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  ThisJustin on 07/03/2014 - 10:28

  +1

  Hidden from the naked eye and to those who can dig a little!

  Are you sure you didn't find it on reddit.com/r/gamingdeals :p

  $1.00 deal isn't bad; can't see a reason to part with $10.00 for that content, though.

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    [Deactivated] on 07/03/2014 - 11:51

    I don't use reddit aha.

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  Mik on 07/03/2014 - 10:43

  Does mark ecko work for Aussies? It is a notoriously RC game, regardless of the new R18+. Can anyone confirm?

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    ThisJustin on 07/03/2014 - 10:52

    If it hasn't been resubmitted for classification, which I highly doubt it would have been, I imagine it would still be RC, thus "illegal".

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      SuperMatty on 07/03/2014 - 11:09

      @ThisJustin My understanding of the classification system is that it's a little more nuanced than that. I think that when a game is refused classification, the prohibited part is the selling-in-Australia, not necessarily the actual owning-or-playing-in-Australia. If you manage to acquire the game yourself, I don't believe you are implicitly breaking the law by playing it in Australia, unless there are other restrictions placed on it besides the classification refusal. PLEASE NOTE I'M NOT A LAWYER AND THIS IS JUST MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS MESSED-UP SITUATION.

      Side note: even if a game is not available to buy through Steam itself due to region restrictions, if you can buy a steam key from a reseller (such as Humble Bundle in this case), you can still activate it in Steam regardless of your location. At least that's been my (and a lot of other people's) experience. In this way, you can get games into your Steam library that normally you would not be able to buy (or could only buy the 'sanitized' version) from within Australia.

      With this particular game, it seems Valve is selling it to Australians on Steam anyway - it certainly let me add it to my cart. Given the nature of the original (and quite ridiculous) refusal-of-classification, I can't see how this could be some "sanitized" version for Australia - there would be no game left to play. Can only assume it's the full version.

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        SuperMatty on 07/03/2014 - 11:32

        Further to this issue - there's a heap of details about the Australian classification of this specific game here

        One notable part in a media release from the Classification Review Board (in 2006):

        A computer game that is refused classification (RC) is immediately banned throughout Australia. It cannot be demonstrated, sold, hired or imported into the country. A computer game is refused classification if it exceeds the guidelines for the MA 15+ classification.

        So it doesn't mention that playing is illegal, but the 'importing' part is interesting.

        Also in a later quote, the ACMA notes that some of the rules are effectively un-enforceable:

        A spokeswoman for ACMA was preparing a statement in response to the issue, but guidelines published on its website suggest there is little it can do to prevent online stores hosted overseas from selling banned games to Australians.

        Keep in mind that this is all from 2006-07 and some stuff may have happened since then - I'm tangentially interested in this topic (can you guess?) but don't know what the legal state of affairs is these days.

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        SirFlibbled on 07/03/2014 - 12:07

        It's much more complicated than that.

        I haven't researched this area for a number of years (so things may have changed) but in WA it is an offence to possess an RC game.

        In some states the offence of selling the game only applies to a public place which the internet is not (public place refers to physical locations like shops and parks).

        As Valve is located in the US, the laws still apply but can't really be enforced by the States and Territories so maybe they don't care.

        Additionally importation (including over the internet), it's illegal if a game is RC or potentially RC or should not be seen by a minor (what I've always found interesting is technically this would make MA15+ games illegal to import).

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      Mik on 07/03/2014 - 12:35

      The reason I ask is, other RC games in the past (Rockstar, I'm looking at you…) have been blocked by steam to Aussie accounts. I simply wanted to know if this game activates on an Aussie account.

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        ThisJustin on 07/03/2014 - 14:27

        I guess you have to ask yourself if it is worth parting with the 10 dollars to find out.

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        SirFlibbled on 07/03/2014 - 15:20

        In theory it should be as Steam usually blocks RCed games to Australians. If it doesn't, once they realise it (and with the bundle that's quite possible) they probably will.