How do you make extra money?

pyro love bird on 07/08/2014 - 01:09

Hi everyone,

I'm a bit curious as to how you guys make some extra money, I'm currently a uni student balancing an enge degree (kill me!), working at a family business (for no pay), life, and everyday expenses. It's tough to make ends meet at times, but I've found that I'm able to work on odd occasions around the uni (sometimes they need someone to do some filing at uni for a couple hours). But aside from the odd job I don't have any income. I've found that keeping an eye out for the weekly emails at uni have helped find odd jobs around the uni, and keeping an eye on the notice boards means that I can find a study or two which pay pretty well (either gift cards or cash depending).

I also do online surveys when they shoot me an email, it's slow money, but at least every few months I get an extra $50. Focus groups are great too, but they're hard to come by at times. How have you found some extra money? This is all from a uni student sort of situation but I'd like to hear from those of you who aren't at uni as well.

Thanks everyone, I hope this makes for an interesting topic and hope you all have a nice day :)

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Comments

    • scrimshaw on 07/08/2014 - 01:32
      +4

      You need to be savvy with this to make a profit though. Also, if there are competitors with the same idea, you're going to have a bad time.

      As a university student, you should have at least 3 days of free time (more if you're on part time study load) so use that to work a real part time job. I did desktop support. Pays OK at $22 an hour.

      Also remember to pickup new skills that could be useful later. That could be programming or web design or even knowing how to make coffee. When you are out of uni you may actually find it much harder than you think to find a full time job in your field! HAving these skills will ensure you can get an interim job so you won't have giant gaps in your resume.

      • juventino on 07/08/2014 - 01:46
        +1

        In my case, I only look at popular items. Few years back Nudie jeans was massively popular at around $275-300 ish a pair. I sourced it from around 20ish European online store by a combination of cashback, discount code, VAT refund and sales. for around $70-$200.

        Sold it around $180-$250 a pair. On average made $70-100 profit a pair. Good times hahah

    • pyro love bird on 07/08/2014 - 14:42

      I actually was considering the items that end up going on clearance and they're not bad, but I've got to actually have the funds to stock up first and it's hard to make a sale at times, so atm it's sort of a no go for me :(

    • ronnknee on 07/08/2014 - 22:17
      +74

      I find it a bit unethical to make money off friends.

        • [Deactivated] on 08/08/2014 - 00:03
          +16

          I can see the rationale behind doing that, juvenito, but honestly if I found out a friend of mine was helping me out in finding bargains/good deals for something I want or need, then pocketing some of the savings themselves along the way - I'd be pretty pissed. Well, maybe not pissed off… more that I'd think that friend is a bit of a sly bastard lol.

          Are they aware that you do that, or is it a secret thing you do?

          and please don't take this as an attack (even though it sounds like one lol). I'm just curious about the social implications of a seemingly minor (and in one sense, reasonable, from your perspective at least) act.

        • juventino on 08/08/2014 - 00:52
          -1

          @waterlogged turnip:

          For friends, yeah they are aware of it somehow. I tell them I will add commission on top of it. Only when I deem there is huge gap between the price I find and what they are comfortable paying for though. In some cases, I have to provide an invoice, so there is really nothing to hide.

          if the difference is small,I can't be bothered. Just give them as is.

          I am in Jakarta atm, here commission not your base salary is where you earn your money. It's a public secret :)

        • aeoz on 08/08/2014 - 07:53

          @juventino:

          So you still do it now even in Jakarta? Or are you just going for holidays?

        • ronnknee on 08/08/2014 - 08:08
          +9

          I also help my friends out when they want to purchase electronics; they tell me what they want and I direct them to the cheapest place. Yes, had they made purchases from big retailers, they would've gotten ripped heaps so we're saving them money. However, I'd want them to save the full amount and not add any hidden fees like your service. I just think it's wrong to exploit friends like that. I guess it comes down to what we value more.

        • juventino on 08/08/2014 - 14:20

          @aeoz:

          can't do what i normally do. Retail setting is a bit different here plus import threshold stays at $50 making it difficult to import products without being charged taxes.

          still get commissions distributing local wholesale of clothings and motorcycles though

        • juventino on 08/08/2014 - 14:30
          +1

          @ronnknee:

          I don't have any hidden fees. It's laid out, comes with invoice too if the purchase is electronics for warranty purposes.

          While I appreciate what you're doing since I also do it depending on cases, I also deal with everything that came with the purchases. Ordering, searching for reviews,research various overseas retailers, dealing with courier and post office, shipping it to my friend's place, process returns if unsatisfied.

        • TQS on 09/08/2014 - 02:05

          @juventino: I have to say, thanks God, I'm not ur friend! N would never want to have a friend like you….

        • zelda707 on 09/08/2014 - 10:19

          @juventino: you give your friends invoices?

        • juventino on 09/08/2014 - 14:19
          +1

          @zelda707:

          Of course, the invoice comes from the company I bought the products. Need an invoice for warranty and tax purposes.

        • nikey2k27 on 11/08/2014 - 08:42

          @waterlogged turnip: it now about firend you could sell it on ebay.

        • aeoz on 11/08/2014 - 10:29

          @juventino:

          Would you mind elaborating on the commissions you receive through wholesale distributing?

        • juventino on 11/08/2014 - 15:18

          @aeoz:

          sorry aeoz, I don't do wholesale. It's a very small side project. One week I earn, some weeks I don't.

          I do have some contacts from Asian countries who are willing to give me commission, provided that I can help them push their products in Australian market. But I am really bad at talking and convincing people.

        • willy000 on 12/08/2014 - 15:18
          +1

          I avoid having friends like you.
          If I see a good bargain on here or anywhere else I forward the link to my friends rather than trying making money from them.

      • GnarlyKnuckles on 10/08/2014 - 02:01
        +7

        Yeah juvers, I'm trying to work out how the scenario goes…
        So a friend approaches you and says "Do you know where I can get a cheap new Ipad"? Then you say "I do, but I'm not telling you. Instead, you give me all the money you're willing to pay for one, and I'll get you an Ipad for a bit less than that, and pocket the difference."
        Is that how it goes? If so, you have a somewhat odd definition of the word "friend".

        • [Deactivated] on 10/08/2014 - 02:06

          lol @ Gnarly

        • juventino on 10/08/2014 - 07:08
          +1

          You've been around ozbargain long enough to know that Ipad doesn't discount that much. I don't do Ipad as it is easily found, I just ask them to come to my big w store and give them my woolies staff discount. Is that ethical enough, Gnarly ?

          Oh wait, maybe it isn't, I could have pocketed the 5% discount myself but I don't because it is a straight forward process that take 2 mins of my time

          I am offering help and services to my friends and others and I am charging whatever I deem reasonable. I don't force them to take it either.

          People help friends without return. I GET THAT.I do it too most of the time

          In the event where I do charge, I do more than just referring them to cheapest prices if you bother to read :)

        • GnarlyKnuckles on 11/08/2014 - 03:35
          -1

          @juventino:
          Check this out Juvers:

          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/156209

          I reckon you could make a killing here, depending on how many girl-"friends" you have…

        • juventino on 11/08/2014 - 07:20

          @GnarlyKnuckles:

          I see you have reading apprehension issues

        • aeoz on 11/08/2014 - 10:29
          -1

          @GnarlyKnuckles:

          Please don't be rude.

    • drogba on 08/08/2014 - 20:17
      +6

      some "friend" you are..

    • aeoz on 11/08/2014 - 10:47
      +3

      It's sad to see you getting downvoted and attacked like this although you had good intentions to share.

      The problem is that Australians and Indonesians have a different culture in approaching this. Not saying that Indonesians are a "friend eat friend" culture but it's more common in Indonesia to have friends offering services to each other (this is also prevalent in China, India, or any high populated developing-developed country). Many people are willing to offer a service of looking for your desired product/service and giving you a cheaper price, with them getting a reasonable commission. This is what juventino did since he is savvy in looking for deals and offered this service to his friends, who might not have the time or willingness to scrape through bargains. Australians perceive this as a friend eat friend attitude because it's too expensive to hire someone to look for your deals, on the contrary this is normal for Indonesians who can hire someone's services for cheap (hey, the population of Jakarta itself is more than the whole of Australia, of course labour is cheap!).

      This is a basic generalisation of the difference between cultures but I hope this clears up some misunderstandings.

      • dealman on 12/08/2014 - 17:19
        +1

        Precisely,
        I cannot imagine how some Parents charge kids "RENT"

        Worse still found one of my distant friend paying his mum to come to his place and clean the house.

        Crazy, this is what she gets for bringing him up..

  • phamid on 07/08/2014 - 01:31
    +16

    Swap out the family business for actual work. Unless you're living with the parents, then there's the trade-off.
    Some unis have notetaking jobs you can do, if you're good at taking notes, but I see the big thing killing you here is the family business. Honestly, if they're using you for free labour, taking advantage of you and expecting you to work your ass off, they need to start thinking of your needs too.

    • juventino on 07/08/2014 - 01:49
      +25

      OP is most likely of Asian descent. This is just part of being Asian. I myself used to spend 25 hours a week taking care of my family's grocery store without pay :)

      • pyro love bird on 07/08/2014 - 14:44
        +3

        Yeah, I think I work at least 40-45 hours a week.

        • phamid on 07/08/2014 - 14:46
          +9

          Wow, that's a lot of hours for no pay!
          Either ask for a cut of the business, get paid something or find something else. I know it's your family, but that's too many hours to give away, especially if you're wanting to do some work experience for your degree.

        • hahaboy on 07/08/2014 - 22:39
          +3

          how are you still doing my fulltime eng degree with those hours?

        • pyro love bird on 08/08/2014 - 01:18
          +2

          Well it's hard enough running the place and making ends meet with just us as it is, I don't think asking for a cut is going to go anywhere. If I dont work then no home, not much of a choice, and its hard when its my parents to say no. They call the shots :(

        • pyro love bird on 08/08/2014 - 01:19

          @hahaboy: I don't even know, but with very little sleep? Bad health? haha

          There better be some bloody good paying work after this!

        • lostn on 08/08/2014 - 06:13
          +6

          @EPICSALETIME: The payoff is that one day he will inherit the family business, or part of it at least.

        • ExtraSalt on 08/08/2014 - 09:01
          +11

          holy crap. eng degree and 40-45hrs work a week….unpaid? your motivation and drive are both commendable. Hopefully it pay's off for you in the future when you get your dream job

        • phamid on 08/08/2014 - 09:13
          +1

          @lostn: What if the business closes and then pyro has to support the family? I could be a likely outcome and there goes his hopes in getting a dream job. It'll be a never-ending cycle of running the business to support the family and exploiting the children for free labor.

          @pyro love bird: As much as your parents tell you what to do, you're going to need to make adult decisions too. You could always give them an ultimatum (cut or you leave) I'd see it as a Win/Win, you either get a cut of the business or you finally get the freedom to make your own decisions.

        • Heizenberg on 08/08/2014 - 22:29

          no you don't

        • Elee3112 on 09/08/2014 - 15:02
          +1

          @pyro love bird:

          Well… put it this way, lets say you still work 40 hours a week.

          Lets say you work in the dodgiest Asian you can think of, and they pay you $10 per hour, well below the minimum, you get $400 a week.

          Going with a rent of $200 per week, you will have $200 to spend on food, fuel, bills, whatever else.

          Are you really worse off?

          Keep in mind that is an income of WELL below minimum.

        • frinik on 09/08/2014 - 15:56
          +3

          @pyro love bird: I'll be brutally honest and say it doesnt sound like a good business to be in if they can't pay a minimum wage for somebody outside to help out. Even inheriting the business in its current state dosent sound appealing. How long has the business been running for? Maybe you could look at ways of increasing profits within the business instead of looking for work elsewhere. Work on the business not just in it. If its an asian grocer or restaurant, look for alternative ways of marketing the business. It may be easier said than done and easy for an outsider to give random advice on a website but its just my 2c.

        • xordis on 10/08/2014 - 22:59

          @hahaboy:

          It's quite easy to do a uni degree and work 40+ hours a week
          I would average 40-50 a week working at Coles when I was doing my degree.
          Hardest part of it all was finishing uni and having to take a pay cut to get a real job :-) (That obviously picked up pretty quickly)

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 00:19

          @xordis: Did it ever feel like a bit of a heavy load for you? I'd honestly rather spend the time studying rather than struggle with the time that I do have to compound everything into my head!

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 00:26
          +2

          @frinik: I respect people who are brutally honest :) So thankyou.

          The trouble is that we've had people work with us in the past, they really don't work very well, many things are over looked (stock doesn't get taken out and is left to expire/ whilst asking if we've got anymore of __ left they'd say no when we've got 10 boxes of it and we go ahead and order another 20 boxes, we end up losing quite a bit as the stock piles up) and a certain family member tends to just let go and is laid back whilst leaving the person we've hired to do all the work, which really isn't fair. I know that they are stressed running their own business, but letting it go completely is no way to run it. I also think that most of the time, the people you hire to work don't work as hard as those that own/ family members. We've had people slack off, read the paper, have very long toilet breaks or sit on the phone for hours. I guess we got quite sick of it.

          If I wasn't at uni, I think that I could run the place and maybe make something work, but I don't really have any experience in running my own business, my only experience comes from partly running it and most of the time I don't get the last say.

          I thankyou again for your input, I truly appreciate it :)

          I believe that those who are brutally honest make the best people, they might be upfront about things, but at least you know they're not deceiving you.

        • xordis on 11/08/2014 - 01:07

          @pyro love bird:

          It never really bothered me that much.
          I did an IT degree, so it's probably a little easier.
          My passion has always been computers so doing an IT degree was easy.
          Plus I am guessing it's easier to do programming than engineering at home.
          For me it was just playing around and learning new stuff.
          I would normally knock over assignments in the first few days of getting them.

          Also my work hours at Coles were generally out of hours so I still had whole days at home to study.
          An IT degree back then was something like 12 contact hours a week. I got lucky with class selections and was only doing 2-2.5 days a week at uni.

          I wasn't top of the class by no means, but although an IT degree was needed to get a job back then, it wasn't long after they started taking people straight out of school.

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 02:04

          @xordis: Wow, I still admire your work ethic though, so many people just lounge about at home because they don't have to do anything that way. I'm glad to hear that you found your passion so early on and stuck with it, a lot of people change their minds after a while.

          Maybe I'm just not cut out for it, but I struggle with engineering + chemistry. I'm at uni 5 days a week, mind you, they're not always full 8-5 days. It sounds tough in the industry, how are you going now? I hope you're well, the economy is tough at the moment from the sounds of things (people losing jobs and such).

        • xordis on 11/08/2014 - 08:08

          @pyro love bird:

          Stick with it. It will pay off in the end when you have a decent job. This is assuming you actually like what you are doing and want to do it.
          As i said my uni degree was easy as I knew it's what I wanted to do. So many people I went through school with had no idea what they wanted to do and spent the first few years jumping between degrees or just took whatever job they could and now are stuck with it.

          It gets hard when you have 5 contact hours a week. My first semester I think was 5 contact days. I tried to cram as much in every day from then on which might seem like overload, but for me it was an hour commute to uni each day, so having those 3 or less contact hours a week really helped as it gave me an extra 2 hours a day I wasn't commuting to uni.
          Being so far from uni and having to drive all or part the way meant I never got into the drinking side of things as well which really helped. Plenty of time to catch up on drinking once you have a job I think.
          I was also pretty strict on myself to get up at 7am each day and get some uni work done. I am grateful we didn't have the distractions we have today though. There is so much TV/internet/online gaming etc that I never had back then.

          IT is tough at the moment especially in Brisbane. However being one of the few (seems it's that way these days) who have a uni degree backing me I haven't had any real issues. A lot of what I learnt in my degree is still being called on today (programming languages change, but the logic and most of the structure still remains)

        • AsSeenOnTv on 11/08/2014 - 13:06

          The other benefit to having a regular paying job is it helps get your first job after uni. I know asians who didn't work at all because their parents though the job of a student is to study (a little different to your situation i know) and they really struggled to get a first job because even a McDonalds job shows you can work in a team, take orders, turn up to work etc and they didn't have that.

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 14:11

          @xordis: I don't drink at all so I guess that helps, I'm not into partying and such either so I don't attend the huge parties and drinking fests held at uni, which I guess really helps out, but I don't have time for it even if I was into that stuff :P

          It takes me about 45 mins driving here or 1-1.5 hours public transport, which adds to the time that I could spend studying :( And I agree with you, although I don't use social media sites (facebook, twitter etc) I still think that we've got so many distractions (youtube) that it becomes a bit difficult to concentrate at the best of times. Although in saying that I'm only ever on it when I'm waiting for the train or commuting.

          Isn't IT a good area to be in though? We'll always need people in that industry and the know-how right? Technology will always be advancing so I doubt you'd ever become obsolete.

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 14:12

          @asseenontv: I don't get paid, but I suppose that my work counts as experience right? It's helped me get jobs in marketing and such though that has nothing to do with my degree

        • xordis on 11/08/2014 - 22:09

          @pyro love bird:

          I would have suggested giving up all social media but it seems you have that under control which is good. I am social media free as well with just a few forums like these distracting me (but in a good way really)

          IT (as well as engineering) is a sketchy business to be in at the moment. I am lucky to have started with a company that has a CEO who hates outsourcing, so we are pretty lucky. However there are some around who happily outsource to other countries in a hope to save a few dollars. They think they are saving heaps (last place I was with thought it was 5:1), but in reality it's not much better than getting someone from here really by the time you factor in the true costs.
          You being asian will have the advantage of probably speaking a second language which make make you more attractive to a company if they are into outsourcing.

          The other hidden type of outsourcing in IT is the move to the "cloud". We think it's all great and makes things easier which is does, but essentially we are sending that money overseas again through a different method. In the end we are just spoiling it for our own economy as we are exporting the dollars instead of spending them locally which isn't great. This is happening everywhere and has for sometime though. Buying an "Australian built" car probably means you are still exporting a large percentage as the components are built offshore.

          So really, IT (and engineering) are still ok to be in and probably as bad off as most industries, but we are all suffering from the belt tightening that has been happening the last five or so years post GFC.

        • pyro love bird on 12/08/2014 - 00:06

          @xordis: It does seem rather tough, though I'm glad to hear you're doing okay for yourself :)

          I don't think being asian is always a good thing, I think I read or overheard someone saying that Caucasians are the most likely to get jobs/ are the most attractive in terms of job hunting and such. There are stigmas and other things that come with being asian. (The assumption that I can't speak english well and other presumed racial issues).

          The cloud? I don't know what that is. I do wholeheartedly agree with you in the sense that we are losing a lot of our money by sourcing materials and services from overseas, but to produce something in Australia (completely produce it) is ridiculously expensive because the price ends up sky rocketing. People expect a high pay for hand made things whereas in places like China, manual labour has really poor wages.

          I think in particular small businesses suffered a lot and from what I've seen to this day still suffer from what happened with the GFC 5 years ago.

      • jacknthebeanstalk on 07/08/2014 - 19:55
        -1

        Damn. I'm a white-washed Asian and in high school I used to give my mate so much s*it because I thought it was stupid how he didn't get paid "helping out" his family's restaurant instead of hanging with me.

  • Luminary on 07/08/2014 - 01:38
    +2

    I heard of this recently but I haven't personally used it airtasker.com

  • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2014 - 01:49
    +1

    currently a uni student balancing an enge degree (kill me!), working at a family business (for no pay)

    That's crazy, amigo. How on earth do you get by!

    Have you ever brought up the issue of needing some money to get by with your family?

    • pyro love bird on 07/08/2014 - 14:41
      +21

      I struggle. But I'm sure there are people out there a lot worse off.

      • Rizzy on 07/08/2014 - 16:37
        +37

        WOW…Your attitude is great! You attitude is far better than that guy who wanted centrelink ontop of his apprenticeship. You are doing 40-45hours per week with 0 pay and you respond with "I struggle. But I'm sure there are people out there a lot worse off." - That is great attitude. If I had a job available I would hire you.

        I too was struggling to balance studying engineering and work. I decided on making websites, IT support, labour work and carpentry from time to time. That was quite fun because I was learning new ideas and how to engage clients.

        This may be a little off topic - What I failed to do was getting experience in engineering (Civil) before I left university. It made it really hard to find a job. I tell everyone I know at uni doing whatever course, get some experience before you leave. I am not sure if you can but try cut down working for free at the family business and start working for free in the engineering sector. This will benefit you alot.

        I hope this helps. Good luck with your Degree and work.

        • pyro love bird on 08/08/2014 - 01:24

          Hey Rizzy, thanks, but I'm just being realistic, but I do really appreciate the thought of giving me a job if you had one.

          I'm actually terrible with coding, I can't understand a thing and it confuses the heck out of me! Labour work is a bit out of the question, I'm not very strong and I'm only 1.5m tall so I doubt anyone would hire me for that. I'm currently studying chemical enge & chem (uni is making me not love chem anymore). The thing is though, no one is willing to offer someone with no experience and no idea of what they're meant to do any work. Even work experience, I've asked around a couple of places but no one is willing to let me even peek.

          Thankyou :)

        • humdogg on 11/08/2014 - 10:14
          +1

          @pyro love bird:

          with your knowledge of chemistry, maybe make some crystal methamphetamine. I saw a documentary series about a cancer patient who did this, worked out reasonably well.

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 14:12

          @humdogg: Isn't that an illegal drug or am I thinking of something else?

        • nubzy on 11/08/2014 - 15:05
          +1

          @pyro love bird: yes, it is. He is making a Breaking Bad reference ;)

        • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 15:25

          @nubzy: Ah, thanks for the clarification :)

    • leeroys_dad on 07/08/2014 - 05:06
      +3

      Double about 10 times and you usually hit the maximum table limit

      • MelbBargainChaser77 on 07/08/2014 - 07:10
        +10

        Coming from an ex Crown Casino employee I can tell you the table max is reached within 4 or 5 bets. Ive seen so many people try to do this on roulette, or playing 2 of the 3 columns thinksing they are guarenteed a win with a 65% hit chance. Sometimes it works, most times it didnt

        • jacknthebeanstalk on 07/08/2014 - 19:58
          +2

          Can confirm. First time in the Casino, decided to play on 2 columns. Had $20 and got up to $300. A week later I come back and do the same thing and it was more like -$300.

    • natman on 07/08/2014 - 10:08
      +15

      That's the Martingale system. It doesn't magically change the fact that there is a 0 on the table. The odds are still in favour of the casino.

      • marquise on 08/08/2014 - 11:16
        +2

        And now also double zeros to contend with!

    • Cluster on 07/08/2014 - 15:21
      +9

      I've watched people lose huge bundles of money this way, even on online gambling that had a 1% edge. 49.5% chance of winning to double your money. Can't go wrong with Martingale, right? Nup, it's not unusual to have 10 50/50 losses in a row. I have personally seen 16 in a row.

      Money lost after 1 bet = $1
      After 2 = $3
      After 3 = $7
      After 4 = $15
      After 5 = $31
      After 6 = $63
      After 7 = $127
      After 8 = $255
      After 9 = $511
      After 10 = $1023

      Your next bet is $1024, to win $1 overall. Good luck.

      • Diji1 on 08/08/2014 - 21:08
        +3

        You mean he hasn't got a system where the house doesn't win? Well that's me blown over!

  • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2014 - 07:32

    I used to work at a department store on the weekends in addition to my office job during the week, though this will eat into your free time.

    Otherwise can you substitute a couple days at the family store during the week for actual paid work?

  • scotty on 07/08/2014 - 09:26
    +8

    Why no pay with family business? If the business itself is actually profitable, you can argue with your family that by being paid, you are taking away the "tax liability" :)

    Otherwise have you tried those out-sourcing sites doing errands? Airtasker for example.

    • geek001 on 07/08/2014 - 09:37

      +1 for this. Australia has a tax-free threshold for individuals, at least negotiate for pay up to that limit. If OP has Asian descent parents, they would probably rather pay you than pay "the man". :)

    • Pigey on 07/08/2014 - 10:57
      +56

      What tax liability? It's an Asian Business that isn't generating any profit ;)

      • hahaboy on 07/08/2014 - 22:42

        I had a good laugh at this.

      • georgedn on 08/08/2014 - 09:44
        +5

        Gotta love 'Cash Only'

        • juventino on 08/08/2014 - 16:05
          +1

          @Davo93:
          gotta love 'two books' in every Asian joints :)

      • xordis on 10/08/2014 - 23:03

        Yeah, the workers at my local Asian Bakery have the best memory.
        They can do a whole days trade without having to use the register.

        I'm sure they are honest at tax time :-)

    • pyro love bird on 11/08/2014 - 00:29
      +1

      Thanks so much Scotty, I'm constantly on Airtasker now :) Great site, but it seems a lot of it is people who are looking for skilled people. :( ie. fixing technical issues etc

  • airzone on 07/08/2014 - 10:08
    +3

    With a photocopier.

  • ilsan0 on 07/08/2014 - 10:11

    Extort or Revolt else default.

  • donga100 on 07/08/2014 - 10:28
    +4

    Ask your employer for a pay increase.

    Are you claiming Centrelink?

    When I was in uni I used to volunteer for clinical trials of pharmaceuticals. By law they are not allowed to pay you for this but they are allowed to reimburse your time and transportation which is quite generous. I would get around $150-$200 per day plus free meals and it was tax free and didn't count against your Centrelink payments. This was about 10 years ago so rates have probably increased now too. Sure, the needles and the tubes in the nose/throat were a bit painful/uncomfortable but the money was good.

    • pyro love bird on 07/08/2014 - 14:46
      +3

      No, I still live with my parents so no centerlink money for me.

      I have on many occassions asked but it usually results in me not having a home.

      Actually, I've seen the clinical trial things around but they seem quite risky and my immune system is terrible, I don't really want to die for a few hundred dollars.

      • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2014 - 15:07
        +2

        You can claim Centrelink even if you're living at home. I can't remember the requirements off the top of my head, but look into it. You're obviously working hard at uni and with the family business… you deserve some financial help, so give it a shot and see if you're eligible.

        • BangkokDessert on 07/08/2014 - 17:20
          +2

          pretty sure if you're still living at home there are a few ways to get it..

          first is you are declared as independent :
          - 22 or older
          - worked more than x hours in y amount of time

          second is a means test on your parents, if they own anything for example the house you live in, then you won't qualify!

        • [Deactivated] on 07/08/2014 - 19:17
          +3

          @Cole: I don't think that last part is true (and tbh, I'm too lazy to check the Centrelink website lol).

          While studying myself, I was living at home with my mother. She has a reasonably well paid job, significant savings and she owns the house. I still managed to qualify for Newstart (or was it youth allowance? ugh it was a while ago so my memory is hazy haha). But yeah, basically I was independent and was given no money by my mother or anything. I paid for the bills but don't think I declared that to Centrelink as it seemed pointless for them to know.

          Even once I started part time work while still at uni, Centrelink still supplemented that income. Helped a LOT. Probably would've died without it as uni expenses were not cheap at all.

        • BangkokDessert on 07/08/2014 - 20:01
          +1

          Good point, I couldn't be bothered to look it up either, but I have been there and done that!

          at the moment youth allowance - student will get you $272.80 a fortnight for the base rate plus a clean energy supplement of $4.60

          to be clearer I looked it up and if you are under 22 but your parents have less than $642000 of assets (not including the family home!) then you can get some free money!

          unless your parents earn over $48837! in which case you loose 20 cents from your payment for every dollar they earn over that..

          There are other ways to class yourself as independent though as opposed to dependant, for instance working an average of 30 hours a week for 18 months!

        • pyro love bird on 08/08/2014 - 01:28
          +1

          @Cole: Hi, I actually tried to apply for it a little while back and they rejected at me and weren't really nice, they didn't even really look at my application. They said:

          A. "You're still living with your parents"

          B. "They both work full time and own their house"

          I'm actually 22 next year and I can get austudy then. Hopefully.

          I've looked into uni for financial help too but all the ones I've looked at have been for rural students, students living away from their parents, etc. So I don't really qualify and it's such a pain.

          Does it even count as work if I don't get paid?

        • Charlatan on 09/08/2014 - 14:58

          @pyro love bird: Did you try to make your YA claim online?

        • pyro love bird on 09/08/2014 - 16:01

          @Charlatan: No, in person

      • oringal on 07/08/2014 - 19:32
        +3

        you can also claim youth allowance, depends on your parent's income threshold. But other than that, tbh there are no easy ways to make money, only hard ways which require time. Casual work around uni is probably the best you're going to get, you could always sign up to be a course tutor or assistant for labs.

        • pyro love bird on 08/08/2014 - 01:30

          I don't get high enough marks to unfortunately, but I did recently get a HD in a unit which I applied to be a group tutor for, no response yet though.

    • carwashhair on 08/08/2014 - 12:07
      +1

      Yes, clinical money is all good but what do you feed your second head?

      • donga100 on 08/08/2014 - 20:16
        +3

        As stated, they provide free meals at the clinic.

        • RefusdClassification on 08/08/2014 - 21:28
          +1

          He means mutation. Most drugs used to treat carcinomas actually damage and mutate DNA. Avoid those trials.

        • jacklynhydejr on 10/08/2014 - 08:45
          +3

          @Thaal Sinestro: I'm pretty sure those particular trials do not take place using healthy subjects. Usually they would target patients with the particular disease.

  • chloden on 07/08/2014 - 15:15
    -7

    Obtain things "illegally" and then sell for profit
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/155765

  • lisss on 07/08/2014 - 15:52
    +1

    The problem is you need time - after studying FT and working 45-50 hours per week I don't imagine you'd have any left for any moneymaking endeavours :(

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