[Kogan FIRST] Kogan Espresso Manual Coffee Machine $69.99 + Delivery (RRP $149) @ Kogan

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A youtuber's review of the product https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwpH4m7C97Y

Kick start each morning with a steaming cup of coffee and treat yourself to cafe-quality results each time with this easy-to-use espresso coffee machine.

Make espressos, drip coffee or latte and cappuccinos
Adjustable steam knob
High pressure frothing function
Milk steamer with steam wand attachment creates creamy froth
15 Bar pressure produces foam and prevents bitter tasting coffee
Built-in thermometer displays temperature
Detachable drip plate and tray
Dual stainless steel filter
Overheating and overpressure protection
1.2L Detachable water tank
Forget spending way too much money at coffee shops every day! With the Kogan Espresso Manual Coffee Machine, you’ll be brewing your very own barista-level coffee at home thanks to an advanced heating system and simple-to-use control panel.

Cafe-quality results, at home!

Whether it’s whipping up creamy cappuccinos, fresh espressos or bold drip coffee, this easy-to-use coffee machine delivers cafe-quality results with its advanced thermoblock system that quickly heats water to the perfect temperature and creates instant steam.

Steam wand attachment

Effortlessly create a rich and creamy froth for lattes and cappuccinos using the included steam wand attachment, for a supremely authentic taste that’s oh-so-delicious.

Sip with greater safety

Create your perfect cup of joe with greater peace of mind thanks to the built-in overheating and overpressure safety protection features, helping to protect the coffee-making unit from extreme heat and pressure.

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  jv on 13/12/2022 - 14:55

  Performance
  Frequency Range 50Hz

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    Smallman on 13/12/2022 - 15:02

    what to catch?

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      jv on 13/12/2022 - 15:14

      Power
      Input 220-240V
      Power Supply 1100W

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    zombie hunter on 13/12/2022 - 15:13

    +4

    60Hz coffee has better taste

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      jv on 13/12/2022 - 15:15

      +1

      Only if you like your coffee with greater frequency…

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    tunzafun001 on 13/12/2022 - 16:03

    +4

    Brilliant…it makes 50 coffee's a second!

    Shut up and take my money!

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  ASA on 13/12/2022 - 15:03

  +1

  I'm no expert but I think the consensus is that 15 Bar pressure produces foam AND bitter tasting coffee

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    NigelTufnel on 13/12/2022 - 15:15

    +1

    Well it's using pressurised baskets (which you should use a coarser grind for) to avoid bitterness, and which require higher pressure. But yes, ideally you'd want unpressurised basket and around 9 bars. But then you need a decent grinder to grind fine enough to get a decent extraction. This is aimed towards those buying pre-ground supermarket coffee, like the guy in the video.

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      tunzafun001 on 13/12/2022 - 16:07

      What's the physical difference with an unpressurised basket. Size of the holes?

      Just picked up a BES870 for nothing. Has no group handle. So need a group handle and basket. Any tips on where to get one. Basic entry level unpressurised basket and group handle. Cheers.

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        WatchNerd on 13/12/2022 - 16:25

        See Lifestyle Lab & Hoon's video here.

        Try Aliexpress.

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        NigelTufnel on 13/12/2022 - 16:28

        +1

        Pressurised baskets are double walled. One side has lots of holes, and the bottom has just one where the espresso is forced out of.

        Not familiar with the BES870 specifically, but I wouldn't recommend starting with bottomless portafilter unless you mind making a mess or want to spend a long time dialling in your shots.
        This says compatible with BES870XL. Not sure if that's the same. But you'd want something like that. Comes with unpressurised basket.

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        0jay on 13/12/2022 - 16:33

        +1

        Not a question of the size of the holes.

        Pressurized baskets on these machines have both limited coverage (the holes are restricted to a small area of the basket bottom itself) plus the basket is a two-part arrangement (actually more but two main parts) which gives you the basket bottom with limited coverage as described above that’s fitted inside a sleeve with a single hole which is what aerates the coffee and why you get that stupid foam that’s supposed to resemble crema.

        These work ok with unpressurised but it can take a bit of fiddling to get an ideal result and even at best it’s kind of ordinary. Ok but ordinary (and pretty small shots from a 50mm portafilter).

        Edit: Nigel’s onto it above

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    dasher86 on 13/12/2022 - 15:28

    8 bar…

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  jv on 13/12/2022 - 15:05

  +6

  A youtuber's review of the product https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwpH4m7C97Y

  He sounds clueless about making coffee…

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    NigelTufnel on 13/12/2022 - 15:08

    +4

    Right?! Not exactly James Hoffmann over here. I certainly wouldn't be buying an "expresso" machine based on his opinions.

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  Bunnyburger on 13/12/2022 - 15:34

  +2

  Please don't buy this. It's not worth the money and frustration

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  CrazyBargainCatcher on 13/12/2022 - 15:35

  This looks better for the price https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-espresso-coffee-machine-s…

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  abm77 on 13/12/2022 - 15:47

  +1

  I got one like this around 2 years ago. Use it around 5 times a day. Still running with no issues. Can make a decent cup of coffee if you don't mind manual. As a matter of fact I personally consider the fact that it's manual on the "pros" side rather then "cons", with some practice I can make a better tasting cup of coffee than with a fully-automatic $3000+ coffee machine I have at work. And it's not that hard to do.

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    tunzafun001 on 13/12/2022 - 16:13

    You cant make a good coffee with an auto..period. Auto's make 'ok' coffee well.

    No control over tamp, pucks are small diameter yet deep and its a pressurised filter system.

    Grind proper espresso fine, and you will need to clean the brew unit every time. Otherwise it clogs (as there is no back flush system). Which is more hassel than a manual.

    Im amazed no one has made a decent auto. Wouldnt take much tweaking.

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  DealsMonger on 13/12/2022 - 15:49

  +1

  This is Australian Version of Swan Retro Coffee sold in the UK https://www.techadvisor.com/article/723145/swan-retro-espres… , I make one coffee in the morning and its perfect for that . You can change to non pressurised portafilter if you want . Just need to buy a decent grinder which is a must for any coffee machine .

  But hey its $69.

  James Hoffman review of the machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM-XsaTBIc

  One more detailed review that convinced me to pull the plug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjjReAXzVPU

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    atymic on 13/12/2022 - 20:37

    Did you manage to find a non pressurised basket?

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      DealsMonger on 14/12/2022 - 14:21

      +1

      I am planning to buy one from Amazon , 51mm and try how it goes . Will update my experience here

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  tunzafun001 on 13/12/2022 - 16:16

  I need to buy a group handle and basket for a BES870. Cheaper to buy this than just a handle and basket. Unless im looking in the wrong places.

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    WatchNerd on 13/12/2022 - 16:43

    +3

    Never give up a Breville espresso machine for a Kogan. I've reported you to the mods.

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    iecc on 13/12/2022 - 19:43

    I had a very similar machine a few years ago from KMart - pretty sure the basket is 51mm and BES870 is 53mm. Commercial standard is 58mm.

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    0jay on 13/12/2022 - 20:00

    How many lobes does the Breville have?