Vittoria Espresso Coffee Beans or Ground 1kg - BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE. Save $26.79 or $24.69 depending on which one you're buying.
Bargain price for quality coffee.
Vittoria Espresso Coffee Beans or Ground 1kg - BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE @ Woolworths
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Nice deal. If I knew of a good local roaster I'd consider that, too.
This works out (in my unit-cost mind) at $3.09 per 250g portion.For anyone interested in fresh coffee, I think it's best you link up with wherever there is discussion of coffee roasters in your area. foodwinecoffee.com.au forum? I'm sure there are other forums, too.
I'm not knocking this deal - it's a good one - just put it in context, as not everyone wants to go to a local roaster. Some people are happy with stale coffee. :)
Thanks Anthony. I forgot that one. Seems to be the place to go.
Any other coffee sites? I read Coffeesnobs censors all posts that mention non-sponsors. Don't know how people accept that - imagine if OzBargain deleted any deals from businesses that don't advertise on the site.
I wasn't aware of that however a quick google did bring up some info (though it was from 2007 so things may have changed)
Saying that the site is still a great resource for anything coffee and coffee equipment.
I guess i can understand only wanting sponsors mentioned as the site might not be around without sponsors funding (Though USA hosting is not that expensive).
So just use the site for information however if you intend to purchase something dont go and buy things solely from places people mention. However i would never blindly buy something based on what someone in the internet said, i would look at other stores first to see where i could buy it from.
Pretty cheap, but it will go stale!!
While we are 'chucking out' some coffee websites, check out www.beanhunter.com to find local coffee shops and some user reviews!Thanks for this! It's good to see if there is a choice between a local roaster and your local supplier of the prepackaged stuff.
Vittoria (Arabica) is nice coffee. It doesn't have the bitter after taste like some I have tried.
The packs are vacuum sealed so it should stay fresh for quite a while, shouldn't it?
The packs are vacuum sealed so it should stay fresh for quite a while, shouldn’t it?
Vacuum packed coffee is already stale.
Once coffee is roasted it gives off gasses and continue to do so for days after the beans have been roasted. These gasses cannot be present in the coffee once it is packaged otherwise the package could rupture and leak coffee.
To ensure there is no gas present in the coffee it is ground and allowed to sit before packaging, while this makes for easy packaging it allows the oil present on the coffee to go rancid and also allows the coffee to oxidise.
So what you are buying isn't really fresh, it has been sitting long before it was packaged.
You say that it is ground and allowed to sit, so does buying whole beans make much different to the freshness and gases/packaging process?
so does buying whole beans make much different to the freshness and gases/packaging process?
Whole beans are better as there is a smaller surface area which can oxidise however they still need to be "de gassed" before packaging. You will notice some packaged coffee has a one way valve in the bag, this allows for the coffee to be immediately packaged without fear of the bag rupturing and allows the coffee to be sent out while it is fresher
Think of a peeled apple (to represent a coffee bean) and the amount of apple which can go brown (which is oxidation) and now the same apple cut into many pieces (representing ground coffee) the apple cut into pieces will have a larger amount of brown apple as it has a greater area which can oxidise.
However the freshness/lifespan period of a roasted bean still depends on how it is roasted.
A dark roasted bean will produce more oil (notice dark beans are glossy, which is the coffee bean oil) whereas a light roasted bean will not produce as much oil.
Oil sitting on a bean will go off and cause the coffee not to taste as good.Generally roasted coffee should be consumed within 1-2 weeks (depending on the darkness of the roast) for it to taste best.
If you drunk a coffee with beans roasted 2 days ago and then another with 2 week old beans you would be amazed at the difference.
@anthony: Thanks for the info. I think I'll avoid this deal, because a kilo will take me months to go through and it'll go stale.
Been thinking of ordering some Campos online. Never tried it, but people like to go on about it so I'll give it a try. In a smaller bag…
Pity they don't have 2 for 1 on Vittoria ORO.
I honestly think people are getting a bit ahead of themselves on all this coffee science!
A coffee snob mate told me once prepacked is fine, you can check if you give the bag a little squeeze and sniff near the vent. If the aroma is reminiscent of an ashtray, then yeah it really is stale, but if it's just got a nice coffee smell you're good to go!
My Greek, Italian and Lebanese friends (and trust me, these cultures KNOW how to make a good coffee) buy in bulk like this and whack 'em in the freezer! I've never been served a bad cuppa at any of their homes! ;)
Just a layman's experience, I got my two bags coz I reckon it's a good deal! :)
Of course there is a lot of wank in coffee, just like wine.
Pre packaged serves a certain need and it does it well however ground coffee should really be used immediately and whole beans should be used within 1-2 weeks to get the best flavour.
Aside from the coffee used there are other things which influence the taste of the coffee like the machine, water temperature, how the basket was filled and how tightly the coffee was pressed in. You could have the best coffee in the world, mess everything up and make a coffee no better than instant coffee.
Saying that 'best' is a relative term and completley depends on what you think a good coffee should taste like so if you like the beans buy them and save just under $30!
whack ‘em in the freezer!
Freezing coffee isnt always the best thing to do.
Every time you remove it from the freezer new air enters the bag, once this air is in the freezer the moisture in the air will condense and be absorbed by the coffee or freeze onto it. This is made worse if you live in a tropical area. (The same applies to storing coffee in the fridge)Simply keeping the coffee in a dark, cool place is all you need to do.
Again, I'm a KISS principle kinda guy, and my layman's experience tells me freezing coffee (like most consumables) works.
As you say, given all the wank and pseudo-science in the coffee world, as with all aspects of the coffee making process, freezing is hotly debated; you'll get as many arguments for as against if you search. To wit:
http://www.home-barista.com/store-coffee-in-freezer-conclusi…The point you make about water absorbtion/crystallization is probably valid from a strict scientific perspective, measured in a lab, but possibly not so much from a pragmatic one. IMHO the degradation appears negligible in practice, when it comes to storage it really seems it's the quality of the product you start out with, more so than the minutiae of how it is stored, that determines the end result (all other things being equal of course). FWIW the Vittoria stuff's actually pretty darn good! :)
I don't pretend to be an afficionado, but I've experienced beans from local roasters, the well regarded Bravo in Sydney, stuff I've watched roasted in Bali and brought home myself next day, and numerous dept store/deli/supermarket/cafe etc varieties and my modest palate can discern no difference between day 1 and day 61; although I'm sure there are those out there that believe they can, so this method won't suit them! Cheers! ;)
I find that coffee keeps fine in bean form, but after a few days after being ground it smells like old cigarettes (as someone said above.)
If you drink espresso I'm sure you need a burr grinder, freshly roasted and ground coffee and a really good machine for the best experience.
But if you drink latte/capaccino the milk you use, the foam you create, the size and amount of coffee and how hard you tamp it are the key factors in making good coffee assuming you have a reasonably good machine - I have an old DeLonghi machine now discontinued (now you have to pay at least 3 times more for their cheapest model!!!)
And my coffee tastes great :)
Buy one get one free, a good deal.
But paying $25/kg for stale coffee doesn't make sense.
For the same price or less go and buy beans from your local coffee shop :)