Jetstar poor customer service, Australian low cost carrier = non sensical service?

So we were travelling back last month from Honolulu - Melbourne, via Sydney. Pre-purchased 60 kgs, carried 3 suitcases checked in from Honolulu. We didn't take note exactly how much weight each luggage was, but since everything was fine in Honolulu, we did not feel we had to.

Then we arrrived in Sydney, collected our luggages and cleared custom, with less than an hour to our flight to Melb, we checked in the luggage in the domestic terminal. First and second luggage was weighed using the scale right next to the lady, showing 23 kg each, and the last luggage was weighed using another scale next to it (unused counter), showing 20 kg.

6 kg excess, 15 per kilo, so the lady said she's gonna charge us $90. We refused and then she was very rude and wouldn't want to listen at what we had to say. After few tries to reason but instead we heard some of the most ridiculous answer from a supposedly "customer service" staff, so we just said we'll pay the $90 and we just want to go home. Then she rudely asked us to move the 3rd (20 kg) suitcase from the other scale to her scale to put the bag tag, surprise surprise, it showed 22 kg. We pointed out that her scale is faulty. Consistent with her attitude, she said that the other scale might be the one which is faulty, but then as she was just keep rushing us all the time, so out of her 'courtesy', she just charge 4 kg instead of 6 kg, so $60 and that will be the end of it.

It was one of the busiest time in the airport, around 5 PM on a Friday, only 4 Jetstar counters opened, with one dedicated for those final-call travellers who have not yet checked in. We dismissed the thought of keep pursuing the matter right then and there and further pissed off those poor fellow jetstar customers in the long line behind us, so we paid the $60 and left.

We arrived in Melb, collected the bags, then we went straight upstairs to re-weigh each one. We used 2 different scales showing same weights, showing 19.9 kg, 20 kg, 21 kg. We took photos and sent them along with complaint letter to Jetstar

Received a call back yesterday, the guy confirmed that the weights in the photos are the same with the one recorded from Honolulu. So he asked whether we bought any extra duty free in Sydney, I said no and there was not enough transit time to shop anyway. To cut his mumbling and jumbling, I asked straight to the point whether the reason of his call is to give me a full refund or what, but he kept rambling on, explaining on how he could only work based on the records that they have, which showed 2 x 23 kg in the flight from Sydney to Melb.

So he gave me a 'lowball' offer of $50 jetstar voucher! I said I thought you just confirmed yourself, unless you are now accusing me that I'm lying, I paid $60 for nothing and I thought I am entitled for exactly $60 back in cash. Then right away he 'upgraded' his offer to $100 voucher. The cherry on top of all this was that this voucher expires in 6 months. I felt I'm done with these mob, so I was like yeah sure whatever.

It all but confirms my overall disappointment in general customer service in Australia, especially it all happened as we just landed back from the US. We flew with Virgin America during our trip, supposedly also a low cost carrier, so contrast was the level of professionalism, courtesy, and overall feel on their service.

It seems the airline staffs there are properly trained to understand that the reason they are in the airport and getting paid is to manage and help paying customers, low budget or not, in their travelling. Where as in here… well, that 'lovely' Jetstar lady sums it all up in one of her answer to us: "Look guys, I am here to work, and my work gets audited, and I don't know you. Why should I get in trouble by helping you and not charging you extra luggage fee?".

Sorry for the long rant.

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  • +5

    This is why when flying on low cost carriers (which I do a lot as they provide me more choice and flexibility on seats and baggage etc) I always carry my digital portable scale. For the $10-15 investment they're probably the most useful tool you can have when travelling.

    Measure everything up before you leave for the airport and if there's a problem you can pull it out and use it. I've never needed to though.

    • +1

      Great idea, I didn't know they were so cheap. I just picked one up on eBay for $9.45 with free shipping. 50kg max weight, LCD screen.

      Will be very handy as I'm traveling a lot in the next 12 months.

      Thanks for the tip.

    • The CSR could still say your portable digital scale is faulty. If she said the other unused counter's scale could have been faulty, it is more likely that she would not accept a reading from portable digital scale.

      I would have thought that if you could video record that the baggage weighed 20kg on the other scale and the lady's one was 23kg and the lady says that the other scale must be the one that was faulty, you could have al least uploaded to a social networking site if everything else fails.

      • No but it would give you cause to request another scale be used by them.

  • +4

    I think it's to be expected from budget carriers. That said, corporate culture operates from the top down, and Jetstar's has always been somewhat asshole-ish. If they are going to penny-pinch on excess baggage weights, then they really ought to calibrate their scales.

  • +4

    The issue here is that the scales are not calibrated correctly, and they are misleading customers. Notify the ACCC. As for your complaint, they wore you down and got you to agree to that voucher. Probably could have got your money back. Oh well, it's resolved

    • +3

      Agree, complain to ACCC or your state's fair trading. The lady who was weighing your luggage probably didn't have any reason to believe that the scales were not properly calibrated, and thought you were just another annoying customer arguing over excess baggage charges. If I was in that situation I would insist on trying the scales at another counter.

      • yep.

        ACCC are basically a statistics company. They look at anomolies, then invistage companies that seem to have an abnormally high number of complaints.

        Fair trading will generally contact them on your behalf to try and find a reasonable outcome. If they can't do it, court (NSW = CTTT) is your next option. As you've already accepted a deal, recouping your loss isn't really an option

  • +4

    Can't you just take a couple of shirts or jumpers out and wear them? Stuff some underwear into your pockets. Might get weird looks from the xray guys, but oh well, you save $60

    • +4

      One time I flew into Perth from Melbourne on Tiger Airways and totally forgot about the checked baggage excess coming back. I would have been up for ~$300 at 30 bucks per kilo. The check-in staff explained that they were obliged to be very strict on check-in baggage, but very strongly hinted that this was not as strictly enforced (at the time) for carry-on.

      I ended up filling half a rubbish bin with unused brochures & catalogues, left behind a thick paperback that I'd finished reading, filled up my carry-on to the limit and wore* the rest.

      *"Wore" as in wearing clothing and stuffing pockets, not as in "wearing" the excess charges!

      • +2

        BOOOOOOOOOO… you blew a great opportunity for a "wearing" pun and the rudimentary ringing of the pun Bell.

      • +1

        I few Tiger about 4 months ago, MEL —> SYD. I usually do online check-in so I can just walk straight onto the plane, but the system wasn't working so I had to walk up to the counter to get my boarding pass when I arrived at the airport.

        I didn't intend to check any luggage (and consequentially hadn't pre-purchased any); instead I had two small bags with me that I was going to use for carry-on.

        Before handing me the boarding pass she insisted that I weigh my carry-on bags on the scales.

        As it turned out, the bags combined exceeded the allowed weight for carry-on baggage (I forget exactly what the weight was). She said I had to check at least one of the bags or she wouldn't give me the boarding pass.

        Cost me $60.

        So shrug dunno, maybe it just depends what staff are around on the day or how bitchy they're feeling.

        • No she was sticking to the rules as you should have done. It cost you $60. Imagine if the staff member decided to weigh your bags at the gate (which happens every so often) then it would have been even more difficult.

          When I went to Thailand at Easter I wasn't checking in anything. I was flying 3 different airlines and read up on all their policies and stuck the most strict one (being Virgin's CBR - SYD flight). Never had a problem.

  • +3

    Weights/measure issue are federally regulated (since 2010) - at least I believe so

    http://www.measurement.gov.au/TradeMeasurement/Pages/default…

    They would be the appropriate agency, especially as Airports fall into "Federal" laws?

  • Did you pay with a credit card? if so contact your bank and initiate a chargeback ion the basis that you were incorrectly charged and did not receive what you paid for.

    • Great advice. Its simple as that.

  • +3

    I read every word of your rant because I feel just as strongly as you do on Jetstars poor/rude service. I once wrote my rant of jetstar on these forums.

    My experience was blatant lies from jetstar staff after cancelling my flight, and telling i can take a cab home at their expense and come back on a cab the next day at their expense. (i did insist on cabcharge vouchers, but was told no, they refund cabs "all the time" due to flith cancellations)

    After i followed the attendants instructions, the scumstar customer service refused to refund any of it, and stated they had no such policy for customers.

    After that experience, i have no doubt, the understaffed carrier really can't be bothered providing proper training to their staff and lies/poor service and plain rudeness are not uncommon.

    • +2

      But can I add, just because i had a poor experience with jetstar, i won't generalise poor service to exist in Australia in general.

      OP, please have faith good service can still exist here.

      • I really hope so, for the sake of this country's economy. It's plainly obvious, eg. from ozbargain deals here, most local businesses can forget in competing on price. We are certainly paying premium to the local businesses, and now if they stuff up the service too… Oh well.

        Perhaps what tipped me over the edge in this case was when they tried with that filthy lowball offer of $50 voucher and then, less than 10 secs later, double it up to $100. I seriously can't see any professionalism nor sincerity in their part in responding to my complaint as a customer.

        Honestly when I sent the complaint along with the photos as a prove, I thought I will get my money back for sure. Even when I borrowed the scales from the Qantas check in area, I told the Qantas staff what happened, she was confident that I should have no problem in getting a refund.

        By the way, that stupid voucher he promised, haven't received it in my email yet.

        Now after reading all of the stories such as cloudy's above, I feel I did let them go too easily. If I still have the mood, I will take it further and write a nice letter to ACCC this weekend and see how it goes.

  • TAKE IT FURTHER. We will never fly jet star again. Although had no problems at check-in the flight,lack of service i.e. would not even provide a glass of water ( had to buy a bottle for $4.00 ),attitude of flight attendants who looked as if they belonged behind the counter in coles or woollies with less personality, seating ridiculously small with no leg room. In hindsight we should have known it would not be a good experience but will certainly not be one that will happen again. This was a flight from Perth to Singapore in August where we were due to board a cruise on the Sun Princess ( who cancelled the sailing because of maintenance problems leaving 2000 of us stranded at the dock ) We looked into flights back home on our ipad ( A god send to have) & could have flown back with guess who? but decided to wait for a day & flew home with Singapore Airlines (BLISS).Don't accept their attitude - whilst it is only $60.00 - try multiplying it by the thousands of gullible passengers they charge it to!!

    • +4

      tbh it sounds like you went on JS with too high expectations. The water thing is pretty standard. Unsure about smaller seats though - according to seat guru they have the same dimensions

    • +4

      I've flown with Jetstar many times and have found the crew much more helpful than Qantas staff. The thing is you need to adjust your expectations accordingly. It's a low cost carrier and you shouldn't expect a high level of customer service and yes you pay for everything.

      If you need more leg room, pay for it (btw the width and pitch of the seats are the same as Qantas). That's the great thing about the LCC business model. I went to Fiji to get married recently. Flew over on Jetstar and booked an exit row as I'm tall. A staff member came up to us while we were waiting to board with our wedding dress. She offered to put the dress in her personal stowage area on the plane rather then put it in the overhead lockers like we were expecting.

      We were beyond grateful. Before we left the flight she was waiting for us with the dress in hand.

      I flew home on Qantas where I didn't get an exit row (but some 5"4 tall midget looking teenager did) and was cramped for hours. Because there were different classes it meant that there was only one set of toilets causing a queue for the entire flight. The staff were unfriendly and it was a totally crap.

  • +1

    6 kg excess, 15 per kilo, so the lady said she's gonna charge us $90. We refused…….

    To cut his mumbling and jumbling, I asked straight to the point whether the reason of his call is to give me a full refund or what, but he kept rambling on,

    Hmmmmmmmm

  • lol, technically, they just owe you $46.50 … allowing for that 0.9kg over

  • A few months ago w' 15 kg allowable luggage I checked it at the hotel and it was 15 kg. I would've been stashing every pocket and hobbled in 2 pairs of shoes if necessary to get the weight down. At check in it weighed 14.8 kgs and they looked positively disappointed

  • +1
  • +6

    I should not share this as they will likely fix it, but it works every year when I go to Japan snowboarding…. The whole frame of the luggage scale is connected, you carefully place your foot under the metal part that sticks out and 'jam' the scale a few kg's lighter.

    Tricks:
    They generally only look at the weight within the first 5-10 seconds when you first put your bag on the scales so that's the best time to try your luck.

    Be as steady as you can so don't have a big night the night before flying….

    Make sure you are hidden from the person checking you in (easy to do) as soon as he/she moves to tag your bag, you can let go, they are no longer looking at the weight (They could notice on the second scale, but generally unless there is a need to, they don't even look)

    Good Luck!

    • +2

      This trick works at many airports. I noticed it at Beijing international as well.

    • +1

      I've used this all over Australia and Asia. Works almost every time!

  • +1

    Jetstar customer service " POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND IF COMPLAINT OFFER $50 VOUCHER" They believe poor customer service can be convinced with voucher and sophisticated excuses.

    • And say ur not happy still and they then double it.

    • Well it seems they are right to believe that doesn't it - what with the OP accepting it.

  • +1

    The experience posted here with Jetstar is in great contrast to my experience with Air Asia X in Mumbai, where I rocked up to the counter with 22kg of baggage when I had prebooked just 20. My mistake. The lady behind the counter asked for extra payment but I had just been defrauded of my last rupees (long story) so didn't have any and offered to pay by credit card. She smiled and said not to worry about it and let it slide.

    Maybe it was the fact that I was flying premium economy, maybe it was a different attitude in customer service from another low cost carrier.

    • nah.. I used Qantas on Business (J class) and similar attitude at the check-in and cabin crew.

  • +7

    I've flown Jetstar often and if you stick to the rules you don't have a problem. One time they emailed me about a change of flight times and then a second and third time. I ignored the last one thinking it was the same email and when I rocked up on time I had my printout and was told the flight had chaged again and the plane had left. I was directed to customer service where the girl was being berated by a guy who had arrived after check in had closed and the aircraft doors closed who demanded to be let on the plane. When it was my turn I explained to the girl what had happened and took responsibility for not having read the last email. She asked if I would like to be on a flight the next day or later that afternoon( about a 4 hour wait for the next available seats) Decided to wait it out and was given 2x$10 vouchers to use at the airport for lunch and changed my flight with no extra charge. ( I was fully expecting to have to pay extra for the later flight)
    Always found that if you are polite you get a lot more help than if you go in guns blazing.

    • +1

      I can assure you we were being very very polite throughout the entire time. I'm not the type of person who can feel comfortable at berating someone in public. My tone at the time was more like, "Please understand our situation, we are only transiting here and we just flown using the same airlines, even under the same booking code." And do you know what her response was?

      I don't know how they operate things in Hawaii. Just be glad they didn't charge you too, otherwise it would cost you more.

      As I mentioned earlier, the airport was very very busy at that time and they were obviously understaffed and she must felt the pressure. But it's more of the management's issue, why lashed out on innocent customers?

      I can think of at least 10 different answers with the same content but 1000x more courteous and professional than that. It was like arguing with a kid.

      • +3

        Going by your post, you do come cross a bit rude.

        6 kg excess, 15 per kilo, so the lady said she's gonna charge us $90. We refused and then she was very rude.

        Why did you refuse to pay, what was your refusal based on. In the end you may of been correct, but at the time you had no idea.

        To cut his mumbling and jumbling, I asked straight to the point whether the reason of his call is to give me a full refund or what, but he kept rambling on,

        A lot of people believe they are above retail/service staff. IMO they all deserve our respect.

        I have never flown Jetstar, but out of the 20 times I've flown, never had a problem, yes certain areas could of been improved, but overall a pleasant experience.

        The last flight I went on from Bali, the air steward announced on the intercom, that Virgin have 5 of the best pilots working for them, unfortunately none of them were on the flight. The whole safety announcement had puns and gags through out and I received a good chuckle, 90% of the cabin, didn't find any humour in it.

        • +4

          Although I must say I'm not surprised, I can't understand how, out of a complaint story such as mine above, you (and some others too) put more attention into how rude or not rude the paying customer was, not the other way around. I thought the whole point of one is PAYING for service and someone else is GETTING PAID to deliver service is quite straight forward.

          As I explained earlier, I wasn't charged any extra luggage on our first flight from HNL, using the same airline, same itinerary, same baggage allowance. So I was surprised, refused to pay, and politely asked, because I felt something was wrong. And in this case I was right, because the scale was faulty.

          But whether who's right or wrong in the end, that's not my the point, because I was simply asking her why she charged me again on a service that I feel I had paid for already. I think it should be well within my rights to ask and does not warrant her attitude. It's not like I was asking for free business class upgrade or free meal or complaining why the seat's not 1 metre wide, or why the wine's not red, etc.

          Just for the record, I'm not having a go at you personally, ilostnemo, just speaking out on what I feel is wrong or lacking about service in general in this otherwise beautiful country, hence the reason why I'm writing this post after all.

          I guess in the end, we deserve those crap services because apparently as a community, we don't really care what they do to us, do we?

          I mean, when a customer, paying budget or not, was disputing an extra charge he/she felt unjustifiable and the paid staff is answering the customer in a rude way, and the watching community's thoughts are "Oh, give the staff a break, after all they are just human" or "She's just working" or "What can you expect by paying low cost", what are the chances that those businesses will put effort in improving their level of professionalism and decency on their staffs while it's easier to do nothing and keep raking profits?

        • +1

          Next time, it happens please follow this advice.

          Take a few deep breaths.

          Don't get into an argument with the service staff, but when they place a 20kg bag on a scale and it reads 22kg, take the other bags which weighed 23kgs each and place them on the scale that weighed the bag lighter.

          Sometimes a cool head is needed, getting staff offside gets you nowhere, being nice to staff sometimes pays dividends.

        • I love when you get a humorous crew, I've only had it a few times, but makes the flight that little bit more pleasant!

  • @ jinroh. Same happened to me. Their scale weighed my luggage in 2 kilos heavier than my home bathroom scale. Bastards charged me for that but the attitude came for free. I thought to myself never again…then 6 months later Jetstar seemed like the only choice due to schedule and gave it one more try…biggest mistake. 24hr delay with departure due to mechanical issue, missing bag and again plenty of staff attitude from start to finish during the 7 hr flight. I took the time to write a letter of complaint and received a $100 Jetstar voucher which I threw straight into the bin…NEVER AGAIN. I'd rather stay home than flying with Jetstar again.

  • Personally, It's not just Jetstar but I had few similar occasions with Qantas so I never recommend or use Qantas. And again had similar bas customer experience on another airline but used Qantas staff at their check-in counter.
    Qantas has some serious issues with their staff.

    • Same company at the end of the day…

      • Friends who work for Qantas hate Jetstar staff as much as everyone else :)

  • Thats when having big pockets in your coat comes in handy!

    If you think jetstar are mean try flying ruanair lol

  • +2

    I've only had to deal with so called Jetstar Customer Service once and found them completely useless. In fact they didn't even respond to any emails and their phone support people hung up on me 3 times so they didn't have to answer any difficult questions (Note: I was EXTREMELY courteous on the phone and never once abuse them or raise my voice)

    At the end I just went to Fair trading and got my refund. I wish there was some sort of travel agent / airline ombudsman in Australia.

    Although if it's any consolation, it's nowhere near as bad as Expedia customer service, which was another issue I had to raise with Fiar Trading. The lady at FT said that she deals with a lot of useless companies on a daily basis but has never come across people as useless as Expedia. True story.

    • ohh my, Expedia are actually hopeless. If you cant do it 100% online with expedia- forget it.

  • I've flown with Jetstar many times short haul AU-NZ and have not had a problem. Being a budget airline I expect them to only have 2 counters open so I arrive with plenty of time to spare, and keep my weight < 1 Kg over the allowance.

    I'm not adventurous enough to try Jetstar to any other destinations based on your guys experiences here.

    I leave positive feedback on their website (even if the experience was nothing special) just to say I didn't have any problems with Jetstar and I would use them again.
    - they still send me a $50 voucher.

  • Only an ozbargainer would carry a portable scale lol

  • I have seen many passengers rudely demanding the check-in counter staff to ignore the baggage limit, and this was way back when they weren't strictly enforcing the limit so I can see why, by the time they deal with you, their patience have worn thin, even if you were being polite. Not justifying their actions, they are just human after all.

  • +3

    I remember reading about somebody in a ski magazine that was on the way home from a skiing holiday. The airline tried to hit them with excess baggage so they took out their bulky ski clothes and boots and put them on. Flew back wearing ski clothes and boots! Would have loved to see that guy clumping onto the plane in ski boots!!

  • +1

    Let me tell, being someone who used to work at check-in, we faced nonstop arguments from customers about excess charges all day long when it's people just trying to avoid valid fees. It wears you down hugely, and we tend not to listen after dealing with the same thing all day even if circumstances might differ slightly. People also play games with their baggage weight like you wouldn't believe so unfortunately trust factors go out the window.

    I've experienced the opposite to you in the USA, rude, dismissive and unhelpful people.

  • +1

    I have similar problem with Jetstar, pay for online with allocated seating, gone on board there where problems. The staff assures me I'll be getting a refund for allocating seats when I arrive back home and inquire about the refunds, silence completely utter silence, eventually some one call me back about the refunds and offer me a cheap voucher.

    I've ask for cash refunds they refuse, give me a crap reason they don't offer cash refunds. So in the end it pisses off the misses and we will never flight with Jetstar :)

    No complaint with Virgin.

    • Goto FAIR TRADING.
      This is somewhat similar to what happened to me. The ground staff will tell you 'You can get a refund etc..' when there's a screw up BUT when you subsequently email/call their customer service they are completely and utterly useless and won't do anything.

      Mine wasn't a huge a amount but I did it out of principle and got it back along with 2X taxi fares that they owed me.

  • This is simply an oversight by Jetstar's IT staff.

    They forgot to add a "Weigh Scale Calibration Fee" and mandatory "Whinge Fee" to bring it in line with the other 326 fees they tack onto the $39 advertised flight to bring the total cost to $1,452.

    Jetstar and Virgin shouldn't be compared.

    Virgin considers itself a premium carrier and competes with Qantas, not with budget airlines like Jetstar.

  • +1

    To the few people who have provided advice and complements to jetstar I appreciate you are trying to help and only giving your experience , which is completely valid and was my option of jetstar too.

    But after the one time jetstar completely fked me over and burnt a few hundred bucks out of my pocket from lies, I thought deep about why even a long standing client, who has flown jetstar 50times with no problems should consider not flying with them.

    What really defines a company, and also, i think an individual too, is not how well they can deal with the easy, the happy situations. The situations where the scale says 19.9kgs. Or the times when ur plane runs on time and all ur clients are happy. But it's the times when things don't work out, and how to deal with reasonable people, with reasonable requests. And jetstar are scums in this situation.

    What frustrates me is not when a plane is grounded due to a unexpected machanical failure (I don't want to die flying), but what I want is communication and honesty that a plane won't fly, and commitment to help find another flight to get me where I am going.

    Or in the OP situation, not an argument over a few kilos and saying the op is lying, but maybe consider trying a few scales to demonstrate they are reasonable, and if the scale is either right or wrong based on other scales.

    Jetstar just don't give a shit, period, that's what frustrates me.

  • Poor customer services from Jetstar,Tiger Air,Myer,HN,JB Hi-Fi,David jones, TGG,Optus,Telstra…And the List Goes On… It's a sad sad world that we're living in….We will just have to LIVE with it

  • i fly with jetstar to hochiminh city 3 times. the first 2 times is very happy.i read on website that i can bring a carry on bag with a hand bag for labtop.mobile or camera .i checkin with 2 young lady and they very kind and did not check the weight of my carry on bag.i put 15 kg in there :D. my checked bags is extra 2 kg more but they let me go.but the last time i got trouble with old lady.my carry on bag is 17 kg .she want me to pay $25/kg. I told her i never get check the weight carry on bag before so i put it heavy. but she angry with me and said if im not pay she will take the overweight bag and put in the bin. i dont want to lost it but dont have enogh money to pay. so i ask her for help because this is gift for family oversea but she still angry with me. i see many people wait behind so i take one small bag about 10 kg and tell her i ll give away to my brother wait outside but i just leave on the chair near there and after check in .i bring it on the airplain with me. so no need to pay $25/kg.

    so if one day you get trouble with weight when checkin. you just leave the excess kgs some where and take it with you later after checkin. im 100% sure no problem if it not too big.

  • They left me stranded in honolulu for 48 hours which caused me to miss 2 days of work. I was pissed that it took them that long to get me a replacement flight. first it was a 12 hour delay. then another 12 hours. then another 24 hours. terrible service. compensation was not given, just a couple of vouchers.

  • +2

    All airlines screw up, sometimes, and also you get bad service with even the best. As one person above puts it, staff get excuses all day about things that arent right. Hey one here even posts that they got away with it for 2 flights and now is pissed because the third time they got called.

    I have had issues in the past with Emirates, Singapore airlines, Virgin, Qantas, Jetstar, Continental, United, American, Scoot, Cathay, Ansett and so on. I used to get upset but after a while you understand its a percentage risk.

    Some airlines it's lower than others.

    No I dont get it often, I have a million mile Gold status with American, flew 2 weeks out of every month for various jobs, so I got exposed to more issues.

    And yes I boycotted airlines, and like most I accept issues and misunderstandings arise. Hell I used to fly when smoking was the norm on flights, where smokers would sit in non smoking and then walk back into smoking to have a drag, while non smokers couldnt get a seat . (try that on a 15 hour flight).

    But most issues can be excused, if someone apologises and makes amends.

    So for the OP. Boycott them when you can, if they offer a cheap enough flight sometime in the future, then decide if that's cheap enough to make up for the past experience.

    I did the same after a bad experience with Scoot cancelling a flight. Booked another $66 trip from Singapore to Sydney recently. When I paid the $5 early checkin fee at Singapore, the checkin agent wss so nice, they upgraded our seats for free. So sometimes it works the other way.

    All that said its extremely frustrating when you feel you are being screwed over like you were. I think given your experience I would have felt probably more angry that you seem to have been.

    BTW Skip any advice to go to the ACCC. They arent interested in doing anything unless it's a major news story. People are being ripped off by fraudesters for $1000's and the ACCC hasn't got the manpower to enforce the law even when they have the evidence. So a $60 issue with a company the size of Jetstar wont even get a letter from them.

    But if you are late with your ACCC business registration fee, watch the debt collectors they will use…

    • +1

      Very good advice right there, it's the cheap airfare roulette, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!

  • ACCC is a waste of space and not the right place to go anyway for minor stuff. It's best to goto Fair Trading to have some additional likelihood of getting your money back.

  • I was returning from cairns to GC in march an had done a little shopping so my suitcase was 3kgs over the limit.

    I was with my 3 young children for whom I had paid full fares for. Their combined weight is less than 75kgs.

    I looked at the check in person and pointed out the combined weights of my children is nothing compared to additional weight of 3 adults and therefore couldn't she let the luggage through.

    not a chance.

    So, just did a quick swap of the heavier items in to the carry on luggage and was done. rules are rules but maybe a little common sense/practicality.

    meanwhile Fatty McBoombarr, weighing in at 140kgs and with his luggage under the limit, waddles straight through check-in.

    • +1

      I don't know why people constantly think the rules don't apply to them. Sure there's plenty of factors which can affect weight on the plane, ie kids vs adults but that's not how it works and would complicate things dramatically.

      As I said at the start of the thread, travel with a portable scale, know the rules and you wont have a problem.

    • +1

      You can't expect them to do that. That's just a directive from the airline which they need to follow with little discretion allowed. They can be reprimanded for allowing people through. Also where do you draw the line? I weigh probably 30% less than the average person, should I expect my luggage allowance to be offset against my weight?

      I'm all for airfare and allowances being based on how much space and weight I occupy BUT until such time as that happens It would be ridiculous to expect concessions on an ad-hoc basis.

      Ironically, airline staff get shitty because they have to constantly deal with people with unreasonable expectations like yours and because of that they mostly refuse to exercise the smallest of directions for the next passenger.

      • -2

        chill people. It was 3 kgs.

        besides, this is ozbargain. am I not going to try and get a discount/no cost?.

        like I said - "rules are rules" and "did a quick swap of the heavier items in to the carry on luggage and was done."

        so, relax, it was no hassle for me and I'm not complaining. I'm just stating a perspective and the stupidity of these rules (yes, which staff have to enforce) and how inflexible the rules are.

        • +1

          yeah but you also argued with staff on the matter. You knew the rules, so why did you think they wouldn't stick by them?

        • +1

          I don't think anyone is not 'chilled' or 'relaxed'. We're simply stating that you are wrong, irrespective of how you feel.

          The rules are inflexible for a reason. The reason being is the low cost airlines' business model. They are very strict because they (theoretically) offer very low margin seats and potentially recoup some of that margin through add-on services/penalties which a passenger can avoid if they choose to.

          You can't goto a budget airline and then expect flexibility.

          In your case it worked out fine by shuffling some clothing which is perfect and great thinking. I'm just talking about the MINDSET you have demonstrated (not uncommon) which airline staff have to deal with on a regular basis. It adversely impacts on rare GENUINE cases where they're simply not in the mood any more to exercise some common sense and empathy.

        • Firstly, I don't know where you got the "argued with staff on the matter".

          you're assuming 2 things. that: (a) I knew they have rules; (b) they have no flexibility with them.

          in response to (a) yes, I'm well aware that there are luggage limits.

          in response to (b) "why did you think they wouldn't stick by them?" because my experience in the past has shown that staff don't always stick to them.

          In the past I've had my luggage weigh over the limit (once by 13 kgs) and the check in staff have put it through with out blinking. this was my first or second (or maybe 3rd or 4th) time flying with jetstar. I've flown approx 60 times in the last 20 years and have only been asked once for an excess baggage charge (which was adverted by repacking my hand luggage). In march when flying singapore to HK I was 3 kgs over and the checkin guy didn't worry.

          so, essentially YMMV with check in staff.

        • From above deleted quote
          "This is a service industry. Customers expect things"

          I'm afraid, this falls under unrealistic expectations i.e False sense of entitlement.

        • -2

          I'm afraid, this falls under unrealistic expectations i.e False sense of entitlement.

          Lol

        • +2

          You don't think the statement

          "I looked at the check in person and pointed out the combined weights of my children is nothing compared to additional weight of 3 adults and therefore couldn't she let the luggage through."

          Was arguing?

        • -2

          no.

          arguing involves backward and forward debate.

          like this.

        • +2

          Incorrect

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