Student offer now available on Surface Pro 2 as well.
64GB - $917
128GB - $1016
256GB - $1322
512GB - rip off
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Microsoft Surface Pro 2 PC Tablet, 10% off for Students, Starts at $917
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what if i told you it was the same price as an ipad?
i see what you did there
Did you just compare an i5 Haswell to an Atom Bay Trail…
I suppose with that logic that T100 would technically do the same thing as my i7 workstation with FirePro graphics
As someone who completed a computing degree on an Atom Netbook (including full development on Visual Studio): Students, do yourself a favor and do not get an Atom-based computer for your work.
The new Atom Bay Trail is a completely difference CPU it can even play some 3D games.
It CAN??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, "don't give them too powerful machine to play with :p"
u shud be 'superfornever forever'
yash..no.
Wow, didn't know a T100 could run 64-Bit applications out-of-the-box with an i5 CPU and 4Gb RAM. Thanks for the advice Superforever, you just saved me a fortune! (faux plus & TIC)
Wow, didn't know a T100 could run 64-Bit applications out-of-the-box with an i5 CPU and 4Gb RA
That is always a thinking problem with a tech mind instead of marketing mind. By the look at the number of Surface they sold it is very clear they are wrong with what people want.
or may be find a student among family.
UNSW Students have 4 zmail alias that will accept incoming emails -> means if there's a limit for 1 per student, all these should verify as different "students", just find a willing UNSW friend to get them to click a verification link for you :), I'm not sure about other unis though:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]I guess if you're really desperate, sign up to tafe, drop the tafe course right after your email has been issued. If you're an Australian citizen, pretty sure you should be able to get student-travel concession card via tafe as well.
unsw reppin!
Or make friends with your Uni IT department… we're not bad guys :)
When does one receive the confirmation email from Microsoft when authenticating through the school?
You get a "Go to this link" email instantly..
thanks had to verify twice to get the link instantly
i don't think this product is good, as MS cannot state how long the battery will last.
Next year, New Atom might have a balance of process power and longer battery
Next year, New Atom might have a balance of process power and longer battery
There's always next year for everything..
Personally, I would hold out until next year though, since exams are coming up within 2 weeks (UNSW), and power typecover comes out start of next year.
isn't power typecover supposed to be like ~$200 - $250? I can't justify paying that much for a keyboard lol… that's like another tablet! Considering Surface Pro 2 already has Haswell and all
I can't justify paying that much for a keyboard lol… that's like another tablet! Considering Surface Pro 2 already has Haswell and all
It's 50% more battery life (supposively)
I'm waiting till next year to see how good it is regardless, my disposable cash is going towards a gaming comp over the summer, my laptop is about to blow up if I game anymore :)I REALLY hate how microsoft don't include a friggen keyboard at the Surface Pro 2 price..
Apparently the proper name is Power CoverThe Docking Station and Power Cover aren't expected to ship until early 2014, when they'll cost $200 each; the USB car charger arrives at the same time for $50.
From http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/surface-2-and-surface-pro…
Looks to be $200USD
The Type Cover 2 is supposed to be $150USD anyway, since the Surface Pro 2 doesn't come with a keyboard, $50 more for a slightly thicker + 50% more battery life (9-10 hours all up) is pretty good. Will mean it can be used through the entire day without bringing a charger.
No battery life indication for the Surface Pro 2?
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msaus/en_AU/html/pbPage.…
On webpage, under battery life:
7-15 days idle life
Charges in 2-4 hours with included power supplyif you can't see the difference, it means you still don't get it
compare these
left Surface Pro 2:
7-15 days idle life
Charges in 2-4 hours with included power supplyright Surface 2:
Up to 10 hours6
7-15 days idle life
Charges in 2-4 hours with included power supplygot it?
these battery figures are fine because all you'll want to do with this thing is leave it at home idling.
reviews ive read have said theres been a drastic improvement on the battery life due to the haswell core. It got an approximate 7 - 8 battery life which is okay for a laptop if your are going to work on it. but shitty for a tablet if your are looking towards games, watching videos, reading pdfs or e-books.
I wouldnt call 8 hours of actual use shitty for a tablet…
The Surface Pro 2 gives about 6 to 7 hrs of battery under normal usage (i.e. watching FHD movies from YouTube etc), the Surface Pro gives about 3 hrs under the same scenario.
C&P from Harvey Norman Surface Pro 2
http://www.harveynorman.com.au/microsoft-surface-pro-2-128gb…The Surface Pro 2 runs on the latest Haswell Core i5-4200U 1.6GHz Processor from Intel for an extra fast tablet which coincides with the 4GB of RAM to give you better multitasking whilst offering up to 10 hours of battery. Running with Windows 8.1 Pro operating system, you can stay updated with apps on the Start screen and add live tiles to fit your needs, with plenty more apps to be discovered in the Windows Store*.
512gb msata ~ $550
256gb msata ~$250 ($180 if you can still find the lite-on ssd and rip it out)You're paying a premium of $300 to have the biggest ssd on a tablet in the market (compared to asus having hdd on their keyboards).
If it wasn't for that bonded glass design of the tablet…
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Pro+2+Teard…
for anyone who doesn't care about warranty.
only thing im worried about is the screen being too small for good productivity. 10.6" is no giant, even with FHD - which is why considering Flip 13 or Yoga.
Is $100 extra for 64GB storage worth it? Or better off putting in a microSD
defs too small to be using as a core work stations. If you were to use it as a core workstation, might consider getting a HDMI to extend to a bigger screen when your get to uni/home/work
Else i would suggest getting an ultrabook for this price.
That's why they are not selling good, not many people like to use that screen size as their core machine.
The tablet is too thick and too heavy to carry. Most people use tablet is mainly as a casual device.
But MS try to make it a pro station so they still don't get it.
..Problem is the market is flooded with great 13 - 15 laptops. Gotta find a niche somewhere.
I think the Surface Pro is a great combinations, just don't need another tablet
If MS have a Surface 2 (not pro) with Intel Bay Trail and same price as now. I would say it will sell a lot better than current Surface 1 or 2.
But their concern is they have to give some room for other partners.
Neither have the active stylus, which is a big selling point
After a certain point it becomes too heavy to use as a tablet unless you have cyborg arms
It's a ripoff compared to buying a SSD from a store..but I reckon 128 is the minimum for me
pretty sure Flip 13 has the N-trig stylus, although can't remember if it comes with the device.
the Yoga 2 doesn't get the stylus but it's uglier more robust little brother yoga 11 does get wacom
I'll take your word for it, Lenovo have a lot of models and I get lost. Yoga 2 Pro looks pretty deluxe!
But yeh I agree with your previous point, played around with my friend's original Yoga and it seemed quite large for a "tablet" not to mention clunky. Will be interesting to feel the weight and bulk of the new version and the Flip. Although that being said Yoga 2 Pro is mighty fine device! Dat res.
Yeh 128GB seems like the sweet spot, $300 for the extra 128 not worth.
EDIT: sorry made a mistake earliar it was the Thinkpad Yoga which gets the wacom digitizer (got lost myself)
The 256g model of surface pro 2 also comes with 8 gigs of RAM though.
I don't know who MS is trying to sell this Tablet to.
- as a tablet, there's plenty of lighter and more portable tablets out there - they are also cheaper.
- as a laptop, there's touch-screen laptop.
- as both, there's the Asus slider.
the niche market MS is aiming at may be too small.
You wouldn't know it by their over-colourful far-too-cheerful advertising BUT I could very easily see one of these on every one of the few hundred desks here at work as they'd be the perfect all-rounder with enough grunt to run most applications required. Dock them and use them with a full-size dual-screen keyboard & mouse setup for 7.5 hours during the day then undock them and take them home or travelling or whatever.
Pretty sure Microsoft want to roll these out across all their enterprise client sites like my workplace. These are basically spec'd the exact same way as the $800 HP PCs we're currently buying so for that little bit extra these would be ideal. All I need to do now is convince my boss :|
All I need to do is convince my boss :|
How old is your boss? If 40-50 forget about it because the screen is too small for him. If he don't like it he won't get it for the office :)
BTW how can you read the desktop on a 1920x1080 10" screen?
I reckon the perfect size is 13.3", if they can make a thin, light, foldable tablet with keyboard dock that will be perfect for both world.
Erm, you wouldn't. You'd connect an external monitor or two for serious work while at your desk plus use a proper mouse & keyboard… exactly the same way users do now with Notebooks and Folios.
Ignoring the Windows modern apps - which work fine on any size screen.
Windows 8.1 gives you independent screen scaling. I have my 10" screen scaled at 1.4 and the desktop is incredibly usable (more with the mouse and keyboard - but even with my finger) and my 2.5k Dell monitor at 1.0 scaling. You would be surprised how good this works just on the 10" screen. I've been using Photoshop and Lightroom directly on the screen when I need to - but ofcourse the external monitor is always the preference.
Try it - you'd be surprised how good it all works.
Yeah I know the screen is good on Surface but not worth for me to go for the Pro version.
The RT is useless as it is, just don't bother with the surface if you're not going pro lol.
How is it useless? It comes with a full version of MS Office. You'd get more work done on a Surface RT than you ever would with any other tablet.
Useless for what? If the Surface 2 is useless, then so too is every other non-Windows 8 tablet (i.e. Android & iPad).
If you want productivity; you get a free version of Office which is far superior to anything offered on the competition.
If you want browsing, you get a full web experience. No compromises. No reliance on an app alternative.
If you want media, you can connect it to your usb hdd, flash drive, add a microSD, or connect to your home network straight out of the box.
It is also excellent for multi-tasking, e.g. play a music video on youtube whilst editing a word document.
If the above represents your needs in a tablet, then far from being useless, it is, in fact, one of the best options.
There are x86 tablets going for $350 with a tactile keyboard included, buy a copy of office and you're still ahead. Why pay more on a crippled version of windows.
Photoshop express sure is productive…
My post clearly states "if the above represents your needs" i.e. Office, browsing, and media player. Not photoshop (i wouldn't be investing in a Clover Trail tablet if that was your need), and it was in response to your statement that RT was useless, which is clearly hyperbolic.
It's all relative, theres a reason windows RT is going down the sh*thole. No one wants to pay more for a gimped version of windows that can't run legacy programs.
Surface 2 is a fine piece of hardware. RT just devalues it by alot. Sure IOS is a closed system just like RT, but their app store can back it up. Have you seen the MS Marketplace? There's nothing useful in there
Have YOU seen the MS Marketplace? Clearly you haven't
Cool they added a recipe booklet for and facebook and some health apps. Still doesn't change the fact that RT is a gimped OS.
I can't see why people don't get the market for this. I have one - and I've thrown away my laptop and my tablet because of this.
I can carry it around like a book - so it's always on me (there's no hesitation about taking it anywhere).
It hooks up to my 27" 2.5k monitor at full resolution and runs Lightroom, Photoshop and Premiere Pro better than my laptop ever did (thanks Haswell) - although admittedly - a desktop would be my choice here.
Just last night - I finished off a photoshop picture in bed using the stylus.
I showed a preview of my first cut in Adobe Premiere to a bunch of people in tablet mode.I can't see any of the devices you listed above being able to do this. Yet I can do all of that with a single device that weighs about 200g more and is infinitely more useful than an ipad and is a lot more portable than a laptop. To me - it's the best of both worlds - not the compromise that people seem to think it is. I feel sorry for people that have to carry around two devices and don't have what they need on them when they need it
OMG, I need you to talk to my boss! The dual-device situation is exactly where our users are at now. Friggin' iPads in a non-Apple environment! What a joke! Surfaces for everyone would (will) be a dream come true.
In the real world, enterprise still won't want to go to Windows 8, how can they go even further to Surface Pro?
In consumer market, not many will pay that money for a tablet but the non pro version is not full Windows for them to use it as their desktop/laptop replacement?
It still a long way for Surface.
I see your point about enterprise - but in the end - it's a shame. Windows 8 is a decent step up - especially with these hybrid devices but the learning curve is a big one for the computer illiterate.
Absolutely. Still too exxy for most in the domestic market BUT we're buying very basic HP PCs brand new for $800 when we know could build the equivalent PCs ourselves for less than half that so even at $1200-$1300 a pop these should suit Enterprise buyers nicely as it means iPads or other Tablets don't have to be purchased on top of the cost of a Desktop PC.
It is not that easy for enterprise to move from one OS to another OS, they have just moved to 7 …… some still XP lol.
Tell me about it. I've spent many weekends upgrading hundreds of Desktop PCs whenever we've upgraded but we've been on Win7 now for quite a while and although running perfectly well it's obvious we're not going to stay on Win7 forever. I give it another 12-18 maybe 24 months absolute max.
Are they pure standard Win7 PCs, are they joined Domain? Do they have customized enterprise programs on them?
Where did you throw your laptop and tablet away? I would like to pick them up, thanks.
In my girlfriend's direction - you may have to fight her for it.
Hm.. how strong is she? And can I cheat by having the Undertaker throw me a fold-away chair?
Needs a push from Apple's marketing team before people realise the potential, or are brainwashed by it.
All that's missing really is development on thunderbolt. It wouldn't surprise me seeing people use these as their main rigs in the future. No need to have to adapt to 2-3 different desktops between tablets and laptops, let alone all the syncing of files.
I too am using a an i5 tablet as a main, doesn't output over 1080p though, abit of a steep price to upgrade to a tablet that does.
Not sure how you can describe this as 'no compromise.' It's thicker, heavier and with poorer battery life relative to ARM tablets, with a barren wasteland of an app market. Conversely, it's weak relative to a notebook or desktop with a cramped screen and keyboard. Sure, it can perform both these tasks tolerably well, but it's far from ideal in any one traditional role, and you're paying through the nose for the benefit. I appreciate the fact that they added the dock this time around but to me, I still can't stomach that price.
Just fired up the crystal ball.
Ad from the future.
DODO has announced new plan.
Data plan 3G 20GB for $30 per month.
Sign up for 24 months and get a free Microsoft surface proOr $99 Surface Pro like the HP tablet :p
any link?
Ultrabook FTW:
I think some new CPUs will start to come out Q1 of 2014.still very pricey….
Ahaaa up vote for rip off comment !! Haaaa
Its a pity they didn't give it any cellular data capability.
Don't forget ing for extra 5%
How the hell are you going to use ING paywave on the microsoft site..?
ing is 100$ or less
Multi-transactions if the checkout chick doesn't give a crap.
Can break $1000 daily transaction limit with gift cards as well.
However, there's no checkout chicks in the online microsoft store.. or a paywave terminal :|
Qwibble are aparently doing 6.4% cash back for eligble surface purchases not sure if this counts but could be worthwhile if it is
http://www.qwibble.com.au/microsoft-store-australiawow this looks interesting, sorry could you enlighten me. How does quibble work exactly? do you just sign up and then you buy the item?
Sign up to Qwibble then bring up the microsoft page on qwibble and use that link to visit the Microsoft store, they will track the purchase and later on down the track you should recieve your cashback either directly in your bank account or via paypal depending how you set up your account. The Help section on qwibble as per @adhins link will probably explain it better than me, I've used them before for other retailers and it worked.
I received an email from qwibble at the start of October advertising the surface cashback extract -
Microsoft have increased the cashback rate for all Surface products to 6.4% …which is just in time for the release of the Surface 2 tablets.
how long do they take to give you credit? and how long will it take to get the cash back?
Please carefully consider your choice of storage size lol
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-au/support/storageWell after price matching of course that is when ing comes in…
Hey I'm a part time student studying in TAFE and they don't provide edu emails. Is there alternatives to show proof that I'm a student?
Tafe card?
You can try bluff a HN sales assistant and ask if you can get 10% since the microsoft store offers it to you.
Otherwise, get someone with an EDU email to click a link for you.
Did anyone figure out how to get 10% off the Type Cover ? Or any other Surface accessories?
The Touch Cover 1 is on sale at $99.99 (reviews are generally bad for this keyboard).
Supposedly qwibble will give you 6.4% cash-back.
The new TRS Scheme says you can purchase up to 60 day before you leave, so I'll be taking my new Surface 2 Pro on holidays.
256gb Surface 2 Pro is 1322.
6.4% qwibble cash back is $84.61
10% GST refund is $120.18Total out of pocket is $1117.21
Very cool. Now all I gotta do is become a student!