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$125 Rebate on Electricity Bill for People Who Receive FTB A or B & Resident in NSW

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this is the second part of the installment from NSW government
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/106395

Energy rebates

Last updated: 1 July 2013

The NSW Government offers a number of rebates to help customers pay their energy bills. These rebates include the:

  • Low Income Household Rebate – for customers who hold eligible concession cards issued by the Federal Department of Human Services or the Department of Veterans Affairs;
  • Family Energy Rebate – available to customers who have received the Family Tax Benefit;
  • Life Support Rebate – for households where residents use certain medical equipment necessary to sustain life; and
  • Medical Energy Rebate – for eligible customers who have a medically diagnosed inability to self-regulate body temperature when exposed to extremes of environmental temperatures.

NSW network businesses (the businesses which operate the ‘poles and wires’) are required to provide a capped level of compensation to customers who have experienced frequent or extended periods of electricity outages. More information on the Energy Blackouts Compensation.

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  • +4

    wow, thanks OP.

    You will be helping alot of families that dont know about this offer

  • +1

    Thank You!!

  • +1

    i just got my first rebate

  • +1

    good for those who need it.

  • Do I NEED to apply to get this? My dad is already receiving a rebate of some sort (guessing pensioner). And is this given out per month or for the one bill?

    • $125 Rebate on Electricity Bill for People Who Receive FTB A or B & Resident in NSW

      How do we know if we are FTB A or FTB B ?

      And same question asked previously, do we need to apply for this or we just need to await for mail in our mailbox?

      • +4

        How do we know if we are FTB A or FTB B ?

        The easiest way of knowing is because you get a FTB A or FTB B payment each month.

        It's not hard :-D

  • +1

    Free Money!! only for households that have the highest earner to be less than @$150k (FTB B).

    • +1

      AND


      If the primary earner’s income is at or below this limit, Family Tax Benefit Part B will be assessed on the basis of the second earner’s income. Secondary earners can earn up to $5,183 each year before it affects the rate of Family Tax Benefit Part B.

      Payments are reduced by 20 cents for each dollar of income earned over $5,183.

      If you are the secondary earner and your partner earns $150,000 or less, you can still get some Family Tax Benefit Part B if your income is below:

      $26,390 a year, if your youngest child is under 5 years of age, or
      $20,532 a year, if your youngest child is 5–18 years of age
      

      So if it happens that the second income is higher then 25'915, it really doen't matter how many kids you have, you get NOTHIN'

      Max payments: 4,171.95 reduced 20cts per 1$ earned above 5,183 = 26042

      Better then in the good old Soviet Union.

      The less you earn (and work) the more you get. I love this country !

      • +2

        Dont forget.. These are the tax payers money.. (our money)… Why do we have to give it to people who do not want to work. People do not work deliberately in order to get these payments. If everyone starts sitting at home, and live on money the govt dashes out, this country will go bankrupt.

        Equality is good. but only in a certain ways.. I'd rather give it to a guy who works his butt off and still doesnot earn enough to feed his famly rather than these so called voluntary unemployed idiots.

        Again.. that is my point of view.. I dont know how you guys feel…!!

        • +1

          This isn't equality, it's middle class welfare.

          This country isn't about equality. It's about getting in power and staying in power, no matter how hair brained the scheme.

          Who has the political will to rightly bring it to an end?

        • mate. that doesnot mean we should pamper such leechers who don't earn money just because that at the end of the day the govt will feed his stomach and will sponsor him for his daily booze quota..!!!

        • Everyone agrees that lazy people shouldn't get ahead, but you're living in a Murdoch-sweetened fairy land if you think the dole is enough money to discourage hard work from otherwise able-bodied people. Go look up how much Newstart allowance is.

        • -4

          You dont get it.. It is a given rule… an lazy ass would sit and earn rather than work and earn even if he earns a bit more if he works.

          And ofocurse.. dole is not enough if u want to get takeaways everyday and want to go out for movies 2 times a day every day.

          but ofcourse we know what people do with dole money.. its enough to buy cheap booze everyday and drink all night (and ofcourse… icingon the cake - not have to work the whole life)..

          Correction to your statement. - its not murdoch sweetened land. Its tax payers sweetend land(a land where we earn money for lazy a**holes

        • +3

          "We know". How do you know? My guess is from the moronic "current affairs" shows on commercial TV which feed your prejudices. Every (western) society has its share of lazy and dishonest citizens (although the dishonesty at the bottom is nowhere near the dishonesty at the top level, as the NSW mining lease enquiry has shown) but there are plenty of well-qualified people out there desperate to get a decent job commensurate with their abilities and qualifications. I gave a job to an honours degreed taxi driver once. Fabulous employee, now working in a high paid OS job.

        • +1

          Totally agree with you, atitshah87.

          Most of the bums I have seen in this country are definitely on dole. You do not need a dissection of "We know" to state that as soon as they get dole money from Centerlink, most head out to a booze shop. For a person to survive, consumption of alcohol is not essential - rather, it is detrimental; meaning the tax payers again have to chip in to take care of the lazy bugger's liver because each day of its worthless existence, it was soaked in alcohol obtained out of tax payer's payments and appeasing government policies.

          While it may be okay for a person temporarily unable to find source of income to be on Centerlink payments, or for a permanently disabled person to be on the support, I disagree with it being 'okay' for an able bodied bum who shirks work and is able to do so because government is providing an 'incentive' to do so. Again, instead of making the best use of the cash for SURVIVAL, instead of trying to make savings from it, there are demands to increase dole payments. How stupid is that?

        • +1

          About $ 500 per fortnight should more than suffice if you cut the extravagance and use the money towards 'survival' rather than for 'comfort'.

          You could look for shared accommodation.
          You could buy groceries on specials.
          You could cook your own food instead of buying prepared one.
          You could stop visiting cinemas and other entertainment venues.
          You can abstain from alcohol and smoke.

          You could follow OZBargain to save you a lot of money.

          I say you can make SAVINGS out of $ 250 per week if you try.

        • +1

          You do understand the MAXIMUM rate of newstart is $497 per fortnight right ? Even if all the stars align and you do everything you've mentioned you'd be lucky.

        • mate. do u want a beachside house with tax-payers money?? cmon.. just be happy with whatever you get..(not blaming on you but on those who live on dole)…

          If someone gives you free money, do you whinge that its not enough.. this is free money too.. just take it and be greatful to the tax payers.

        • You do understand the MAXIMUM rate of newstart is $497 per fortnight right ?

          I totally understand. From personal experience, I can safely state that I lived on $ 200 PW for a considerable time while I was without main employment. My Ego did not let me go and ask for Centerlink support, so I lived off my savings that were supplemented by income from a 6 hours per week job.

          Stars do not have to align to save money, you just have to be frugal and research on cost effective solutions that suit you. If a diet of meat costs you too much, go veggie - it costs about 40 % lesser, nutritionally equivalent, palatably acceptable, etc. Spend zero on paid entertainment. Follow THIS LINK for more ideas. In financial state of crisis, you have to make sacrifices that you would not have to while you are on a six digit salary.

          You can still live a decent life with $ 200 PW and a little 'comfortable' life with $ 250 PW.

        • lol, $200 week gets you a lounge room floor in sydney. leaving you $50 a week to feed yourself and search for work. it's doable but if you think there are people living it up and saving money you are way out of touch.

      • Ah, dude, isn't that the POINT of low income assistance? To provide support to people earning LESS money, not those on more than $150000 a year?

  • i got eighty or so $ last fin. year.not sure if i need to reapply this year

    • +2

      Yes, you will need to apply for it this year too.

  • "You need to have received your Family Tax Benefit reconciliation statement for the 2012-2013 financial year to be eligible for the 2013-2014 Family Energy Rebate."

    Would this imply you need to have lodged a tax return, if you are a lump sum FT B recipient?

    • Would this imply you need to have lodged a tax return, if you are a lump sum FT B recipient?

      AND

      you have to have received the FTB payment as well

  • -6

    I absolutely HATE the Means test on such rebates.

    Those on highest incomes pay the most tax, yet receive nothing from the gov.

    • +3

      Those on highest incomes pay the most tax

      That line is very ambiguous. Corrected, it should read:

      Those on highest incomes pay the tax according to their tax bracket, like everyone else in this country.

      • You seem to understand the term Tax Bracket sans the understanding of the percentages behind each.

      • +1

        LOL. You're all wrong. The highest income earners can afford to pay an accountant so they pay the least amount of tax. ;-p

        • -1

          I would like to believe this, considering that I am far from being rich. However, I read an article that said that in Ameritopia, the top 1% of income earners pays more income tax than the bottom 60%. The tea party likes to point out that bottom half of society takes more than they give. People who take more than they give always vote Labour/democrat/Green/socialist - it is in their interest to support whoever is offering the most handouts and benefits.

        • Considering in the past the bottom 60% use to pay no tax

          In most western countries we've progressively moved towards a flatter tax system.

          This pushes society towards a class system, something that we do want to go towards.

          Studies have shown the smaller the gap between poor and rich the better well being a nation is, less crime, people are happier.

          My only real issue with socialism, is that we have not developed a way to deal with the 'refuse' of society.

          Evolution took us to where we are, we're headed towards devolution with our no one left behind mentality. At the same time we don't want to deal with the homeless situation/mentality the yanks have.

    • +2

      Yeh, far better that those who have no need of government assistance are on the government teat. We should pay the aged pension to everyone, including multimillionaires. I expect you'll be down at the soup kitchens looking for a free meal next. Why do you think we have a growing federal deficit? Revenues have shrunk but the same middle and upper class entitlements remain. Be thankful you have good health, a good education, probably a very comfortable upbringing, and a good job because plenty of others don't have such luxuries, and it's not for want of effort or trying. If we had a spill/fill of jobs across the country there's a fair chance of lot of people would find themselves looking for alternatives and assistance.

      • +1

        The reason we have a budget deficit is because of WELFARE.

        Our Income Tax Intake is $175.4B

        Welfare spend is $138.1B….most of this is NOT upper class entitlements.

        http://www.budget.gov.au/2013-14/content/overview/html/overv…

        Please consider that Health is 64.6B, Education is $29.7B and Defence is $22B, totalling $116.3.

        So the government spends more on HAND OUTS than educating our children, keeping us healthy and defending our Country.

        • -1

          It's obvious that you don't have the faintest idea about the "welfare" budget. A common enough mistake, but inexcusable if you're offering an opinion such as yours. Better go and have a good long look at everything which is included in those figures. "Welfare" is a very large umbrella in budgetary terms. You'll find you're in there somewhere or certainly you have been in the past. If you think the middle and upper classes aren't well treated you need to do a lot more reading about tax concessions, tax minimisation, private health rebates and superannuation concessions just for starters.

          Here's a couple if articles to kick you off, after you've done your homework on what the welfare budget includes:
          http://www.smh.com.au/business/inequity-of-super-generosity-…
          http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-means-test-its-just-not-t…

        • +1

          tax minimisation

          Deductions are Welfare now?

          private health rebates

          This is considered Welfare as well?

          superannuation concessions

          Being taxed at 15% is Welfare too? Not to mention the caps for Concessional conts have dropped again and again…ALWAYS targetting the top of town.

        • -1

          The fact that politicians don't have the guts to reduce "entitlements" and existing legislation isn't sufficiently robust to stop rorting at the top end of the spectrum doesn't change the fact that these things are middle and upper class welfare. There are plenty of examples where people with very large assets AND income actually pay no tax, yet they use all the same facilities and access the same benefits as poorly paid workers who are flat out making ends meet, let alone getting ahead. Found out about the welfare budget yet?

        • +2

          Errr….Politicians HAVE been reducing entitlements, and mostly aimed at the top.

          Health Care rebate.
          Super Co-conts used to apply to a wider group of workers.
          Concessional caps reduced.

          There are plenty of examples where people with very large assets AND income actually pay no tax, yet they use all the same facilities and access the same benefits as poorly paid workers.

          Taxes are paid on TAXABLE income, if they had TAXABLE income they'd pay tax.

          I am sorry I have to explain this to someone who believes they are well versed in matters financial.

        • You don't need to explain anything pal but you're right to apologise - for your ignorance of what our welfare budget entails. You DO need to have a little think about how it is that people with massive assets and even income can arrive at a zero tax position, and why that is both illogical and grossly unfair in many cases. Politicians have tinkered with a very few concessions but if you think they've done any more than scratch the surface of tax avoidance (legal or otherwise) and profligate concessions then you're either very badly informed, or naive, or more likely - both.

    • Oh right, I forgot how rich people don't drive on roads, go to public and private schools, and how the police and defence force only protect poor people.

  • Thanks for posting this

  • Does the applicant's name have to be the householder's name?

    • The main applicant has to be the one registered for the FBT payments and also the primary energy account holder.
      I'm aware that Origin Energy and AGL only match on the main account holder name and advise customers to close existing accounts and re-open under the partner's name, in order to get a match.

      Stupid, but necessary. Unless you go to the Ombudsman.

      • +1

        Agree, stupid. AGL is in my name, CRN is in missus name = rejection.

        AGL told me best option is to put the missus name in the c/o part of the address on their system - they said that works OK.

      • Agree too f$%$%kin stupid. Account in my name, FBT in missus. Such a complicated process.

    • I wondered that too - I share payment of a bill with others, so my name's not on the bill but I am registered in all sorts of ways as living at my address.

      EDIT - FROM SITE
      "IMPORTANT: If you receive Family Tax Benefit A or B and your name is not on the electricity bill, you cannot receive the NSW Family Energy Rebate. Contact your electricity retailer and have your name, as it appears on Family Tax Benefit documentation, added to the electricity account before you complete the application form."

  • I applied for this last year but did not get the full rebate because I was also eligible of the low income household rebate. Last year it was capped so I got $215 in my usual rebate and only $35 more for the family energy rebate. Not much considering the paper work. This year it is again capped at $250 with low income household at $225 so I will only get an additional $25 from applying

    • +2

      "considering the paperwork"
      dafuq? It takes all of 2 minutes to fill out the web form.

  • Awesome. However I didn't apply last year, can I still apply for it?

    • -1

      Yes, you can. However, you will only get the rebate for this year. You can no longer apply for last year's rebate.

  • I can also confirm that GST is also applicable to this rebate.
    So in actual fact, for previous year, you'd get $75 + $7.5(10%) = $82.50
    And for current year you should get $125 + $12.5 = $137.50

  • We urgently need rebates here in Queensland. The avaricious governments seem to increase electricty, water and rates by 20% each year. Us folk on indexed incomes just get poorer every year.

    • +1

      Stuff QLD.. isn't winning state of origin enough, now you want more? LOL
      J/K
      I think everyone needs a rebate

  • No wonder this country is in so much debt, the people who contribute the least always have their hands out looking for another free ride. Here's a tip if you can't afford kids don't have them but don't burden everyone else. If you can't afford to live get a better paying job, retrain, work hard like others. I look forward to being voted down… see how many people on here are offended by this post, the ones who vote me down will be the ones I'm referring too.

    • The trouble with your comment is, you can't cover all the exceptions. (Assuming there are any in your book.)

      e.g.

      1. A women in a wheelchair with a broken spine can't work, or hardly breath for that matter. Your comments suggest she doesn't deserve a discount on bills that continuously rise, when her disability pension rarely does.

      2. Guy dying of cancer, he and wife sell their house, cars, everything they own to pay for medication. With days left to live wife presses him to visit a sperm bank because she wants his children. They obviously can't afford kids right now. But taking your comments at face value, she shouldn't have any to her husband in case she qualifies for some rebate down the line.

      The elderly, infirm, unemployed - are always scapegoats of government vermin who are the REAL bludgers and leeches on Australian society. They demonise them, while at the same time stuffing money in their hand behind your back.

      What am I talking about? I've been helping my kids with school projects lately. The Sydney Harbour Bridge cost ten times what the government estimated and allowed for. It was supposed to be a contract. No one honoured, or made anyone honour it. They blamed it all on the depression. But then the same thing happened with the Sydney Opera House - by the same amount! Government underestimates by a factor of TEN. It's a pattern that shows up again and again.

      Besides, these people are not "holding their hand out"
      . It's the government that chooses to steal person 1's money and then stuff it in the hand of person #2 instead. Person #2 would be pretty stupid not to take free money.

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