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Sony PlayStation 3 (500GB) Plus 4 Games. $398 at Dick Smith (in-Store)
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Yeah im waiting for a similar deal on PS3
This is a poor deal. You could get the next gen PS4 from Dicksmith for $100 more with their 10% off sale a few days ago.
True and I still regret getting a gift card not really going to use, got things when they are cheap, OzBargain spirit lol
Can't play gta v and gt6 on the ps4, can you? Apples and oranges…
it's still cheap for a PS3. It would be a good deal for people without a PS3 yet
Not a good deal at all i've seen brand new 12GB PS3's going for $180-200. Even right now it's $198 or $200 delivered at TGG. Add a $60 500gb 2.5" HDD to it and you've got yourself a 500GB PS3 for around $260.
http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/buyonline/Playstation_3_12GB_C…
but you also get the 4 games for $138. Assuming that GTA, GT6 and Fifa are $60 each that's still a pretty good deal
games don't hold their value and if you do like to play the latest games you would not be buying a PS3 now
Add a $60 500gb 2.5" HDD to it and you've got yourself a 500GB PS3 for around $260.
Now add those games to it to complete your comparison.
What if people don't even want those games. What if they want to buy their own games of choosing. You can get some great not so old games for great prices like i saw Tomb Raider PS3 game going for $25 at Target recently.
What if people don't even want those games.
Then they buy the bare console (keep in mind this is the 500GB version).
This is a poor deal. You could get the next gen PS4 from Dicksmith for $100 more with their 10% off sale a few days ago.
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Harsh bro.Long answer
I really don't understand your logic.
The PS4 is not a direct (backward compatible) replacement for the PS3. In other words, it doesn't offer all the PS3 has and then some.We have a machine here with years of games behind it and a high proportion of best-selling games selling for less than $20. The PS4 (in contrast) is a new system with all the growing pains of a new system (lack of wide range of games, lack of cheap games, expensive accessories, etc.).
This is a PS3. A PS4 isn't a direct replacement for the PS3. Keep the hate inside.
I got agree with this. While they do have their differences, I paid $79 for an xbox 360, $40 for 4 AAA titles, $ 37 for live gold. All I need is a hard-drive for $~50. Even if somethings on the ps3 are more desirable you can't justify 200 total cost vs 400 total cost. The games are not worth the price in a bundle, you can almost get them cheaper in seperate sales/ pre-owned, plus you have the choice of games suited towards your needs.
Davo93,
Forgive me for thinking that comparing a competitor's system bought for some bargain price nobody can obtain now is a stupid reason to neg this deal. They aren't the same things.Of course if you can see what's offer here being offered somewhere else for less, than I'm all too happy to bring light to this fact.
Well the xbox 360 deal was on till yesterday so I think it is relevant to this discussion. No sane OzBargainer would buy this considering you could buy a console with similar specifications 1 day earlier for half the effective total cost.
what if you wanted a PS3 over an xbox? I know i did, so i went for the PS3 a few months ago even though it did cost more than xbox. I prefer the PS3 exclusives and all my friends are on PS3
In summary:
* it's OK to neg a deal based on a past deal offering a completely different product and then offer my advice about what is more 'worth it', even though I can no longer buy the product I speak of at the price I stated.Just speaking for myself…I have never negged a deal on this basis and hope I never do. Again, I'm all too happy for you to point out where you found this bundle cheaper though.
re:my first post. While they do have their differences the cost difference is not justified. I will remove the neg but I just think the price is a bit out of this world considering the Xbox promotion. For example buying a BRZ vs Toyota 86, with a brz being double the price its just doesn't make sense, however if the brz is 10-20% the additional cost can be justified given circumstances.
i agree that the PS3 does cost a lot more than the xbox but i don't think the neg is justified because they are different products.
you can get PS4 for $400 from JB gift card offer
$400=$520 its like 30% offYeah so long as you got the JB gift card for free.
What JB gift card offer?
I want to get a PS4 so I really want to know about this.
I re-checked my address bar, thinking that I must have hit GrumpyBargain accidentally, but nope…it still says OzBargain.
I rechecked my address bar, thinking that I must ve hit PS3fanboyps3atanycostisabargain accidently but nope it still says Ozbargain
I'm not finding a Sony Playstation 3 (500GB) plus 4 (decent) games at a better price. Please show me otherwise.
A voice of sanity. Thanks bro.
Not a deal.
Please post where you found the cheaper price.
Doesn't matter if it's good price or not if there's non in store ;)
There's a few stores in VIC and QLD that have it available for click and collect. The Brisbane Queen Street store and Northland Vic store has it. Over here in Central QLD the Gladstone, Emerald and Kingaroy stores have it. But yes there's not many stores that have it stocked.
So any one in Brisbane you best get over to the Queen Street store if you want this console bundle.
Not negging, but i dont think its a GREAT idea to buy this. Really have to sugarcoat my opinion because people seem to take things very personally/ over react on this thread.
Similar deals had the last of us/bf4/beyond two souls/fifa etc for the same price, which i think are better than GT6 and Driver IMHO. and for me personally, id say this is a lot to pay for last gen.
Not to say i dont thank the OP for posting, but as a gamer i wouldnt buy it
Driver San Francisco PS3 is only worth $20 at Target and $19 at EB Games any how. So that game at least is not worth much. Gran Turismo 6 PS3 is $59 at JB. But this console bundle deal is only good if you actually want those 4 games.
It's not such a great deal though for a console that's been superseded. About 2 years ago i remember buying a PS3 console with bonus game and v1.4 HDMI cable for $250.
Grand Theft Auto V and Gran Turismo 6.
Those 2 alone add up to heaps, without adding the other 2.While we have lots of opinions here on what people would rather have, nobody has found the 500GB console and these games cheaper individually (or in this same bundle).
Im glad you found what YOU want. Hurray. Im glad you posted a deal, because good/bad/average deals are better than no deals - it is up to the reader to determine what value the deal is to them.
But please, grow up. Im not going to run wild and search all 500gb ps3 deals to prove you right or wrong. Youre not 5 years old. You dont need other people's affirmation to build your self esteem.
People post comments for OTHER people, who are sitting on the fence, to determine if they want to take the plunge and buy it or not. This is irrelevant to you since clearly think the deal is already worthwhile to YOU. If i bought one, I'd probably throw in a simple "thanks OP" too.
Chill out and stop challenging people to find better bargains ffs
Chill out and stop challenging people to find better bargains ffs
My responses were geared towards those negging for their own personal reasons and tastes, not general comments saying 'thanks but it's not for me' which I'm all for and personally have zero issues with.
In my world, a neg is resreved for when you can get a much better deal elsewhere, not silly personal tastes reasons. There were 3 negs within what seemed like 15 mnutes of posting this, all for stupid reasons, in my opinion.
Not negging, but i dont think its a GREAT idea to buy this. Really have to sugarcoat my opinion because people seem to take things very personally/ over react on this thread.
You don't have to sugar-coat anything. Just use simple common sense.
As a poster deciding to post a bargain, it's annoying to encounter those who don't know what this bundle offers or don't know what it's worth or those making dissimilar comparisons or (worst of all) those who simply are not interested in the bundle and decide to neg for their own personal reasons rather than price reasons. They do this despite them not being able to find a competitor that beats the bundle & despite not being able to buy this individually for less.
It's that simple.
Forgive me if I think it discourages bargain posts when dealing with people spilling their hate-o-rade all over someone deciding to post a bargain. (and that's exactly what this is). Most who neggged have had theirs revoked, so maybe the message is getting through.
Still so expensive for a last gen console.
Keep in mind up until recently (I'm not 100% sure that it's finished) Sony were still supporting ps2 games for FIFA and music games and EB have not that long ago started to refuse ps2 trades, so don't see Sony or any retailers having a fire sale as there is still plenty of life in the ps3
Yes that's true you'll still be able to buy PS3 games for years yet.
Plenty of life in ps3 doesn't mean you can sell them for $400.
They can sell the 12GB for $200 like an Xbox 360 is, and still have plenty of life. Someone can buy their own 500GB HDD and put it in from there.
I don't think MS is clearing out stock either. They intend for the 360 to be kept around a few more years.
Yeah that's what i suggested earlier. PS3 12GB console from TGG for $198 + buy your own 500GB HDD for about $60 and put it in makes a 500GB PS3 console for around $260. That's for those that only need the console itself.
Plenty of life in ps3 doesn't mean you can sell them for $400.
In quite confidant I could sell these games and still come relatively equal to anyone buying a 12gb console with the caddy and hdd on its own, each to their own though
Consider this, for $415 USD you can buy a PS4 500GB shipped from Amazon. Which is exactly what I did. It's not that much more…
And the PS4 doesn't have that cheap budget feel that this super slim has.
Can you post a link? I checked Amazon and the cheapest I can see id $519 without delivery.
Dunno.. RRP is $399 for the console which is what I paid for it not long ago. Unless Amazon is scalping on them.
If so, it shouldn't be long before they're back in stock at RRP.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1…
It's $399 direct from Amazon but won't be in stock until Jan 10.
Okay, thanks, I'll keep an eye on it.
Keep in mind this is a future investment. There is not much to play on PS4 at the moment, so no hurry in buying one.
The PS3 is a worthy purchase if you've never owned one. Just not at this price.
This is almost a PS4 price, and the reason we bring that up is to highlight value for money in terms of hardware. It's not in the same league.
But if you actually want to play it right now, PS3 has more games worth playing.
The PS3 is a worthy purchase if you've never owned one. Just not at this price.
The price is great if you actually value the games. Not all do, evidently. Even if you don't, I fail to see how you can call the price bad since there are at least 2 hot titles bundled here, and they are not cheap.
I still find the comparisons with the bare PS4 so funny. The PS3 allows you to chase up so many brand new top-selling "essentials" games for less than $20, providing years of top-shelf entertainment for not too much money, while the Next Big Thing is struggling to get itself in the door with games, and the games you see are all expensive (no best-sellers that have been discounted).
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I could literally buy 4x the games on the PS3 for the same money as I can on the PS4 now. Those would be top-shelf and top-selling games that just happen to not be the newest thing but provide top entertainment to anyone that plays them. It really puts any analysis of PS4 'hardware value' in perspective. To do the same thing would cost a fortune on any new system.Even if you don't, I fail to see how you can call the price bad since there are at least 2 hot titles bundled here, and they are not cheap.
Some people have access to games much cheaper than you do. Also paying for 4 games when only 2 of them are hot is not the smartest thing one could do.
Unless all 4 of the included games happen to be games you want, and not a single one of them are games you don't want, sure. They cover quite a diverse genre though, and I don't think too many will be big fans of all of these types of games.
But if you're buying PS3 now, there's a huge back catalogue of games to play which will be much cheaper than these, and if you bought those instead and played those first then by the time you get to GTA (IMO the only worthy game on this list) it will have been discounted.
I still find the comparisons with the bare PS4 so funny. The PS3 allows you to chase up so many brand new top-selling "essentials" games for less than $20
Even less reason to go for a bundle that includes 4 new full priced games.
providing years of top-shelf entertainment for not too much money
Exactly, so you go for a $200 PS3, and you buy the $20 games, instead of paying another $200 for four newly priced games you may not even want. You got an arcade racer, a racing sim, a sports game, and an open world crime game. What are the chances a new PS3 owner is going to be into all 4 types of games?
It really puts any analysis of PS4 'hardware value' in perspective.
Hardware value means precisely that. If you want to compare a cell processor and RSX's against the PS4's, ok.
I mentioned nothing about software value.
I could literally buy 4x the games on the PS3 for the same money as I can on the PS4 now.
Of course. And you could buy 16x as many PS2 games as you can on the PS3. Buying a PS4 now is a future investment, just as buying a PS3 in 2007 was.
If you don't actually care for anything less than all 4 of the bundled games, I think $400 is bad value for a PS3. Even if you did, I'll bet you could buy them separately for cheaper all up than $400, if you look around for deals.
If it makes you happy, I would rather buy the PS3 for $250 ($200 for basic model and $50 for HDD), then spend the remaining $150 buying a bunch more $20 games than getting this bundle.
Once the good PS4 games release like Destiny, they won't be playable on your $400 PS3, and then you have to make an argument over whether you want to spend another $400 and have two consoles, or just go without.
Some people have access to games much cheaper than you do.
Who might these people be, you reckon?
I have no idea who you are referring to. People working in games stores? People working for games companies? If so, even then they are getting the PS3 stuff cheaper than retail, right? So the differences in price between PS3 and PS4 games should be just as apparent.
Also paying for 4 games when only 2 of them are hot is not the smartest thing one could do.
Would it be a stretch to suggest that everyone is not like you?
Would it be a stretch to suggest that some out there like all 4 games? ie. they disagree with your perceptions of value (which are far from universal truths)? Would it be a stretch to suggest that (as I said earlier), it's down to how much you value the games. Can we get over this point? You are projecting your personal dislikes over the bundle, just like everyone else who has said anything negative here. But can you really argue the bundle is bad value? Seriously. I don't think you can. Would it be unbelievable for you to consider the fact that there are people that like this bundle and all the games in it? Because there are. I'm one of them. I have a PS3 already though.
Again, OF COURSE it's down to your personal tastes. What YOU would rather do with the money (pay more for a PS4 with no games) isn't necessarily the IDEAL thing in my eyes either, but knock yourself out if it makes you happy, and knock yourself out if you can neatly separate software and hardware costs so elegantly. To me they are a package: you can't have entertainment without good games. These devices are designed to play games, primarily.
Of course. And you could buy 16x as many PS2 games as you can on the PS3. Buying a PS4 now is a future investment, just as buying a PS3 in 2007 was.
Actually you can't buy 16x as many PS2 games as PS3. Not new anyway.
My earlier example was new-for-new and a long history of best-selling games going for discounts ("Essentials" games) versus none on the PS4. PS2 has very little support now. It's hard to find new games. PS3 still has too many new games available. PS2 was also built for the standard definition era. It's going back quite a bit, unlike the PS3-PS4 comparison, in my opinion. No need to exaggerate. With a PS3 you can easily get 4x more top-selling "Essemtials" games in your bag. It isn't ancient and the games are readily available from countless companies in countless genres you may be interested in.
Exactly, so you go for a $200 PS3, and you buy the $20 games, instead of paying another $200 for four newly priced games you may not even want.
Everyone hates the bundle like you, right? It's not 200 extra for games. Go check your maths. It's closer to 100 than 200. About $130 or so over buying a bare console with 500GB hard drive (with possibly some DIY- hard drive action on your part). Again you automatically assume everyone thinks like you. As if there is nobody out there that would want to buy all these games and that thinks its good value. AND there is always the option of selling one or more of the sealed games, too. You ignore this possiblility too.
I mentioned nothing about software value.
Which is precisely what I think you should be mentioning.
Comparing a bare console (that you have to pay more for) to a PS3 console with games, and then making value judgements about hardware is the essense of ludicrousness, to me. Hardware needs software. Software costs money. Games cost money.
You may not like the bundle (fair enough), but others might not agree. You can't argue its cheaper buying them separately. I don't think anyone here can.
Who might these people be, you reckon?
Anyone who looks for cheap prices online, instead of accepting the price of bundles.
Would it be a stretch to suggest that everyone is not like you?
Irrelevant. To him there were 2 hot games. If for him only 2 of them were hot, I'd say it's pointless to pay for 4 of them.
Would it be a stretch to suggest that some out there like all 4 games? ie. they disagree with your perceptions of value (which are far from universal truths)?
Of course, but I doubt they'd be anything more than a minority.
Would it be a stretch to suggest that (as I said earlier), it's down to how much you value the games. Can we get over this point?
Of course, and the point is not everyone WILL want all 4 games.
You are projecting your personal dislikes over the bundle, just like everyone else who has said anything negative here. But can you really argue the bundle is bad value?
It's bad value as long as you don't want all of those games. If you do a cost breakdown, you can buy a 12GB cheaper somewhere else, your own 500GB HDD, and whatever games you want (you have choice, instead of those 4), and if you wanted those 4, you could find them cheaper and add the thing up to less than $400. I'm not going to research it for you though.
Seriously. I don't think you can.
I did.
Would it be unbelievable for you to consider the fact that there are people that like this bundle and all the games in it? Because there are. I'm one of them. I have a PS3 already though.
And those people are entitled to it. I'm saying for those who aren't one of these people, they shouldn't. Not saying that nobody should. If you're one of those people who like soccer games, and open world shooters, and arcade racers, and racing sims, go for it. There are probably thousands of you out there. I would wager there are a lot more who don't like all 4 types of games though.
Again, OF COURSE it's down to your personal tastes. What YOU would rather do with the money (pay more for a PS4 with no games) isn't necessarily the IDEAL thing in my eyes either
I can accept that saving money by doing a bit of legwork (and buying in pieces) isn't for everyone. If the 4 games you want most coincidentally happen to be these four, then more power to you. If you're after a different four or less and you're willing to look around, you can save money and get a 'package' more to your tastes.
To me they are a package: you can't have entertainment without good games. These devices are designed to play games, primarily.
Or maybe you buy the console without the 4 games, and you take advantage of a lot of cheap or free titles on PSN?
Actually you can't buy 16x as many PS2 games as PS3. Not new anyway.
That was a slight exaggeration to illustrate a point. I don't value PS2 games as much as I value PS3 games. And I don't value PS3 games as much as I value PS4 games, once they are there. Right now, there is nothing to play on PS4. So saying you can get 4x or 2x or 16x as many PS3 games as PS4 games is not an apples to apples comparison.
With a PS3 you can easily get 4x more top-selling "Essemtials" games in your bag.
How much are these 'essentials' costing you? I see them for $29ish in stores. Not sure how you get 4 of those for the price of a PS4 game. Or are you buying PS4 games for $120? I haven't seen that price on games in a long time.
Everyone hates the bundle like you, right?
Everyone loves the bundle like you, right?
In case I haven't made it clear yet, I don't speak for absolutely everyone. I have to assume people are smart enough to figure this without me spelling it out explicitly. If you don't love the bundle, it's not a good deal. If you were allowed to choose any 4 games it might be a different story.
Again you automatically assume everyone thinks like you. As if there is nobody out there that would want to buy all these games and that thinks its good value.
I've already addressed this. Not going there again.
The fact that I didn't downvote this should say enough about my position on it. Do I think it's a bad deal? Yes. Do I think nobody else could possibly find it a good deal? If that were the case I would have negged it.
AND there is always the option of selling one or more of the sealed games, too. You ignore this possiblility too.
Or just not buying it to begin with.
Which is precisely what I think you should be mentioning.
Alright. How would you go about comparing them?
Comparing a bare console (that you have to pay more for) to a PS3 console with games, and then making value judgements about hardware is the essense of ludicrousness, to me.
I think it's fair to compare hardware value. Just as it is comparing a Pendo tablet to an iPad. Going by your numbers it's about $100-200 after the games are removed. Do I think the 7-8 year old hardware inside the PS3 justifies only a $100-200 saving? I don't.
Hardware needs software. Software costs money. Games cost money.
I didn't say you shouldn't also buy PS4 games. If you're going to keep it for the next 8 years there will be plenty. And you'll eventually buy 4 of them. And they will cost more than this PS3 bundle (which is what you are trying to point out). And?
Basically all you're arguing here is that a PS3 is cheaper than a PS4. Well duh. It damn well should be.
You may not like the bundle (fair enough), but others might not agree. You can't argue its cheaper buying them separately. I don't think anyone here can.
And nowhere did I say that nobody is allowed to buy this if it happens to suit them, or that they must agree with me or else. If you're not saying that I said that, then there is nothing more to be said here. It's no different from me saying not everyone likes the bundle as much as you. You might like it but others might not agree. I didn't assume you are forcing everyone to buy it, so don't assume I'm not allowing anyone to either.
I seem to have made you pretty mad, so I'll leave you to this bargain.
Anyone who looks for cheap prices online, instead of accepting the price of bundles.
I look for prices for these well-rated games online. I can't find them cheaper individually, can you? You seem to be making a suggestion that you can. Is my assumption correct?
Again you're ignoring the possiblity to sell some you don't want, possibly at a profit too. It's a good bundle, in my opinion…even if you don't care for one or two games, SELL THEM.
Irrelevant. To him there were 2 hot games. If for him only 2 of them were hot, I'd say it's pointless to pay for 4 of them.
Who is 'him'? Can you tell me how are you paying for 4 of them when they are discounted versus buying separately? One might consider you are getting one or two of them for free, which you may or may not be inclined to sell if you really don't want it. Money in your pocket. Remember selling? It's possible. Remember ignoring the deal? It's possible too.
Of course, but I doubt they'd be anything more than a minority.
Why are you still projecting your personal dislikes of this bundle here? Wasting your time? There are multiple posts where you make your position clear.
Of course, and the point is not everyone WILL want all 4 games.
And who is disagreeing that that might be the case? Don't want the games? Either buy the bundle and sell the ones you don't like or simply don't go for the bundle. It's still a bargain compared to buying them individually for those that do want these top-rated games.
The fact that I didn't downvote this should say enough about my position on it. Do I think it's a bad deal? Yes.
Bad deal in what sense? Your personal feelings on the bundle or financially? We have heard your personal feelings on the bundle, right? So let's talk financial then, shall we? Have you found them cheaper individually? No? We have heard about your preference for the PS4, multiple times. Anything more to add?
Do I think nobody else could possibly find it a good deal? If that were the case I would have negged it.
Why do you continue to (in multiple posts) push your personal feelings on how you don't like the bundle and what you think is more worth it? Why not move on to the next bargain?
Alright. How would you go about comparing them?
Why do you feel the need to compare them at all? We know what you bought instead, so good luck with the new console. I hope it gives you years of good service and entertainment.
In multiple posts, you've let others know how you feel and what you feel is more worthwhile, and you've offered your guidance on how it's better to buy games people want rather than a bundle they don't (naturally everyone agrees this bundle is crap even though these are all well-rated games going for less money than they go for individually, and even though you can sell one or more of the games if you want, possibly at a nice profit).
I think it's fair to compare hardware value. Just as it is comparing a Pendo tablet to an iPad. Going by your numbers it's about $100-200 after the games are removed. Do I think the 7-8 year old hardware inside the PS3 justifies only a $100-200 saving? I don't.
Fantastic. And you've made your position clear multiple times. Anything else to add? Let me add something: adding the games comes nothing close to $200. We get it though: you don't value the games on offer here and most people are better off getting a bare PS4 for a bit more. With no games. And far less choice of games. And far higher priced games and accessories.
I'm sure this is a suitable choice for some. Anything more to add?
I seem to have made you pretty mad, so I'll leave you to this bargain.
I'm not mad at all, though I often wonder what incentive someone has to make multiple posts basically talking about how this deal is bad for them personally & not worth it, and that they bought a PS4 instead and then suggest that they can buy these bundled games cheaper with no proof.
We get it. You don't like the bundle.
We get it. You see more productive use of your money in the PS4, which is more worth it to you.
We get it. You like the Next Big Thing.
Please, if you guys have time to type like 10000 lines here, why not go find some bargains for yourselves?
When people think $400 is a good price they would go buy it, if they don't think so then they won't buy it…
You think it's cheap doesn't mean other people think so too
it's that easy so stop arguing about it's cheap or not…Please, if you guys have time to type like 10000 lines here, why not go find some bargains for yourselves?
I have posted 46 bargains (and non-bargains too, apparently). Similar to you with 45.
I share whenever I find more.I personally respond to statements like this one:
The PS3 is a worthy purchase if you've never owned one. Just not at this price.He should have added the "in my opinion" qualifier.
'Cause it's clearly not a bad price, as anyone can see if they add the cost of the games.
Nor should someone say they can find games cheaper without proof.Ignoring software bundles and comparing this PS3 to the PS4 (costing more) that comes with no software is a completely odd comparison, in my opinion. Unless of course people are satsified with no games.
This thread is a headache
Will try to find a good deal on aspirin. I normally don't take anything but I'm ready to make an exception..
NO DEAL booyah
Agreed. It is t3h suk.
Agree cheap one will die writing essays defending his "bargains"
ravzter,
I agree with your analysis. I always loved writing essays, especially on topics that interest me, like bargains.If there were some school I could further hone my craft, I'd have continued my studies in this field. As it stands, my studies have been cut short though. I am thinking of starting my own school.
I see that your earlier comments in this thread have added immeasurable value to the readers of this bargain. Please continue your knee-jerk responses and insulting remarks.
There will be plenty of opportunity to continue dogging my bargains in future posts. I encourage doing so, especially when the bargain in question doesn't interest you and you don't know the price of the bundled games. I always encourage making insulting comments at the first opportunity.
If you have read this far, congratulations.
Regards, cheepwun.yawn
ravzter,
I sense your disapproval. It could be that faded minus-one text showing as I write this. Or possibly the "yawn" comment. Or even both.Would my sense that you are in disapproval of my post be accurate?
Can anything be done to remedy the situation?
Regards, cheepwun
Come on Sony. Xbox360 package was much lower than this price with money back offer.