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[eBay Plus] Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC 8GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $467.22 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Good point, completely slipped my mind that refresh, noted.
any idea if its got hdmi 2.1?
Thankyou kind goonsack
Heads up that the 6700XT with 12GB VRAM is $460 + delivery, with RE4. 3060Ti isn't really powerful enough for effective RTX use and 6700XT is on par if not marginally faster in rasterisation, though DLSS is better than FSR.
It's absolutely the better option for some people no doubt. I posted this deal largely for the sake of variety. With my personal use case I'd slightly favor the 3060 ti for DLSS and driver support
From what I seen and heard from reviews
DLSS is crap for lower end cards to render at 1080p
There will artefacts and poor visual qualityand the 3060 is targeted for 1080p gaming
RTX 3060 Ti is faster than 2080 super. Its a monster
3060Ti isn't really powerful enough for effective RTX use
It's powerful enough for RTX for me, i play visually rich story/adventure games, the ones where RTX actually makes a noticeable difference, and 240 FPS doesn't, and my projector is 1080p.
I keep seeing the "RTX is useless in mid-range anyway" argument in favour of AMD, and they have a point if you want 4k, but these cards are more than powerful enough for RTX at 1080p, and sometimes 1440p, at 60FPS (which is really all you need for the single player story games with great visuals that RTX matters in).
What games are you playing with RTX? I have 3060Ti and literally can't tell the difference visually in cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p. But I certainly could tell when my FPS halved.
It is of course subjective.
While technically capable, the advertising RTX for the lower end GPUs seems disingenuous. Enabling RTX takes a big toll on the GPU which greatly reduces the fps, it uses up more VRAM, and uses up more CPU resources. So games offer lower quality raytracing settings and then it no longer appears that much better than rasterisation, but still gives a penalty. It maybe something you are willing to accept, that is fine, but people should be made aware before purchasing to temper expectations. Also to be aware that VRAM is important too. At 1080p / 60fps with DLSS I bet most games will run RTX features well on your projector if you don't care about a locked fps.
I will prefer stable fps over visuals and really like Freesync. I will set graphically settings so the game won't ever drop below 45fps during big explosions and typically runs around my screen refresh rate 73hz (Ultra wide 1440p). That makes games feel some much better to play for me. If I had a higher refresh rate monitor, I'd probably try to average around 90fps if I could before pushing visuals up.
isn't DLSS looks crap when render at 1080p
and there will be visual artefacts?Yes, but DLSS isn't RTX.
And DLSS isn't for 1080p. The whole point is more FPS at higher res like 1440p and 4k. No need to turn DLSS on at 1080p, since the performance is fine without it.
you want DLSS to game at 4k. Usable in 1440p too. at 1080p it's not worth it
@shabaka: problem is a 3060/TI is consider entry level GPU
don't know how well DLSS would improve 4K performance on entry level GPU@pinkybrain: 3060 Ti is a lower mid range, it's same chip as 3070 just a bit restricted. you'll see good performance in 1440p using DLSS in supported games
@shabaka: the keyword is supported games..
From what I seen of the 4060 Ti reviews
it said to be only slightly better than 3060Ti
nvidia sells the DLSS feature as indicator of it being much more increase in performance
but that is ridicule by reviewers as not good enough for higher price increase.
and not every all games with that this support.And DLSS still has artefacts and quirks no matter what resolution.
So don't think DLSS should be a deciding factor
@pinkybrain: 4060 Ti is a different story, there's DLSS 3 that is only for the new generation of cards (40x0)
DLSS and DLSS 2 are applicable to all RTS cards, and they make a huge difference, and are supported in a loooot of great AAA games (where it's really needed) here's one list
there are more good lists, this is just the first Bing found (cat dragged in)
DLSS makes a big difference trust me
isn't DLSS looks crap when render at 1080p
The internal render resolution for a DLSS 1080p output are going to be tiny, depending on what preset you use, because of the scaling factors.
You'd be asking the card to extrapolate from tiny tiny resolutions depending on the preset. It's unlikely there would be sufficient data to generate a decent image from that.
Hang on , you play "visually rich story games" on a 1080p projector and reckon 60 FPS is all you need.
But you definitely want Ray Tracing !!Gotta say this don't make much sense mate.
are these the plummeting prices people talked about pre 4000 series?
This is the start, I guess?
prices are just as high if not higher
I just bought a used EVGA 3060 Ti for $350 rip. The price cliff is 1 year late.
I bought a Zotac 3060 Ti as well just a month ago lol
Just Comp Alliance burning stock before EOFYJacket Man will launch the 4060 non-Ti earlier than announced so the smart retailers are taking the hit now rather than sit on a double pile of 3060 and 4060 garbageRemaining cards for 2023: 4060 non-Ti, 4060 Ti 16GB, PS5 Pro/Series XX/RX 7700Cards that Jacket Man has up his sleeve that can be released anytime if AMD gets off their ass: 4080 Ti, 4090 TitanIt's a 3 year old gen. A better way to analyse the price is to see what the 4060ti costs (which should've been released 8 months ago). The xx60ti msrp was circa $530aud around release before crypto/inflation.
Obviously it's just starting (since they've been hovering around $600 for the past year). All depends if heaps of hodlers choose to buy them, if people aren't interested then prices will keep falling. The whole reason these dropped from $600 is due to the lower consumer demand.
People show less interest, companies drop prices to pickup interest again. Retailers & HW enthusiasts will try fomo tactics such as "only 5 available" and "runout sale for upcoming 4060ti stock". Lot of people tried to do this with the $399 xfx 6600xt deals throughout mid 2022. Attempting to scare people into thinking the deal is only due to the 6650xt aka their only opportunity. Except it wasn't limited remaining stock the 6600xt has still been shipped and sold ever since. Reality is gpu's are dropping across the board including the new gen models.
The 4060Ti is a bad joke. The 4060Ti AUD launch price is $650+ for the 8GB version, but it looks like it has already got price cuts in some places because of how crap it is.
4060Ti performs the same as a 3060Ti, if not slightly worse, but with better efficiency and DLSS 3. So comparing the $479 3060Ti versus the $650+ 4060Ti 8GB, is it worth $180+ for DLSS 3. No, so it seems the price cuts start right away.
JW Computers has a 4060Ti for $589, but it still a shit price for effectively the same performance as the 3 year old 3060Ti. So someone who buys that is spending $600+ on a new GPU that will already struggle to play modern games that need more than 8GB VRAM.
$479 3060Ti is still a crap price for older gen card
it should be $200+ by now..Unfortunately all the GPU prices are still jacked up
Is SLI still a thing. Can I SLI two of these and get more performance than my 1080ti ?
The only SLI capable 3000 card is 3090. And why would u SLI two 3060Ti, one of them is already more powerful than 1080ti which roughly equal to 3060. And the budget for two 3060Ti is enough for a new 4070 or 6900-6950XT.
Cool, thanks for your reply. I've been out of the loop before the prices went nuts. Doing further research now :)
Back in the day, as in 4-5 years ago, it was still viable to do SLI (even when support wasn't that great) because there was a huge price gap between the mid range and high range. Going any higher than say a 1060 or 480 would give diminishing returns in performance. Nowadays though, the higher end gives the best price/performance while the mid range is scalped to all hell giving the worst value. Therefore, you're better off grabbing a 4080 or 7900 XT if you want to spend $1k+ on a GPU rather than two mid range GPUs (even if SLI was possible).
No SLI is dead years ago.
- Technically some cards still support it for bespoke enterprise applications but realistically you wouldnt be asking if that was what you had planned.
Where was the king of cards the 1060 series price point all those years ago, are we reverting back to the normal times.
Not yet. GPUs are still about 1.5 to 2.5 times the price compared to historical trend line.
Big price drops after the crypto crash and next gen releases haven't really happened, instead prices have been falling gradually (with painful slowness, mostly due to new gen cards being too overpriced to affect old gen much).
If you're sick of holding, then last-gen cards, especially AMD, are miles better than at the worst of the GPU crisis, especially second hand.
But if you don't need to upgrade yet, then no rush. We'll see if the market normalises further.
3070 Asus dual is $545 (I posted it)
plus roughly 20% in raster, slightly stronger DLSS and RT (152/38 on 3060 Ti vs 184/46), wider bus
a better choice for people who bought 4k monitors recently 😋
IMO 3060 Ti -> 3070 is worth to consider with the current prices, 3070 -> 3070 Ti isn't
and I agree that 6700xt has similar to 3060 Ti performance, more VRAM for those who want to play those poor console ports on PCs, and comes with a new game
the things where team green is ahead is upscaling quality. recently went 2060 -> 6700 -> 6800 -> 3070 and DLSS is noticeably cleaner output compared to FSR or ASR. also, RT + DLSS is very much playable on 3070, not that I really care about those "true reflections", some people do.
anothe cool thing is GeForce Experience which gives you optimal settings to run any game you got installed, with ability to tweak suggestions. in some games it's way better than playing with in-game settings and yields enjoyable gameplay results
AMD doesn't have anything similar that is user friendly
I was running a 3070 at 4k and was surprised how much it struggled. Even older games like grim dawn at 60fps would run the gpu all the way to 100% load.
probs I am lucky with my choice of games
Control, Ghostrunner, Death Stranding, Division 1 and 2, Mordhau
no struggle in 4k, smooth gameplay with Dell G3223Q 4k monitor with G-Sync
oh, and I stand corrected, 3060 Ti and 3070 have same bus width: 256 bit.
that's like twice the bus width of 4060 Ti
6800 to 3070 is a HUGE downgrade.
how so? 6800 non xt.
about 10% raster difference from what I measured. plus you get DLSS
6800 was a good card, but coil whine.. maybe I was just unlucky with mine. noisy as
Wouldn't it be better to wait for the 4060 which will offer same or better performance for similar coin?
best bet at the moment is 3070 for $550. reason? with 3070 4k gaming is well within reach
NVIDIA is trying to take 4k gaming away in this price range with narrow bus in 4060 Ti
even though in raster 4060 Ti matches 3070 on paper, narrow bus kills it in 4k. also 8 lanes of PCIe as opposed to 16 on 3070
if 4060 is going to be anything like 4060 Ti, not interested
Why your 3070 deals got overlooked compared to this deal I'm not too sure. The latter deal you posted in particular is within margin of this deal.
probably because it is magically over half a $k and doesn't come with a free game 🎯
I got the KO model tho because I am an RGB sucker lol. my case is mesh on 3 sides, and it just shines through 😋
seriously though, for someone who is happy to settle for 1440p, 3060 Ti is a perfect card, if team green is your choice. if only it came with 12gb vram I am sure no one would have touched 6700xt
3070 is in deeper sh*t because of same 8gb VRAM as a 4k card. not the king of 4k (reserved for 3080 but even that has not a lot of vram).
so 3060 Ti has a better proposition overall fpr 1440p which it is
Your comment aged like milk. Sorry.
Why?
The 4060 released and performance is poor, it can't even beat the 3060 ti.
6700XT is substantially better than 3060Ti .
Your whole perception of performance is out of line with current numbers.not sure where you get the info, the difference in raster is like 2%, while 3060 Ti also has better upscaling tech
Tomshardware GPU chart .
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Its got tabs for 1080,1440 and 4k.
It's updated very reg.well, looking at it I just don't see what you're saying here.
"6700XT is substantially better than 3060Ti" while it sits just a bit above. is that "substantially better"?
"6800 to 3070 is a HUGE downgrade" and look at the same chart again. it's not huge.
also I am not a big fan of THW and their testing technique. They selected some games they thought were appropriate and tested them using some settings which I can't easily find details of. I trust TechPowerUp and their performance calculations, these are numbers that are not subjective. what the card is capable of is one thing, and how it performs in some game is another. What if I use different settings? what if I don't care about that game?
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-ti.c3… compare to 6700 XT under relative performance
Is GSYNC support worth for getting this instead of the 6700xt? Got an AW3418HW Gsync module monitor.
Ddr 6x, adds 10% (20w) power consumption but not much performance gain.
just get 3070 for $545 instead. real gainzz
I see they are also doing the RTX3060 for 22% off or 20% off for non-ebay plus, normal price $469, after 22% discount $365.82 or after 20% discount $375.20.
Link: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/175572465867?epid=24058214452&ha…
It's not worth it, that is the slower 8GB version that Ngreedia silently released , there was a full fat 12GB version for $399 last week but out of stock for now https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/781015 there will be deals like this again IMO around the 4060 launch.
Thanks. I'm keeping my eye on the 3060 and 3060ti. My cpu is the bottleneck and according to calculations the 3060ti would still have about 30% juice left…
This is also the GDDR6X refresh too, so a decent few percent faster than the vanilla 60ti.