Opinion - real estate agent has not acted on our behalf

Just wondering what would you do we have a property and the tenant has just recently moved out at our request.

We self managed this tenant for around 5 years, but they were getting less forthcoming with the rent, so gave the property over to an agent to manage, early 2013.

Now the agent has been less than efficient and in hindsight, we possibly should have found another. The tenant left damage that according to the agent was not claimable, and arrears in their water bill. I inspected the property the day after the tenant left and was of course not happy with some of what I found. I approached the agent, saying this should be fixed and this should be done, and one thing that I thought was reasonable was that they remove the gravel from where they had put their pool for a couple of years, the 5cm of fine gravel is still there in a rather large circle where there should have been grass. As well the tenant decided to remove the shower screens from the en-suite and the main bathroom, as they had managed to do quite an amount of un-claimable water damage, and they said we need to fix the bathroom anyway, so they left the screens outside for our benefit. I questioned why the agent had agreed to this, and said I wanted them to be put back, nothing happened so in frustration my partner did this only to find of course they no longer fitted as they had been broken.

I approached our agent again to say that now they would need to pay for either a new screen or to repair if possible the existing screen the agent, sort of did not bother to answer this, and told me as she had not been the original agent 6 years ago who put the tenant in the property, then she could not claim any damage, with out a 6 year old report of course which we do not have.

Here is my question and I am hoping that someone help me see my options. The tenant owes us substantial amount of water and has chosen not to pay, we are going to try and claim this from the bond, but as my agent seems to not know the law, the tenant has now claimed their complete bond back and we are now having to take them to court fight to get any of the $450 of water. I am thinking if I (my real estate agent) have to go to court anyway, should I try and claim the repairs such as covering the gravel with soil and the shower screens, or should I just walk away and think lesson learnt, as I do not feel the agent is really going to act on my behalf, as when the tenant claimed their bond without my knowing, I sort of lost it and accused my agent of not looking after our best interests or she would have claimed before they did, then I feel we may have had the upper hand. I only now two days later got a reply, saying that she had never had a tenant claim their bond so that I suggested she was not on top of things was not reasonable.

So any ozbargainers who have experience with tenant issues or landlord issues that can give advice I would appreciate hearing from you.

Comments

  • +3

    I think you should take him/her to court. Give him a lesson, not just walk away.

    I wouldn't expect that you will get the money for the damage. But it's clearly that they have to pay the water bill.
    For 6 years, have you spend any money to fix up something in that house? You can't expect everything would be in the perfect condition but a bit older.
    You should claim for it anyway then the judge and your tenant will negotiate/argue about that, and try to be reasonable about the money that you ask for.

    Did you have all photos before your tenant moved in? This is very important.

    Your agent is quite right about that they didn't start the lease. I don't know what they can do bu they took your money so they suppose to do something, right?

  • Without an entry condition report you have no leg to stand on in regards to the shower screens and the gravel etc. You will not succeed in the tribunal as the correct process of documentation has not been followed.

    The water bill will be ruled in your favour, as long as the lease stipulates the tenant is liable for water consumption charges.

  • You should definitely pursue the water bill, as $450 is no small amount and it will be awarded to you.

    For the damages, I would say that the gravel is not really a big deal, as you can probably just shovel it out yourself and plant new grass over it. It's not really permanent damage and you probably won't get much anyway, but if you're already pursuing them for other matters, then why not. The shower screens, however, you can probably take them to court about too if you can prove that the shower screens were undamaged before they moved in…etc.

  • The best thing i ever did was taking my properties away from real estate agents and managing them myself. Yes it is a bit of extra work, but all that agents do is add an extra layer of bureaucracy. Not to mention that every few months they seem to turnover staff and it seems to be the most junior and/or incompetent ones that get put into property management.

    Many of the issues I have had with tenants have been made worse by the agents delaying, not passing on messages etc etc. The key to issues (including unpaid rent) is getting onto them quickly, which agents just don't do in many cases in my experience, by which time you are out of pocket

    Regarding getting back small amounts of money, IMO it is not worth the effort. I have been through the VCAT process before and it wastes a lot of your time, not to mention that the tenant can drag it out by being difficult

  • +1

    Agree 100% with slow.
    My property was managed and before the tenant moved in I had brand new carpets.
    The tosser left an iron burn mark and the manager said she'll take $40 out, I said, No you will
    get it replaced then bill the idiot. She said legally we can only charge for the amount of damaged carpet as a
    percentage. I told her, I pay her so, get the money out of the tenant.

    Each agent has about 80-100 properties on their books. I would get billed 1 and a 1/2 hours for an inspection report, and the tenant told me they were there for 10 minutes. The agency was 500m from my property.

    Before and After photos will provide evidence.

    6 years with the same tenant, I'd be happy with that, Chase up the water but forget the rest.

  • If your agent hasn't done anything so far I wouldn't waste further money paying for them to represent you at the tribunal. I have been once after dealings with a nightmare tenant and it was a real eye opener as to how unprepared the agents were. I was well prepared and got awarded everything I went for (but then trying to get the payment via the sheriff was like getting blood from a stone). There was an agent before and after my ruling who turned up without the correct paperwork and got awarded nothing. I'm sure she would have charged the landlord for attending.
    We manage our properties ourselves and would never use an agent again for either property management or sales.

  • yes, I would be happy with the water, unfortunately I have upset the property manager with comments made in anger, regarding her lack of knowledge and she is not likely to represent me with any efficiency and as you have stated, that will mean I loose the claim. As I have had a 6 year not always so positive relationship with these tenants, I am not keen to represent myself, but wonder if there is anyone else that I can employ to act on my behalf.

  • I wonder is there any other options other than the real estate or fronting up myself? any suggestions?

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