Restaurant refusing to honour two 2-people vouchers for 3 guests - Bar Santo (via Cudo)

Long story short:

Restaurant (Bar Santo, St Kilda VIC) refused to honour two vouchers (each being a two-person voucher) for three guests in one booking at one table.

Long story long:

Earlier last month, I made a booking at Bar Santo after purchasing some vouchers from Cudo. Each voucher said that it was for two people, however I purchased two vouchers with the assumption that two vouchers covering three guests (valid up to four people) would be more preferable than buying a one 2-people voucher to cover for three guests. I've done this many times before at other venues, so I didn't for a minute anticipate what was to come…

Then, upon receiving the vouchers (this was in March) I called the restaurant to make a booking for three people in mid-April. I explicitly mentioned that I would be using two vouchers for this booking and was informed that this would be fine.

In fact, I was tossing up between a number of days in April's third week so I called them numerious times about the one booking, settling on a definite day. This final date was confirmed a day after I made my first call to Bar Santo.

Every week after that I made a call to check that the reservation was indeed there, because it was an important event which I made the reservation for. During all calls I made, I maintained that there would be three people and that two vouchers would be used. I was still told that this would be okay.

Now, the day of the booking - it was a dinner booking, and the three of us (I was one of the three guests) turned up at the restaurant and thankfully, the booking was there. We assumed our tables, were given menus and told of the offer details and what we could and could not order. At this stage the waitress also asked for the vouchers which I handed over before ordering.

A little while later, the same waitress came to our table to take our orders. We ordered what we were allowed within the limitations of the offer.

About 20 minutes passed since we placed our order, and the waitress came back with the two vouchers, saying that we could not use two vouchers as we were three people - not four. She couldn't offer any more information so we asked to speak to the venue manager.

The venue manager also stuck to this viewpoint. It was her contention that as we were three people we could not use a voucher which covered up to four people. We told the manager that in that case we can use half of the second voucher but you can keep both as being redeemed, but she did not want to accept this either. In the meantime, the waitress came to the table and said that the entree was ready but the manager told her to wait.

The manager insisted that we definitely could not use vouchers covering four people, for a table of three. She was not even willing to negotitate. Then, she mentions that one of her staff processed both vouchers as having been redeemed, but that she would authorise on one of the vouchers by hand that it was effectively not redeemed and would be okay for later use.

It was the suggestion of the manager that we cancel the items ordered and only place an order for two people. To me this was not the right thing to do as the three of us were there and it would not be acceptable to order two meals and not a third. Then, the manager suggested that we cancel the entree and order three mains. At the end of the meal, she would add up the night's total, subtract the value of a single voucher and the rest would be payable as normal. She also added in that we would not have to pay for the entree, as it had not left the kitchen yet and that she would have it for dinner instead.

Reluctantly, this is what we did - we cancelled all items ordered except for the three main courses, and at the end of the night she gave back the second redeemed voucher with a note saying it was still okay for future use, we paid for the difference between the night's total and the first voucher, all the while watching her down the entrees which we had initially ordered.

So my question after all this… was this right?

TIA
KaptnKaos

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  • +4

    They're retarded what the hell..

    The only explanation that I could think of behind why they would do such a thing would be because they create these deals as a way of getting as many people as possible to experience their business, like they were wanting 4 people to experience it, increasing the possibility for potential revenue in the future.

    BUT IN SAYING THIS, the fact that they refused to honour the voucher has lost them revenue and would defeat my theory.

    I have no idea what they were thinking but they could have reacted worse to the situation and not offered to cancel the entree and not honouring either voucher.

  • +8

    Never buy group buy vouchers for restaurants. Not worth the hassle. They are wrong, trash them to anyone that will listen.

    • +1

      Couldn't agree more, dining out, especially if it's for catching up/gathering, it's all about the experience and the dynamics, if you have to go through all the stress and headache from buying the vouchers to booking to turn up and having to follow their rules and negotiating, might as well just pay the 10-20 bucks extra per person to have a really good time elsewhere.

  • +7

    In my view only desparate restaurants participate in group buy schemes. Not worth your business.

  • +6

    These group vouchers were originally marketed as being a way for restaurants to get people in, provide a great experience and then you'd come back and pay full price. These days, while some operators still do that, it seems most just see it as a last ditch attempt at generating some revenue as they head towards bankruptcy. Seen it plenty of times with restaurants running group deals in Sydney.

    That said, I do purchase dining group deals from time to time but take a few steps to ensure as best as I can that I'll get the experience I expect.

    1) Check the reviews for the place and see if anyone has complained about previous group deals. I've avoided quite a few deals after seeing how poorly previous group voucher holders had been treated.
    2) Follow the terms and conditions to the letter. OP, what you did having 3 instead of 4 sounds reasonable to me, but I would avoid it if possible. Many of these operators will try to catch you out if they can.
    3) Choose the 'big' restaurants, ie. the ones that are part of a chain, part of a hotel, well-known in the area etc etc. More likely that they will do the right thing.
    4) Trickiest one is to make sure the phone number they give you to book is the regular phone number you will find on their website. Have had occasions where they give you a different extension, that way when you call they can see on their system it is a group voucher person calling and they'll pretend they're booked out on a Saturday night etc etc. Happened to me with Georges Mediterannean in Sydney, we beat their system by calling the regular number after being denied on the group deal number and only telling them we had a voucher AFTER they confirmed they had space for us!

    As for your case OP, I'd suggest you email Cudo and tell them, perhaps even lodge a Paypal dispute if that's possible. And post some reviews on dining sites etc so future diners know.

    • we beat their system by calling the regular number after being denied on the group deal number and only telling them we had a voucher AFTER they confirmed they had space for us!

      Do you really want to do that with a restaurant though? They're preparing your food…

      • Haha true, but we didn't tell them we were knowingly beating the system and all worked out ok food-wise :)

    • Usually it's not that they are fully booked it's that they limit how many tables are filled with coupon users on a given night.This due to the fact that they make so little money from the coupons that they need full price diners to make up for it.

      They have to hope you'll order some drinks to actually make a profit from your table in most cases.

      • Yep they often do that and it's entirely fair, so long as they say limited availability on that night in the terms and conditions, which this deal for Georges didn't. Plus, the night we went, in the rather large restaurant, I'd say only about 10% of the tables were occupied!

  • +4

    Contact cudo and get a refund for both vouchers. Cudo has a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Explained what happened. I did it a few times when I had terrible experience at restaurants; never had an issue getting refund.

  • +1

    Before i buy such vouchers, I now phone and make an enquiry to check they don't have special rules for offers.
    I had experience with place on Gold Coast, few weeks before holiday tried booking in for 1 of 5 nights was there, but they asked if had voucher, then apparently fully booked. Surprise surprise, next day phoned up and got a booking after saying No I don't have voucher and just presented it on arrival.

    • The same with restaurants, saloons and Massage parlours. If it say you have to book…i decided never to buy those group deals.

  • +4

    should just book for four people, order 4 meals and say the forth person is running late (which never shows up obviously because they don't exist) and have an extra plate to share.

  • I'd like to know what the voucher provided - did it provide a buy one get one free? Did it provide a 2 person platter for only $10? Etc

    This way we can judge reasons for and against properly.

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