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From what I can see no minimum spend, $10.95 shipping under $99 and free shipping over.
Shipping will be regular Australia Post with use of voucher
just a special promotion we currently running
1000000 hours life raises a huge flag with me, same with 1000 lumen output from a gu10 240v light source? No ctick certification nor lighting council approved labels?
Sounds like an unrealistic overspecced chinese nasty to me
Buyer beware, self installation can be dangerous ie live current if not properly produced especially with an "aluminium alloy" housing
an unpleasant comment another led product seller i see =)
an unpleasant comment another led product seller i see =)
I am not "another LED product seller". However, I would like you to confirm that all items you are offering carry the required Australian Electrical Safety Certification(s).
Thanks.
Cheap but WTF + GST added at checkout - seriously ?
Good point, rep since your monitoring this post maybe you should check out this.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Businesses/Advertising_and…?
Specifically -
'The law makes it an offence to state only part of the price without also specifying the total amount to be paid. The full price includes any applicable GST.'
All product price are stated tax excluded on the product page, full price included tax are shown before final check out
Sorry I narrowed it down too much here's the rest of that section…
'If you include the price of a product in an advertisement, you must tell consumers the full cash price required to be paid in order to buy the product. Falsely raising customers’ expectations by telling them only part of the price of an item can lead to disappointment for the customer and can damage your reputation.'
A website page is an advertisement. If I walked in to Coles and they had a tag on a light bulb for $5.48 then that is their advertised price, they can't then say when you get to the register (in your websites case the check out) that they didn't include GST and that it has to be added.
This isn't a knock at you or your store, just letting you know that one part of your store isn't compliant with fair trading. As stated on fair trading's website it can damage your reputation.
I am getting quite annoyed with "cheap chinese misrepresented products" off OS sites.
OP, can you tell me what current draw at 12v does this led lamp have?
MR16 15W 12V Dimmable LED Downlight.
is it really 60 degree spread?
I have a stack of 50w halogen mr16's to replace in my house at the moment.
I agree, some of this stuff is pure danger, particularly when coming straight from a 240v A/C source, like the GU10 i mentioned above, at least with the MR16 it's going through a transformer, so not too bad, but still not nice to have a shock when replacing a bulb.
I know this ain't the right forum to say as everyone here is after cheapies being ozbargain and all, but sometimes its better to pay a few bucks and go the reputable guys, ie philips, osrams etc
I agree, some of this stuff is pure danger, particularly when coming straight from a 240v A/C source, like the GU10 i mentioned above, at least with the MR16 it's going through a transformer, so not too bad, but still not nice to have a shock when replacing a bulb.
I know this ain't the right forum to say as everyone here is after cheapies being ozbargain and all, but sometimes its better to pay a few bucks and go the reputable guys, ie philips, osrams etc
To be fair, the site does warn against anyone other than a licensed electrician installing the lamps/bulbs. However, the rep appears to have gone quiet - and has not replied to my question about electrical safety certification.
Surely the business would not be 'silly' enough to risk the massive fines and possible criminal charges by selling uncertified fittings and bulbs?
EDIT:
Although they are silly enough not to include GST in their prices. So, who knows?You would hope not, but nowadays its so easy to source led bulbs and onsell with little to no lamp knowledge.
Being in the general lighting industry myself, its getting terrible the amount of junk that i see installed, poor color maintenance/rendering, flickering, interferance with equipment, over heating and popping due to poor thermal management(which in extreme cases can result in fire), or worse case 'live' products. Its really destroying and making the market more dangerous.
I don't believe in bagging sellers like this one, as who knows he/she may be legit, but judging by his responses and professionalism you can be the judge…
Just a few tips to all buyers looking at getting quality lighting gear, things to look out for is whether the manufacturer/seller has:
- Proper EMC certifications and marks on their products (C-tick) on their products
- Has a lighting council of australia label or is a member of the lighting council of australia
http://www.lightingcouncil.com.au/site/ssl/label_Results.php
http://www.lightingcouncil.com.au/site/ssl/sslsupplier_Resul… - Has associated lux pyramids, LM70/80 reports, IES files to go with the product
- For general sellers, an 'about us' section, abn, store location and not just PO boxes or 1800 numbers, quick google search on reputations
However the last point most seasoned ozbargainers would already know :) and really applies to all online purchases, not only lighting products.
In terms of govt regulation i have been told by my reps in the big four lighting manufacturers sometime at the end of the year the government is going to be introducing stricter import laws in regards to LED's and penalizing electricians installing unapproved products. Insurance companies are starting to do the right thing, with some insurers not covering damage caused by illegal lighting products, which is fair enough in my opinion, but this government reg coming in couldn't happen any sooner.
Just my 2c
Wow the rep is getting roasted, think I'll subscribe just to hear the comeback.
Wow the rep is getting roasted,
I do not agree. The OP has been asked some quite reasonable questions. Which he has chosen to ignore so far. Hardly 'roasted'.
think I'll subscribe just to hear the comeback.
I agree that the OP's reply may be interesting.
They may retrieve their reputation by thanking the poster for pointing out their mistake with prices and GST, and stating that all items have the required safety certifications.
Don't want to add fuel to the flames but I'd also be interested in who is offering the 5 year warranty, you or the manufacturer?
Just because I've bought some of those LED 5W bulbs myself before and they certainly didn't come with a 5 year warranty, it's just a bit hard to be taking warrantys from a buisness that was registered on 3/9/13.
Hey Mark, we meet again ;)
There used to be quite a bit of five year warranties going about, which even the bigger manufacturers used to advertise, but even they have scaled back their warranties, i believe Philips currently have a 3 year warranty now for all their LED products over 20,000 hours, where previously they had some gear that was 5 years, but scaled that back on finding out some interesting issues with LED such as degredation and burnouts.
That's another good point to ask which i didn't mention in my above post, whether the warranty is provided by the seller or the manufacturer. If its provided by the manufacturer it can take quite a long lead time to claim(Lead time of return of products to manufacturer, testing, approval and release of funds). That even IF they can even get the claim processed at all!
B22 5W 240V LED Globe
http://modernlights.com.au/24-b22-5w-240v-led-globes.htmlAdvertised $10, add to cart $11, -$10 voucher,
Total delivered = $13.95
So, $3.95 more than original priced delivered after discount…
No Deal.Advertised $10, add to cart $11,
So, GST is being added and collected. As this Sole Trader is not registered for GST - what happens to this money he collects?
$12.95 delivery for a $5 globe lol
Submitted here https://www.accc.gov.au/contact-us/contact-the-accc/consumer… regarding the numerous breaches of Australian law throughout their website. Would encourage others to do the same.
You can add "Makes no warranty as to the completeness or accuracy of any material or as to its merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose." to the list of contradictions of Australian law
what is the min spend