentially the same thing with a few less AF points.
Look - it really depends what you're going to use it for. As mentioned above - mirrorless is typically a good way to go for casual shots.
What do you feel is the limiting factor in the Canon 600D? AF points? Weather proofing? As an "average user who will use camera just to capture memories" - a 600D is realistically not going to bottleneck you in any way at all. Rather then spending money on a new body - you'd be much better off buying a used 24-105 f4L - an excellent lens for the price that it goes around for used, you'd notice much more difference from that in contrast to buying a new body.
In regards to what options you've provided though - neither. Grab a second hand Canon 5D MK2 body for around $1k - and if you need a good lens - grab a 24-105 f4L or 17-40 f4L (they go for around the $500 mark used) to go with it. Gives you an excellent full-frame kit for sub $2k.
Even better if you already have EF lenses for the Canon system.
Once again - what do you actually plan to use the camera for, and what do you feel is limiting you in regards to the 600D?
OP said in a reply before that he has been using the 600D with the twin kit lenses. I'm with you on this one, I'm pretty confused as to why OP wants to upgrade. He hasn't mentioned specifically better AF or better IQ, which leads me to think that he just wants to upgrade to a "better camera" without understanding what a "better camera" will actually give him.
I'm glad the mirrorless and high performance compacts market exist, they're perfect for OP who just want to take nice shots but aren't too concerned with specialty applications or multiple lenses. Given that OP is going for an APS-C/DX format sensor anyway, I would probably suggest getting a Sony A5000 or A6000 camera with the twin kit lenses, but I feel that even that is overkill and that something like a G1X is completely sufficient with a near APS-C sized sensor and a great lens.
The 24-105, 17-40 and perhaps adding a 70-200 will make a pro-level full-frame kit for quite cheap, but I'm not sure it's ideal for OP, to be honest.
I would recommend a full frame, used D700 if you want to go pro; 12mpix is heaps of rez for anyone (36mpix is insane file size) and despite being trained as a pro i shoot JPEG for commercial and native DNG (convert to from nikon/canon file format) for art.
But for daily use, day in day out the Nikon 5300 would be my first pic anytime! Awesome bit of kit… Crop sensor, so you need DX lens (but can use FF unlike Canon's)
You can capture shots you can charge for, family snaps or be the camera you always have with you; its the best one to start with.
I have had canon, pentax, olympus, shot nikon and iphone but love the N5300 becuase its bang for buck the best spend by far!
I bought the DS5300 with the VRII lens and absolutely loved it. You can get the same kit I got for sub $700 from Kogan. It's a good $300 cheaper from anywhere I've seen. Arrived to Sydney in less than a week.
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nikon-d5300-dslr-camera-18-55mm-…
Happy to help, but it'd be great if you could let us know why you wanted to upgrade? Because different cameras are good for different things. For example, if you need continuous tracking AF, then the D7100 is the way to go, if you need an articulating screen, the D5300 is the way to go…etc. Lots of variables
Perhaps some questions to start off with are:
1) What about the 600D do you find limiting? What do you want to do that the 600D doesn't have the features for?
2) What lenses are you going to buy? Are they available on Nikon, Canon or both?
3) Are you heavily invested in the Canon system (i.e. do you have more than a couple of Canon lenses)?
4) What sort of photography do you do (memories is broad) - e.g. landscapes, portraits, sports, cars, events?
5) What is your photography budget? Not your camera budget, your overall budget, how much would you like to spend on photography equipment in general?
6) Are you sure that a DSLR is for you? (Mirrorless are generally better for family shooters these days)
…etc.
The cameras you listed are all different cameras, there are lots of models because each one of them suits a different purpose. Believe it or not, an expensive camera is not always better than a cheaper one and full frame is not always better than crop.
Also, as a footnote, if you are interested in getting better image quality rather than better AF performance or stuff like that, you need to buy lenses, filters and lights (flashes…etc.), not bodies.