[Refurb] Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny PC i5-6500T 16GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 10 Pro $133 Delivered @ UN Tech

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[Refurb] Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny PC i5-6500T 16GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 10 Pro $133 Delivered @ UN Tech

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Make & Model - Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q

Form Factor - Mini PC

Processor - Intel Core i5 6th Gen, 6500T 2.50GHz Processor

RAM - 16 GB

Storage - 256GB

Storage Type - SSD (Solid State Drive)

I/o Ports - 6 USB Gen 3.1, 2 x Display Port, Ethernet, one headphone / microphone combo jack

Features - Built-in Speakers

Connectivity - WiFi USB, Ethernet

Operating System - Windows 10 Pro

Just got one - I'm planning on using it as a Retro gaming setup with Batocera.linux. These are powerful little machines that are far more powerful than any Raspberry Pi, and very tiny.

If you want to pair with a TV, this only comes with 2x DP ports, so need to add something like this: https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B08DKGDDFQ/ref=ppx_yo_d…

EDIT: If anyone is interested to grabbing one for the same reason I am (retro couch gaming with a tv), here is a great guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfHAFyjby0 - he actually recommends these micro / mini PCs are the perfect machine for this exact situation.

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pformag on 16/06/2023 - 09:36

Can this be slotted into the monitors from Lenovo?
- cycloneaussie on 16/06/2023 - 09:51
  
  Mounts at the back, needs a vesa bracket.
- Rushy on 16/06/2023 - 09:58
  
  +3
  
  My workplace has these, if you mean the Tiny in one monitors that have the cage for them at the back, like these: https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/dc/accessories-and-software/mon…
  
  Then yes they just slide into it
  - Chazzozz on 16/06/2023 - 13:16
    
    You can also buy a couple of different clamp brackets to retrofit selected monitors, too. You can also get a power supply mount, too, which helps keep the PSU tidily out of the way.
wildstone on 16/06/2023 - 09:55

What is the maximum resolution output for the 2 display ports? Can they do 144hz 4k?
- freefall101 on 16/06/2023 - 10:11
  
  No, 60hz - https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkCentre/ThinkCe…
- Pest85 on 16/06/2023 - 10:54
  
  im currently using it with 1 4k and 1 2k monitor.
  60Hz. No issues whatsoever.
  Pretty much silent - no fan noise at all, using it a thin client to VPN & RDP.
- Nom on 17/06/2023 - 23:20
  
  Can they do 144hz 4k?
  
  There's zero gaming ability in one of these - you don't need 144Hz for the Windows desktop👍
maverace on 16/06/2023 - 10:03

+1

Would these be great little Plex servers? A little new and trying to figure out what are the most bang for buck configuration to run Plex.
- orangecarpet-22 on 16/06/2023 - 10:06
  
  +11
  
  7th gen Intel is the sweet spot, due to Intel QuickSync abilities (HEVC 10 bit transcoding in HW added over the 6th) - useful for transcoding in hardware (requires Plex Pass). These seem to have gone up in price, but you can get them for ~$150 on eBay at the moment with eBay Plus.
  - maverace on 16/06/2023 - 10:08
    
    Many thanks! Real helpful. Seeing a bunch of these mini pc popping up. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the right configuration.
  - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 10:16
    
    orange, I think you are mistaken, this CPU does support QuickSync.
    Always put the CPU version on Google and check the Intel link with its description.
    
    maverace, you should be should be just fine, hopping the aussie version isn't messed up, it should support both NVMe and SSD and up to 32GB.
    
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/88183/i…
    - skittlebrau on 16/06/2023 - 10:20
      
      +7
      
      He’s not saying it doesn’t support Intel Quick Sync, he’s saying 6th Gen doesn’t support HEVC 10bit encode/decode which means if you want to transcode HEVC HDR content (4K TV rips and 4K Blu-ray) then 7th Gen is a better choice.
      - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 10:21
        
        +1
        
        @skittlebrau: Got ya, thanks for the heads up.
    - orangecarpet-22 on 16/06/2023 - 10:22
      
      +3
      
      It does support QuickSync, as it's been around forever.
      
      The functionality differs across generations, which is why I called out the improvement over the 6th gen, being HEVC 10 bit.
      
      See the table on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video
      
      IMHO for another $20 the 7th gen makes sense - there's plenty of HEVC 10 bit 4K content and your 7th gen will do ~2-3 4K transcodes in hardware simultaneously. The 6th gen won't be able to transcode these as it isn't fast enough without the hw capability to do HEVC 10 bit.
      - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 10:23
        
        +1
        
        @orangecarpet-22: Thanks for that, I didn't know this QuickSync stuff, I am using them more for network stuff than video stuff. Will keep that in mind for future reference.
      - No on 16/06/2023 - 10:59
        
        +1
        
        @orangecarpet-22: Hey, can you link to the 7th gen you are looking at?
        
        Much appreciated!
  - wildstone on 16/06/2023 - 10:20
    
    If you don't have Plex Pass, does it matter then?
    - orangecarpet-22 on 16/06/2023 - 10:23
      
      It won't matter, as hw transcoding is a feature of Plex Pass only. But if you wanted to purchase Plex Pass later or perhaps try an alternative such as Emby.
    - FostWare on 17/06/2023 - 15:15
      
      Put a subscription on the Plex store? https://www.ozbargain.com.au/deals/plex.tv
  - Grazz989 on 17/06/2023 - 22:19
    
    Why ARE there loads of mini PCs popping up lately?
    - Lukian on 21/06/2023 - 15:36
      
      +1
      
      End of financial year
ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 10:07

+3

Noice. Man, thin clients are starting to become a plague here haha
Voron 3D printer, Home Assistant, my router with DNS and VPN, all running from thin clients.
I guess I will be getting a few more haha

Quad core and in case Aussies didn't get bad version, it seems to have a M.2 2280 slot, the regular SSD, that is solid and It appears to support up to 32GB.

Thanks OP, got 2 haha and hoping all the above is true with the Aussie version.
- CoronavirusVaccine on 16/06/2023 - 10:22
  
  +4
  
  Router, DNS ad-blocker, VPN, Home Assistant, Plex, etc can all be run on one single box on top of a hypervisor. Just have to add RAM - and save electricity cost. Other than the router functioning which makes sense to be on a separate device so you can shutdown the hypervisor without bringing down the network for other users.
  - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 10:29
    
    -2
    
    Yeah nahh, the box fails and since you are running everything from a single box, you are screwed.
    With exception of the printer, I have Proxmox running on them so I can have snapshot feature to rollback the VMs status in case things went sideways.
    I made a network change on my OPNSense Firewall and Proxmox made it simple to rollback things.
    
    Home Assistant has its own little box but I will set on this one instead, Google Coral Board runs on NVMe IIRC, I believe they have released an USB version but I don't like dongles, and etc.
    The power consumption by these box are very small.
    - bargaino on 16/06/2023 - 10:50
      
      +5
      
      the box fails and since you are running everything from a single box, you are screwed.
      
      How so? What does it matter if such services fail separately or all at once in a home environment?
      More PCs means failures more often.
      A VM is typically much easier to move to new hardware in the event of failure.
      
      Just have to add RAM
      
      16GB is already more than enough to run a few VMs with those services. They are all lightweight.
      - uccoffee on 16/06/2023 - 11:46
        
        @bargaino: using it to run server 19 VM , very happy, just a bit slow if I need GUI
        
        bargaino on 16/06/2023 - 12:00
        
        @uccoffee: What's a good hypervisor for home?
        I'm just using VirtualBox on Ubuntu, not ideal.
        
        ouranos on 16/06/2023 - 12:16
        
        +1
        
        @bargaino: Proxmox VE
        
        krouton24 on 16/06/2023 - 12:46
        
        @bargaino: Then head here - https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/
        
        Very handy scripts
      - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 12:24
        
        +2
        
        @bargaino: It matters everything to me at least haha
        Having a single box running network stuff and non essential stuff is just madness imo.
        This is personal preference I guess.
        I have everything managed via Ansible and Terraform anyway, so I can easily bring the whole environment up like nothing happened.
        Pi-Hole + Unbound + WireGuard, a single playbook and the whole environment is up and running.
        
        If I had to replace or do anything with the network box (router, DNS, VPN), I don't need to worry about anything else.
        HAOS has its own little box running from Proxmox so I can snapshot the VM before messing around, I will use its box only for HA stuff.
        
        Non essential stuff runs from a Dell SFF Kubernetes cluster which again, if the box dies, I can bring everything up with Terraform.
        Their power consumption has not changed my bill, but again, It is just personal preference.
        
        Grazz989 on 17/06/2023 - 22:27
        
        @ratoloko: It's madness to run everything off one box if you're a business or you're managing someone else's network professionally or whatever … But it's fine for a home where having 30 mins downtime isn't the end of the world.
        
        But realistically more boxes = more hassle and more shit to break. I can understand having a backup box, because cloning a backup image onto that sounds way quicker and easier than having two boxes with different functions and having to migrate functions from the dead box to the live one.
    - CoronavirusVaccine on 16/06/2023 - 10:50
      
      +1
      
      Sounds great!
      
      Can you share what you do with the Coral board? I don't have one but have always been quite curious.
      - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 18:40
        
        @CoronavirusVaccine: I don't have it yet.
        My colleague has one with his Home Assistant, its system can turn on the light if the surveillance camera detects a "human" instead of the usual prehistoric movement sensor that would turn the light on for any movement including his cat.
        
        This is just one example of what you can do.
        
        CoronavirusVaccine on 19/06/2023 - 19:48
        
        @ratoloko: Previously I tried an object detection software called DOODS in home assistant without hardware acceleration and my CPU utilisation was too high for my liking. I just gave up.
        
        Is it possible/practicle to do object detection with just the CPU without hardware acceleration?
    - Chandler on 16/06/2023 - 23:04
      
      +1
      
      Yeah nahh, the box fails and since you are running everything from a single box, you are screwed.
      
      In case you haven't really looked, you can use Proxmox in a cluster, which helps reduce this single point of failure issue (just make sure you don't get issues with quorum). This is what I ultimately intend to build out at home - a Proxmox cluster running various services. Have a look at ServeTheHome's TinyMiniMicro project.
      
      I'm currently running Home Assistant (HA OS in a VM), Pi-Hole (LXC CT) and UniFi Controller (LXC CT) on a mini desktop via Proxmox. Not sure on next priority but looking to add more services; will probably spin up another full VM as a Docker host. Will probably need to add more RAM soon (currently @ ~50% used), and need to address storage (currently only has a ~256GB SSD in it) especially when I start using it for media (Jellyfin).
      
      Google Coral Board runs on NVMe IIRC
      
      A lot of these desktop minis have NVMe slots - you can even get some that have 2 x NVMe slots.
      - CoronavirusVaccine on 19/06/2023 - 19:39
        
        @Chandler: Looks like there is a USB version of Coral in case m.2 slot is not available
        
        https://coral.ai/products/accelerator/
Bargains4days on 16/06/2023 - 10:15

+1

Is this the model where you can add in a secondary NIC?
- zerochill on 16/06/2023 - 11:21
  
  I think 710q doesnt have the pcie slot, I am not sure happy to be corrected
  - JohnB100 on 16/06/2023 - 17:27
    
    +1
    
    Correct. That's the m720q
Raj09 on 16/06/2023 - 10:19

+2

Great one.. I didn't think of a retro game setup with these. Any chance you can share a YouTube or walk through of how to do it? Thanks
- skittlebrau on 16/06/2023 - 10:22
  
  Look into YouTube guides on how to set up Batocera
- boomramada on 16/06/2023 - 10:23
  
  Use google or YouTube search?
- theantipop on 16/06/2023 - 10:25
  
  +3
  
  Here you are mate:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUfHAFyjby0
  
  This was the initial reason for me searching for these micro PCs. The guy who walks you through it actually recommends something exactly like this PC. He gets great performance out of his.
  - Raj09 on 16/06/2023 - 11:24
    
    +2
    
    Beauty! Thank you mate 😊👍🏾
- Leho on 16/06/2023 - 11:05
  
  Any os with retroarch backend
krammis76 on 16/06/2023 - 10:24

Can this play 4k HDR files from a hard drive easily?
- DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 16/06/2023 - 10:38
  
  Very easily.
Leho on 16/06/2023 - 11:04

I love that homelabbing is becoming more mainstream with deals like this. Insane as a little server 🤩
OzHan on 16/06/2023 - 11:19

i5-6500T or step up to 7500T for homelabbing (mpd, docker kvm, python etc)?

7500T can be found for $156 on ebay.
- Cc2018 on 16/06/2023 - 21:26
  
  +1
  
  Can you share a link?
Ixionx on 16/06/2023 - 11:28

Worth running ESXi on one of these machines?
- jmadden91 on 16/06/2023 - 11:43
  
  +4
  
  I'd go proxmox instead mate
  - ratoloko on 16/06/2023 - 12:14
    
    +1
    
    Proxmox is such a dream no bs involved.
- dav3 on 16/06/2023 - 11:45
  
  +1
  
  Depends on what you're doing, I've got an old i3 NUC and i5 Optiplex running a couple of things and they do ok.
  
  ESXi seems problematic these days, I'm thinking of moving to Proxmox
  - Ixionx on 16/06/2023 - 11:54
    
    I've only ever had experience with ESXi, but based on the comment above/below I'm thinking of giving proxmox a go myself.
    Nothing too heavy for it to run, Homebridge, Torrents, Scrypted and maybe a few other things.
    - noisymime on 16/06/2023 - 12:06
      
      +1
      
      Seriously consider just moving to Docker containers for things like this rather than VMs (Assuming that's what you're running with ESXi). It's much more lightweight and honestly easier to manage once you get comfortable with them.
- zerochill on 16/06/2023 - 11:48
  
  +2
  
  i ran a proxmox instance on a similar spec, really it depends on your usage, and requirements, i ran small little services at home like torrent, jellyfin, VMs, no serious cpu load, on 24/7 and thus i need a low power device, between 20-30W, if you really want to push it look for one with extra pcie slot, so you run other services like router/FW. I think the main usage for these homelab box is Low Power and not doing things like AI training or something
- davlloyd on 17/06/2023 - 07:44
  
  Latest release of ESXi won’t support this pc. Better off with 8th gen box such as the Dell Optiplex 7060 micro which can be had for about $250 with eBay codes.
- Woodyg22 on 11/07/2023 - 15:30
  
  I have some experience with ESXi but tried Proxmox for this and was surprised at how easy it was. Not necessarily easier but seems to work well
Oz80085 on 16/06/2023 - 13:36

Bought one for retro gaming. Cheers OP
Bii on 16/06/2023 - 14:01

What sites are good for getting Roms these days
- Oz80085 on 16/06/2023 - 16:48
  
  Vimms lair
- Leho on 18/06/2023 - 14:23
  
  +1
  
  Archive.org, search “’console’ + redump”
dalebobermien on 16/06/2023 - 14:16

Would this be suitable to simply RDP into a work server to WFH? Thinking about getting it for the wife if so and can run 2x monitors
- theantipop on 16/06/2023 - 14:25
  
  100% - these are powerful little PCs. can always upgrade the ram to 16gb, and get a cheap ssd down the track to add more storage. But USB 3.1 ports allow for some speedy external harddrives as well.
  - Mechz on 16/06/2023 - 14:39
    
    +1
    
    All great but overkill for an RDP box. These will do the job as-is with no hassles.
  - Bii on 16/06/2023 - 14:55
    
    Do you mean upgrade to 32gb as this one is 16gb already
    - theantipop on 16/06/2023 - 15:13
      
      You can option 16gb, but the $133 deal is only 8gb.
      - Bii on 16/06/2023 - 15:21
        
        +1
        
        @theantipop: no it's 16gb in the title for $133 and also on the site, only one option to choose from which is 16gb
        
        theantipop on 16/06/2023 - 16:40
        
        +2
        
        @Bii: You’re exactly right, and I posted the deal! I genuinely thought it was 8gb. 16gb should be completely fine then. Happy day.
L0zBargain on 16/06/2023 - 15:43

+1

Mine's working a treat from the last sale. I just had to buy a DP to DVI cable as I don't have any DP monitors…
- Mechz on 16/06/2023 - 20:22
  
  Hot damn they must be getting on in years now.
  - L0zBargain on 17/06/2023 - 16:49
    
    Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without 😝
    
    Unofficial OzBargain motto? 😁
smr23 on 16/06/2023 - 21:46

Perfect I’ve been looking for something like this that I can use to emulate PS3 and Xbox 360 games🤩

Much more powerful than the pi
ozbnb on 16/06/2023 - 23:17

Dude this is great deal. Even cheaper than buying parts separately.

Got 2 as well as 2 16gb mem to make a PVE HA with my gen10plus
Oofy Doofy on 17/06/2023 - 00:02

Does anyone have a 6500T, 6600T or 6700T lying around at home that I could purchase?
manity on 17/06/2023 - 00:02

Is the boot drive on these a M2 SSD or a 2.5 SSD ?
krammis76 on 17/06/2023 - 09:21

Just purchased one. Now someone tell me why I did. And what I’m going to do with it!?! :)
- amoretpax199 on 17/06/2023 - 15:06
  
  +1
  
  Bacetora.
  - krammis76 on 17/06/2023 - 22:32
    
    +1
    
    I was thinking that actually. Hopefully i can keep windows on it so i can play downloaded 4k movies from a hard drive. But install Bacetora on a bootable ssd hard drive and game off that.
FostWare on 17/06/2023 - 15:11

Would it kill them to include pics of the back of these units?
- Mechz on 17/06/2023 - 18:27
  
  3 seconds of duck duck go
  
  https://www.itresale.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/IMG_12…
  - bargaino on 17/06/2023 - 18:52
    
    3 seconds x 3000 click-throughs = 2.5 hours. And that's just from here. Can you see FostWare's point that seller should have done it?
    Most do, as its important, shows the ports available.
    - Mechz on 17/06/2023 - 19:11
      
      It tells you in the description too.
      
      I/o Ports - 6 USB Gen 3.1, 2 x Display Port, Ethernet, one headphone / microphone combo jack
reptile4444 on 17/06/2023 - 22:52

can i use a bluetooth keyboard with this tiny pc? or do i have to buy a BT keyboard/mouse combo that comes with a bluetooth dongle like logitechs ?
- Mechz on 17/06/2023 - 23:46
  
  You'll need a dongle.
  - dav3 on 18/06/2023 - 02:26
    
    Or a compatible M2 card
Loopholio on 18/06/2023 - 12:55

FINE! I've ordered one. I don't know what I'm going to do with it, but it's a fantastic deal!
- amoretpax199 on 18/06/2023 - 12:58
  
  +2
  
  Use it for retro gaming!
moe s on 18/06/2023 - 23:11

Can these be upgraded to Windows 11 later on ? e.g. when Microsoft eventually stop support for Windows 10.
- Franck P on 19/06/2023 - 12:23
  
  Yes you can install Windows 11 on these machines
krammis76 on 19/06/2023 - 20:42

Anyone get a shipping notification yet on one?
- amoretpax199 on 19/06/2023 - 21:48
  
  I did.
  - krammis76 on 20/06/2023 - 07:10
    
    Still waiting on mine. Hoping i'll get my notification today. :)
    - p858snake on 24/06/2023 - 17:58
      
      I had to email them on the 21st to check something (I've had multiple AusPost tracking emails and trying track down who was who), Mine is apparently still there unshipped, Although I did change the HDD size on my order.
- theantipop on 20/06/2023 - 08:51
  
  Got mine yesterday - it's enroute already. ETA Friday (heading to SEQ).
- Loopholio on 20/06/2023 - 17:36
  
  Not yet.
kehuau on 20/06/2023 - 17:26

Haven't got a shipping notification yet. Based in Syd.
OZzieME on 21/06/2023 - 11:03

Just arrived … now to figure out why I bought it 🤔

This was posted 11 months 17 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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